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Passacaglia 08-06-2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 1802201)
DING DING DING, this makes far more sense.


Then this game is broken, and we should give up now.

RendeR 08-06-2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1802200)
So you guys think the Minotaur can sit in the center and kill us all off so that we can't ever reach the center? And he can only be killed by wolves -- the people who don't want us to win? I don't see them doing that for us!



Obviously not, it makes far more sense that he MUST move around the Labyrinth.

PackerFanatic 08-06-2008 11:18 AM

Plus - we don't know that the minotaur just sits there. He/she is one of us - so they can move around just like we can, I would imagine.

RendeR 08-06-2008 11:18 AM

You're being really argumentative today, have you not had your Coffee?

mccollins 08-06-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1802200)
So you guys think the Minotaur can sit in the center and kill us all off so that we can't ever reach the center? And he can only be killed by wolves -- the people who don't want us to win? I don't see them doing that for us!


I think the Minotaur would get bored and bloodthirsty and start looking around for something to kill.

Passacaglia 08-06-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 1802205)
Obviously not, it makes far more sense that he MUST move around the Labyrinth.


That seems like a cheesy game mechanic. Can he move from the center to one spot out, then back in again? What makes more sense to me is that he has a different win condition that makes him WANT to move around.

Passacaglia 08-06-2008 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 1802208)
You're being really argumentative today, have you not had your Coffee?


Actually, I haven't had coffee today -- I did the last two days, and try not to have it too often. It just seems like people are implying what I said earlier, that the minotaur can just sit there in the center and kill everyone (although, the rules just say a "strong chance" we die immediately). I don't think I'm being more argumentative than anyone else, though -- for God's sake, I was accused of being a Dinosaur Alchemist, then told there was no such thing! :p

Abe Sargent 08-06-2008 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn (Post 1802049)
Alchemists can't be anything other than humans. I've never heard of a dinosaur alchemist.

So your reveal was a load of crap.


Just playing catch up here, and perhaps others will say this later, but this is flawed logic. I've seen many roles among non humans, and non-humanoids.

mccollins 08-06-2008 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1802210)
That seems like a cheesy game mechanic. Can he move from the center to one spot out, then back in again? What makes more sense to me is that he has a different win condition that makes him WANT to move around.


That sounds logical - maybe the minotaur only wins if he kills all of his Ancient/wolf masters and no commoners escape the labyrinth? That way, if we assume the Ancients won't look for him then the minotaur has to look for them.

I dunno, I'm just making some logical guesses. That'd be a pretty hard win condition for that person though.

Passacaglia 08-06-2008 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mccollins (Post 1802209)
I think the Minotaur would get bored and bloodthirsty and start looking around for something to kill.


Maybe. Like I said earlier, my guess is that he has a different victory condition. And personally, since only wolves can kill him, that probably means he wants to help us in a way (when he's not killing us).

path12 08-06-2008 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 1802166)
I think I make more
logical sense when haiku
is how I speak, u?



Why, yes, I do agree
Your spelling is better too
You should keep it up

Passacaglia 08-06-2008 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mccollins (Post 1802215)
That sounds logical - maybe the minotaur only wins if he kills all of his Ancient/wolf masters and no commoners escape the labyrinth? That way, if we assume the Ancients won't look for him then the minotaur has to look for them.

I dunno, I'm just making some logical guesses. That'd be a pretty hard win condition for that person though.


I dunno about killing the wolves -- that seems to leave a lot of his win condition to chance (whatever the chance is that he kills a wolf if he comes across it).

What does it mean to escape the labyrinth? RendeR mentioned something about that, too.

path12 08-06-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1802200)
So you guys think the Minotaur can sit in the center and kill us all off so that we can't ever reach the center? And he can only be killed by wolves -- the people who don't want us to win? I don't see them doing that for us!


I didn't notice in the rules, but it would make sense to me that we could either find some sort of object or one of us has the ability to fight/kill the minotaur.

claphamsa 08-06-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1802200)
So you guys think the Minotaur can sit in the center and kill us all off so that we can't ever reach the center? And he can only be killed by wolves -- the people who don't want us to win? I don't see them doing that for us!


I agree with this
the minotaur must need move
for some reason, K?

Abe Sargent 08-06-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mccollins (Post 1802178)
I'll say this - if the Minotaur is at the center, I'm not sure that's where people should go. Except the wolves since they're the only ones with a chance to kill him. And if you die in the process, we don't care.


Yesterday the Minotaur moved.

Passacaglia 08-06-2008 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent (Post 1802226)
Yesterday the Minotaur moved.


Wow. Let's all stop bickering about this and listen to Abe!

path12 08-06-2008 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent (Post 1802226)
Yesterday the Minotaur moved.


Do tell.

mccollins 08-06-2008 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent (Post 1802226)
Yesterday the Minotaur moved.


Cool, I must've missed that. How do you know?

Abe Sargent 08-06-2008 11:29 AM

Cause the Gm told us he did

mccollins 08-06-2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1802221)
I dunno about killing the wolves -- that seems to leave a lot of his win condition to chance (whatever the chance is that he kills a wolf if he comes across it).

What does it mean to escape the labyrinth? RendeR mentioned something about that, too.


1) Yeah, that's why I kind of gave up with my guesses there :/

2) From the rules:
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If a commoner finds the center of the labyrinth, the game ends and the commoners win.
Only one has to find the center and then we all win. It doesn't work like an 'escape hatch' or anything.

PackerFanatic 08-06-2008 11:31 AM

Haha - and Abe silences the crowd!

claphamsa 08-06-2008 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent (Post 1802226)
Yesterday the Minotaur moved.


hwo do you know? wolf?
or are you the minotaur
how else would you know?

Abe Sargent 08-06-2008 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 1800894)
Dark clouds begin to spread across the sky. In the distance there is a furious rumble that you know was not thunder. The Minotaur has begun to move.


See? From yesterday.

Passacaglia 08-06-2008 11:33 AM

I don't see where the GM told us the Minotaur moved.

mccollins 08-06-2008 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 1800894)
Dark clouds begin to spread across the sky. In the distance there is a furious rumble that you know was not thunder. The Minotaur has begun to move.


This is at 1:06PM yesterday. Perhaps it's when the player-minotaur PM'ed their move request.

Passacaglia 08-06-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mccollins (Post 1802243)
This is at 1:06PM yesterday. Perhaps it's when the player-minotaur PM'ed their move request.


Yeah, it just hit me, too, that we might be talking mid-day, not end of day.

Abe Sargent 08-06-2008 11:35 AM

I guess we see how many people read the GM's posts around here.

claphamsa 08-06-2008 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1802219)
Why, yes, I do agree
Your spelling is better too
You should keep it up



I wrote an email
to my boss as a haiku
I had to rewrite

Passacaglia 08-06-2008 11:37 AM

So I guess that means he didn't move at 10PM? He could have had some other action that he could perform then instead of moving.

PackerFanatic 08-06-2008 11:37 AM

Or it's not always announced like that.

PurdueBrad 08-06-2008 11:38 AM

Hey guys, I'm back but I'll be bouncing on and off some. Thanks for the good wishes, I'm hoping this medication goes better. For all of them, the first dose did wonders, it was the second two weeks later that crushed me so in two weeks when I take the next, I'll know. Was nervous going in though.

Abe Sargent 08-06-2008 11:39 AM

Feel better PB

mccollins 08-06-2008 11:40 AM

Yeah, there's some dramatic flair on that one and it was the first movement of the game (well, at least our 3pm move yesterday was our first).

Abe Sargent 08-06-2008 11:40 AM

I first learned about Crohn's about six years ago when David Garrard was diagnosed with it. Now I know a lot about it because I've read all of those articles that talk about it. Wish you well my friend, wish you well.

PurdueBrad 08-06-2008 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent (Post 1802259)
I first learned about Crohn's about six years ago when David Garrard was diagnosed with it. Now I know a lot about it because I've read all of those articles that talk about it. Wish you well my friend, wish you well.


TY Abe. I'm actually doing pretty well now but they want to get me off of the steroids that have stabilized me (been on for about a year and a half and it has done wonders for turning my figure into the shape of a pear!). As for Garrard, it's silly but I always have carried him on my fantasy team because of it.

DaddyTorgo 08-06-2008 12:02 PM

meh - i have to figure out a move - hmmm

ntndeacon 08-06-2008 12:04 PM

I wonder if though the minotaur can obviously move, that if he will stay in proximity to the center. I would guess that he would lose if the commoners win. kinda like a 3rd team of one maybe.

PurdueBrad 08-06-2008 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 1802289)
I wonder if though the minotaur can obviously move, that if he will stay in proximity to the center. I would guess that he would lose if the commoners win. kinda like a 3rd team of one maybe.


Yeah, I'm looking at it as though we're facing two separate teams of wolves. The problem is that we can't kill one of them but maybe a wolf will stumble on him for us. Although if I were a wolf, I would consider not moving, cherry pick through night kills and let the minotaur get us in the labyrinth.

claphamsa 08-06-2008 12:41 PM

wow, no one says boo
while im at my staff meeting
good for catching up

Passacaglia 08-06-2008 12:43 PM

I said boo when people voted for me, but I just didn't type it out.

The Jackal 08-06-2008 12:52 PM

The Jester's voice booms over you, as if on a megaphone:

"Attention please. Anyone that thinks they can just sit around and drink a martini - I'll kill you."

He doesn't laugh this time, and the voice fades out.

PurdueBrad 08-06-2008 12:55 PM

Nobody told me we could order drinks!

claphamsa 08-06-2008 12:56 PM

Yeah, no shit. BK
Ill take a margarita
none of that gross salt

Passacaglia 08-06-2008 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad (Post 1802348)
Nobody told me we could order drinks!


Me neither. I'm glad I didn't order one, though -- I would have wanted to sit and drink it.

Tyrith 08-06-2008 01:01 PM

Well, I think that makes it pretty clear we need to go lynching.

mccollins 08-06-2008 01:02 PM

I'm patiently waiting for the 3pm physical moves before continuing to contemplate any game moves (like voting).

Passacaglia 08-06-2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith (Post 1802360)
Well, I think that makes it pretty clear we need to go lynching.


I thought it had to do with moving around the Labyrinth.

mccollins 08-06-2008 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1802364)
I thought it had to do with moving around the Labyrinth.

Ah, perhaps a hint/reminder to send in physical move requests.

RendeR 08-06-2008 01:05 PM

"Why so Serious?"

PackerFanatic 08-06-2008 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mccollins (Post 1802361)
I'm patiently waiting for the 3pm physical moves before continuing to contemplate any game moves (like voting).


Ditto on that front.


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