Alright Boyz, Here We Go!!!! (OOTP 2007 Preview Thoughts...)
 

For those who have it, let's start posting!

First impression. Uh, holy CRAP. The sim speed is darn near Mogul-esque! I made a mistake and didn't send my manager on vacation, and had to manually go in the first time, but I'm guesssing that a season (including full HTML output and year-end save) is going to take less than 5 minutes. :eek:

Something is wrong with the title of this thread, but I just can't put my finger on it. How about a little help, boys...

:D

Ah. With full reporting, it does take a bit longer. The season itself will definitely take less than 5 minutes. Timing reports right now...

Fixed. ;)

(See lots of people coming to look...still running reports for the first time. I select everything, for a 16-team league with full 5-level minors. It is at 16 minutes and counting, and says it is 84% complete. I definitely won't want all the boxes and logs for my yearly reporting. For the next season, I'll check the time on just the ones I see myself actually using.)

How is the head-to-head working?



(kidding)

68-page PDF manual is included.

You must have this confused with OOTP 6.x

:D

Sorry for the delay there. WOOF Solevision was calling. I should have said it was a wrong number.


Definitely using full reports isn't feasible for SP, unless you play one season a night, then start up the reports before going to bed. I don't quite understand all it needs to do here, but it has been an hour and 20 minutes. I think it's doing each season's almanac. (It's now 2008.)

While we wait for the almanac. Here are the contents of off_field_injuries.txt. I presume we can just edit whatever we want into this.



//Format:
//type of injury, light injury (0 = doesn't matter, 1 = yes),minimum year (0 = does not matter),injury event
//type of injuries:
//throwing = 1,
//running = 2,
//collision = 3,
//fight = 4,
//illness = 5,
//undiscloded = 6
//Use undisclosed if you are unsure wether the expected injury is in the database

1,0,0,while throwing his alarm clock across the room,
1,0,0,while throwing a shoe out his window to stop a cat from caterwaling,
1,0,0,while playing fetch with his dog,
1,0,0,while throwing his dog a frisbee,
1,0,0,while playing frisbee in the park,
1,0,0,while skipping stones at a lake,
1,0,0,while throwing a glass at the wall after an argument with his wife,
1,0,0,while attempting to haul in a large fish,
1,0,0,while playing dodgeball with his teammates,
1,0,0,when he slept awkwardly,
1,0,0,throwing batting practice for a little league game,
1,0,1950,while playing football,
1,0,1950,while playing golf,
1,0,0,while working out,
1,0,0,while attempting to benchpress too much weight at the gym,
1,0,0,while angrily throwing his controller after losing a video baseball game,
1,0,0,while trying to win a prize by knocking all the bottles over at the county fair,
1,0,0,while bowling with his teammates,
1,0,0,when his fingers got stuck in the bowling ball,
1,0,0,while throwing a gutter ball bowling,
1,0,0,while lawn bowling at a family reunion,
1,0,0,while playing catch with his son,
2,0,1950,while playing basketball,
2,0,0,when he stepped awkwardly on a curb while running,
2,0,0,when he tripped over the curb,
2,0,0,when he heroically rescued neighbors from a house fire,
2,0,0,when he chased away a mugger,
2,0,0,falling down the stairs at his house,
2,0,1960,while slipping on an oil slick,
2,0,0,running away from the police,
2,0,0,when he fell down the stairs moving furniture into his new house,
2,0,0,when he slipped on a wet floor,
2,0,0,while working out,
2,0,0,while playing soccer with his son,
2,0,0,while running on his treadmill too fast,
2,0,0,while running through his neighborhhod to keep in shape,
2,0,0,while doing conditioning drills,
2,0,0,while racing his teammate during practice,
2,0,0,while slipping on wet grass at practice,
2,0,0,while playing hide and seek with his child,
2,0,0,while chasing his girlfriend on the beach,
2,0,0,while running up the stairs,
2,0,0,when he tripped running down the stairs,
2,0,0,while chasing his dog down the street,
3,0,1930,in a car accident,
3,0,1950,in a motorcycle accident,
3,0,2050,in a space-car accident,
3,0,1900,falling off a horse,
3,0,1930,when he collided with a parked car while being completely drunk,
3,0,0,while getting beaned during batting practice,
3,0,0,while getting beaned by a pitching machine,
3,0,0,while hangliding,
3,0,0,in a train accident,
3,0,0,when his car was struck by a train,
3,0,1950,when he ran into a deer on the expressway,
3,0,1950,when his car hit a deer late at night,
3,0,0,when his car spun out of control,
3,0,0,while taping a late night television show,
3,0,0,while kicking his locker after an argument with his manager,
3,0,1980,while showing off on his motorcycle,
3,0,1980,when he attempted to do a wheelie on his motorcycle,
3,0,1980,when he tried to stand up on his motorcycle while riding,
3,0,1950,when he fell asleep at the wheel,
3,0,1980,when he did one too many BMX bike tricks,
3,0,0,while slamming into a car stopped at a red light,
3,0,1950,when he fell off a bull at a rodeo,
3,0,1985,while falling off his mountain bike,
3,0,0,while falling down a ravine when hiking,
3,0,0,while giving a fist bump to his teammate,
3,0,0,while getting hit with a golf ball,
3,0,1960,while falling off a golf cart,
3,0,1950,when he fell off the back of a pickup truck,
3,0,1985,while falling off an ATV,
3,0,0,while falling out of bed after having a nightmare,
3,0,0,when he fell down the stairs while sleepwalking,
3,0,0,while racing his teammate on the highway,
3,0,0,while shaking hands during a meet and greet,
3,0,0,while attempting but missing a high-five with a teammate,
3,0,0,while sliding on the tarp during the rain at practice,
3,0,0,after his kid ran into him with his bike,
3,0,1950,when he fell down inline skating,
3,0,1950,when he fell off his scooter,
3,0,1950,when his kid ran into him with a scooter,
3,0,0,while helping an old lady cross the street,
3,0,0,while changing a tire on the side of the road,
3,0,0,while changing a flat tire,
3,0,0,while falling out of his son's treehouse,
3,0,0,while falling off his roof,
3,0,0,while falling off a ladder,
3,0,0,while trying to get his child out into the car seat,
3,0,0,after getting run into by a shopping cart pushed by unruly children,
3,0,0,after walking into a tree while talking on his cell phone,
3,0,0,after his dog suddenly took off running while he was walking him on a leash,
3,0,0,while falling off the stage at an Awards Ceremony,
3,0,0,while falling off his tractor,
3,0,0,when his car went into a ditch,
3,0,0,when he fell asleep at the wheel,
3,0,0,when he was hit from behind while at a traffic signal,
3,0,0,when his car skidded off the road due to poor weather conditions,
3,0,0,when his son jumped on him from a couch while he was lying on the floor,
4.0,0,when he was in a bar fight with a drunken patron,
4,0,0,while saving a woman from being attacked by a mugger,
4,0,0,after getting in a fight during a poker game,
4,0,0,while getting in a fight with his Father-In-Law,
4,0,0,while getting in a fight with the neighbor,
4,0,0,while getting in a fight with his son's Little League coach,
4,0,0,when he got into a fight with another parent at a Little League game,
4,0,0,when he was robbed and mugged after his house was broken into during the middle of the night,
4,0,0,when he was the victim of a shark attack,
4,0,0,when he was attacked by a wild animal during a trip to the zoo,
4,0,0,while experiencing road rage after a car accident and getting into a fight,
4,0,0,when his girlfriend beat him up,
4,0,0,when his wife hit him with a frying pan during an argument,
4,0,0,when he got into a fight with the bouncer at a local club,
4,0,0,after he got drunk and started trouble at the bar,
4,0,0,when he got jumped walking down the street,
4,0,0,when he was robbed at gunpoint,
4,0,0,when he got into a fight with the media over a story that was released about him in the local newspaper,
4,0,1960,when he got into a fight with a news reporter over a television interview,
4,0,0,when he reacted violently after he got tired of answering the same questions from multiple reporters,
4,0,1950,after getting mugged on a subway,
6,0,1950,while attempting to close his garage door that was stuck,
6,0,1950,while attempting to fix his car,
6,0,0,while helping a friend move,
6,1,0,when he slipped in the bathtub,
6,0,0,when he was stung by a bee and went into anaphylactic shock,
6,0,0,while making repairs to his house,
6,0,0,while doing some gardening work in the yard,
6,0,0,while landing awkwardly when he celebrated his best friend getting married,
6,0,0,while not paying attention when chopping onions,
6,0,0,while landscaping his yard,
6,0,0,while pinching a nerve in his neck after sleeping awkwardy,
6,0,0,while cracking his molar on a sesame seed roll,
6,1,0,when he missed the team flight,
6,0,0,while attempting to tear a phonebook in half,
6,0,0,while cutting a brownie out of a pan,
6,0,0,after a hot iron fell on him,
6,0,0,after being bit by a rabid dog,
6,0,0,after being bit by a coyote,
6,0,0,after being bit by a poisonous snake,
6,0,0,after being kicked by a horse,
6,0,0,after being gored by a bull,
6,0,0,after being scratched by a cat,
6,0,0,while awkawrdly picking up his child,
6,0,0,while setting off fireworks in his backyard,
6,0,0,while doing work on his farm,
6,0,1985,while getting severely burned after he fell asleep in a tanning bed,
6,0,0,while arm wrestling at a local bar,
6,0,0,while punching a wall during a fight with his girlfriend,
6,0,0,while punching a wall during a fight with his wife,
6,1,0,while opening a package with a swiss army knife,
6,0,1999,when he decided to party excessively,

WOOF Solevision just got me, too. I now officially hate JC Cox.


Meanwhile, I'm hitting a snag in getting any of the real databases to work, so I'm going to start my first test with fictional players, but I should be able to still see what type of players lead the league in triples and such.

What better, getting injured skipping stones at a lake or throwing dog a frisbee?

Well this gives me something to look forward to as we get into March...

Hmmm. My problem may have been the database after all. I'm trying another database now, and it seems to be importing correctly. So, I'll start a real player career test starting in 2005 in a few minutes if this continues to progress well.

Edited to add: It's importing very slowly because I'm using the option to have every guy from the past 100 plus years added into the game with their career stats which seems like it will be a great option to provide a real history for a current day league.

OK. Headed to bed right now. It's January 1st, 2009. We'll see how far it sims by the morning, with limited (like I'd really want to have) reporting turned on. I'll start the sim the moment I post this reply. It's set to run through 2209. It won't get that far, I'm sure. ;)

That's what Rip Van Winkle said...

:D

FWIW, it definitely seems to be the database that was the problem. Perhaps, I had a corrupted download (I was using the same one that the the guy doing the big blogs was using and I tried re-downloading several times.) I'm now using the Gambo database and it is humming along importing a ton of history. Already at 50% after 11 minutes which seems good for the tradeoff of all of that history.

Complete game universe with MLB and all minor leagues set up in under 30 minutes using the Gambo Database. No winter leagues or Asian leagues in this test. About 10-15 minutes of that time was letting the game use Facegen to create pictures for every single player. Just set up the Almanac to be somewhat selective in the number of HTML reports that are done. About to start simming seasons now (after putting my GM in vacation mode so the AI will run everything.)

Dola -

The History is working perfectly with the import option. Looking at the Phillies, I can quickly with a glance on one page see a history of who started for the majority of the year at each position. Looking at 1980, I can then click on Schmidt and pull up his record (with a fictional facegen pic) and see all of his current ratings (all 1's) as well as his career stats.

I now have stats of EVERY player who ever played on the Major League Level that I can quickly view the index. The 30 minute setup is definitely worth it for this. Now, to sim a few years and see if I see any odd trades/releases, etc.

I don't know if you want huge pics of the output of this in this thread, so I'm going to put Schmidt's example in the mini-dynasty thread that I was planning on starting.

:)

I wont get to my preview til Sunday

After the weekend, I'll be doing some 6.5 conversions and simming ahead a bit. Glad the ghost player option is back, because 2006 created 1000 new players when importing. I'll really be digging into the conversion stats and more since that was a big issue last version.

Dola- I have no idea whether I won in WOOF, but I know I scored less than 20 points.

An entire calendar year was just simmed in 10 minutes.


For the question about triples:

Rafael Furcal led the league in triples in 2005 with 16. He has a 63 in gap power, 94 speed, and 95 baserunning instincts.

Jose Reyes was 2nd with 14. He has 66 gap power, 100 speed, and 76 base running instincts.

Michael Tucker was 3rd with 12. He has 66 gap power, 68 speed, and 67 base running.


5 or 6 guys tied with 8.


The Leader Screen is really nicely organized and allows for easy viewing of leaders in a wide variety of categories. Manny led the league with 53 homers in 05. Pujols led the league with a .373 batting average.

The only stat that looks somewhat surprising is that Mussina had 29 wins for the Yankees with a 29-2 record and a 2.82 ERA.


I'm going to eventually set this to run all night when I go to bed in an hour or two.

Man, I got dissed. I wonder who torqued-off not to get a preview copy?

You lost 81-19.

:D

Yeah, same hear. And not to sound like a whiner.....But, to be honest even though I am really liking the sound of this year's game, have been faithfully reading all the TRTR articles and was totally disappointed by last year if it turns out some people on the board were given given the preview code versions without even preordering I might just keep my money my pocket. I have no problem that they give more people a chance to test the game and to be honest they sound be doing an open beta for the last week or two after last year. The problem is the arbitrary slection of people.

Should these reviews of previews be posted?

The email that I received, said that I could post whatever I wanted wherever I wanted regarding the preview version, but if there was a serious problem to let the development team know. They apparently feel comfortable with their game and want us to post about it. Knowing that I and Skydog and whoever else have it here aren't censored in any way is only going to add to the validity of whatever we have to say. So far, I've been impressed with what I've seen. However, my almanac is also taking a very long time to populate. I think because of the many years of history that have to be converted.

Just got everything installed. I'll start up a fictional league with full reporting and see how far I get by midday tomorrow. I'll post some thoughts from that perspective.

Did you PM me? I didnt refuse anyone who PM'ed me (not even jb)

Yours arrived 3 hours after I'd already said no more entries. I'm kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place

Building all the history pages takes a LOT of time. So I suggest unchecking this. In reality, this is only needed for online leagues once a season I guess, so you can let it run over night. When playing the game and browsing the history, those pages are generated on the fly :)

I basically told Marc that I wasn;t going to lie that I wouldn't mind a trial version, and that I was someone (one among a lot) who didn't think much of OOTP2006. I havent pre-ordered yet either, but I'm someone who buys every text game no matter what. Of course, I also was a commish in an online league that ended last year so I probably had that going for me.

But it seems like you are upset because you weren't picked on something that was relatively at random but open to all? It wasn't like it was offered to everyone on the board. There were minimal requirements that were set and to be honest I was actually surprised I was selected. Pleased none the less however (No offense to Marc but I had been hoping for the Mega millions lotto as my lucky pick, but hey. :) 277 million dollars is a lot of cash)

OOTP 2007 needs some files from the lahman database now that weren't required before. If you used an old custom database, then these files are missing (allstar,awardsplayer,halloffame,seriespost).

Good info. I'll turn off the reports and sleep a bit longer. It's only at 2017 at the moment.

OK. It is 06/02/2018. Re-starting the sim from there......NOW

I see that you're still here. Anything else I should know before I head back to bed?

It just hit 06/02/2019. Not even five minutes. :D

BAck to bed...See y'all around 5:30 or so...

Not really... Sleep well :)

PS: Turning off boxscores & game logs speeds simming up.

We're going to make the history stuff automatically turned off by default, this should help clear things up./

Couldn't really sleep well. Up almost exactly one hour later. It's 8/31/32. 18 seasons per hour. VERY nice.

OK. Now for the BIG question for me: the interface. Markus, I see you're still here, so I'll ask, or, you can turn your IM on, so as not to clutter up this thread with a bunch of n00b questions. ;)

BIG QUESTION: Is there a screen where I can see, say, every catcher in my organization? Ideally, a place where I can see star ratings, current and potential in con/pwr/eye, fielding ratings, handedness, and age. In a perfect world, I could use this screen to assign my catchers to the levels in the organization that I want them.

I'm online on MSN. And yes, I'll tell you how to get this.

...and generated very, very quickly on the fly, I must admit. 25 seasons in, and the pages come up in a reasonable amount of time.

First impression from looking at the history is that dynasties do exist. Granted, this is only a 16-team league, but the repeat customers in the championship games are obvious. The sim is running on the other computer, so I'll copy and paste in the next post.

25 seasons...

SION Home | FBL | Scores | Standings | Stats | Teams | Players | Transactions | History

History Home | Players | Teams | Managers | Leagues | Leaderboards | Awards | Accomplishments Fictional Baseball League History Index AUS | CLE | COL | DET | LB | MES | NO | PHO | POR | SAC | SA | SEA | SEA | TAC | VB | WAS Players: A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z Lg LgAvg LgERA Champion Year Champion LgERA LgAvg Lg SL1 .256 4.04 Washington Sixshooters 2007 New Orleans Battle Cats 4.56 .269 SL2 SL1 .253 3.97 Phoenix Barons 2008 Cleveland Manta Rays 4.46 .262 SL2 SL1 .255 4.13 Virginia Beach Caps 2009 Austin Speedsters 4.51 .267 SL2 SL1 .247 3.98 Phoenix Barons 2010 Cleveland Manta Rays 4.12 .255 SL2 SL1 .247 3.97 Washington Sixshooters 2011 Tacoma Spectres 4.13 .256 SL2 SL1 .240 3.77 Detroit Tsunami 2012 Seattle Rodents 4.16 .257 SL2 SL1 .248 4.01 Sacramento Tyrannosaurs 2013 Seattle Rodents 4.22 .260 SL2 SL1 .251 4.18 Sacramento Tyrannosaurs 2014 Long Beach Sirens 4.19 .263 SL2 SL1 .253 4.12 Phoenix Barons 2015 Seattle Pipers 4.39 .263 SL2 SL1 .255 4.15 Sacramento Tyrannosaurs 2016 Seattle Rodents 4.30 .260 SL2 SL1 .254 4.14 Phoenix Barons 2017 Seattle Pipers 4.15 .255 SL2 SL1 .251 4.08 Portland Boomers 2018 Long Beach Sirens 3.94 .255 SL2 SL1 .251 4.14 Portland Boomers 2019 Seattle Pipers 4.07 .258 SL2 SL1 .249 4.03 Detroit Tsunami 2020 Tacoma Spectres 4.00 .256 SL2 SL1 .255 4.07 Sacramento Tyrannosaurs 2021 Tacoma Spectres 4.11 .261 SL2 SL1 .258 4.14 Portland Boomers 2022 Columbus Blizzard 4.17 .261 SL2 SL1 .259 4.17 Portland Boomers 2023 Tacoma Spectres 4.17 .258 SL2 SL1 .255 4.14 Sacramento Tyrannosaurs 2024 Tacoma Spectres 4.43 .265 SL2 SL1 .253 4.04 Mesa Sidewinders 2025 Seattle Rodents 4.01 .255 SL2 SL1 .259 4.19 Detroit Tsunami 2026 Cleveland Manta Rays 4.07 .248 SL2 SL1 .261 4.19 Sacramento Tyrannosaurs 2027 Cleveland Manta Rays 3.93 .246 SL2 SL1 .256 4.08 Sacramento Tyrannosaurs 2028 Cleveland Manta Rays 4.00 .249 SL2 SL1 .255 4.07 Mesa Sidewinders 2029 Cleveland Manta Rays 4.21 .255 SL2 SL1 .259 4.20 Portland Boomers 2030 Cleveland Manta Rays 4.16 .255 SL2 SL1 .264 4.36 Washington Sixshooters 2031 New Orleans Battle Cats 4.04 .247 SL2 SL1 .260 4.25 Virginia Beach Caps 2032 Seattle Rodents 4.00 .247 SL2 SL1 .000 0.00 2033 0.00 .000 SL2 Bold indicates World Championship Champion

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Saturday, March 3rd, 2007 - OOTP 2.0.0.23

Good to see you are liking it Skydog, and agree about the speed, it's vastly improved from 2006. About the reports, as Markus said, there is no need of having them ON as the game itself has all the history and stats so it's not like in the past that we needed to build the almanac to watch the history. The html reports are only needed for online leagues now.

Btw MrBug, now that you have the game too, we can comment it by AIM, i hated to not to be able to openly talk with you before :)

Well, I haven't said I like it or dislike it yet. I like what I've seen so far about the sim speed and the almanac. It's too early to make that sort of verdict. Markus just answered two key questions for me. I'm going to check out a couple of things, and be back to give more impressions...

You can create and save a custom view + filters in the roster screen to look exactly what you asked for: