Meetings in the Labyrinth, next on HBO!

that is mainly because I was out all day yesterday. However the good news is that I can now speak intellegently on The Dark Knight.

it seems to me that
every game we ignore the quiet
ones and they are wolves

UTR works well
I wish I could do it ::sigh::
but I love haiku

Regarding ntn, granted it's always better to lynch a wolf, but if we have no clue a low poster is always good because it is SO much harder to figure out they are a wolf later with not much from them to go on.

It sounds odd, but on day 1 (which today feels like again), I'd almost rather lynch a quiet villager who might be a wolf (since we have nothing to go on) than a vocal person who happens to be a wolf (since they might trip themselves up later).

Again, it's obviously always better to lynch a wolf.

Good excuse to be gone :-D

It is good you live
do you have any thoughts about
last nights deadline tie?

well of course it is better to lynch a wolf.

I don't mind clap's haikus or RendeR's quotes, but...quoted for truth now. ;)

the sky is falling
I agree with mcollins
who do you propose

well Jackal's laughing reply to us seems to indicate we need more than 5 to lynch someone. So my first thought is to the 50%+1...I am hopeful it is just a tie thing though.

I am livening
up the game and this seems to
help my typing skills

Yeah, but my statement is something a wolf would twist to say: "You'd rather lynch a villager ?? :confused: ZOMG!" So I felt the need to emphasize. ;)

someone walked past
my office and offered me
a calculator

apparently I
should not count on my fingers
haiku sylables

Well, ntn has doubled his post count now and Path/KWhit made credible excuses. Abe is next.

I also think that though Pass is suspicious for being an Alchemist who can't do anything today. We probably should look elsewhere.

Concurred whole-heartedly. However, I would say today is far from Day 1 because we at least have a point of controversy to go over. Random votes today would be frowned upon, I would say, especially since we should probably get nine votes on someone. If it comes to ntn, though, I'd be cool with that.

five-seven-five, bud
I enjoy me some haiku
too. never tried here.

Did I miss a post about Pass being a dinosaur? How did Farrah know that?

But if we're voting for a person just to make sure it's not random, we lose a lot of info -- people get to hide behind bad votes, saying "Well I just wanted to make sure someone got lynched." In cases like that, No Lynch might be preferred. Especially since we don't need to kill wolves to win the game.

The dinosaur was an example. Pass quoted from the rules that it was valid to be a type of human and I did not recall that last night.

I don't think I'm a dinosaur. I'm guessing I'm human, but not sure.

I have a hard time believing that this game is setup in such a way where we can just no lynch the entire game and win. My guess is there is an element of be killing wolves or they be killing you involved here.

I did not count wrong
haiku is my schtick get your
own you lazy bum

I'm pretty sure Jackal would have told you that you were a dinosaur alchemist or a mouse alchemist or whatever non-human type alchemist you were. IF you really were an alchemist at all. I doubt it would have been left up to you to assume.

So I stand by my earlier assertion that your reveal last night was crap. Crap is such a harsh word....diversion? Whatever you want to call it, I don't think you're what you say you are.

vote Passacaglia

I am sure the wolves
will manage to kill someone
sooner or later

bodyguard can only
block so many different
attacks from the wolves

farrah what is he
diverting from? do you think
he is saving rendeR?

Exactly. I'm not trying to use the argument I said would be used against me, but, yeah, letting wolves live is never good for our health.

I don't think it's as simple as "no lynch all the way and we win" -- we still have to FIND the center. But lets think about this -- usually more villagers get lynched than wolves, right? Even in games the villagers win, they usually get more villagers than wolves, but it's not a big deal, because they get the wolves before it's too late. But here, each villager is a chance to get to the center, and killing wolves isn't even part of our win condition.

I think I make more
logical sense when haiku
is how I speak, u?

I agree that he probably would have told me that I was something OTHER than human. Since he didn't, that's why I am assuming I'm human -- even though it wasn't specifically stated. I don't understand what the problem is.

while jackyls ruels are
vague, I think killing wolves is
a good thing to do

Not sure. When Pass made his announcement the vote was 4-4 Pass-RendeR. Then Pass admitted and ran, but not before changing his vote to RendeR.

I don't know enough yet to assume they're working together, I just don't think Pass is presenting himself as who he really is.

Do we know for sure there was a bodyguard block last night?

What if the "commotion" / "fight" that some people (so far: RendeR and PackerFanatic) heard was you getting in the face by the log trap?

I still think it is kind of logical for the wolves to not have been close enough to attack anyone since after the 10 pm movement 2 people got within 1 'space' of another person. That's all assumption on my part though.

My thoughts too. We can't just assume they won't find us if we don't attempt to find them first. And we have the minotaur to deal with too, if and when we get to the center.

back later. I'm late for the 9am meeting.

I agree, but I think we need to be more careful about it, and not vote for someone because "we need a lynch" (which happens a lot), when, IMO, a poor lynch hurts us more than in other games.

I agree pass's
reveal was very wierd
but i do not see

what it could hope to
accomplish this early in
the game, no vote pass

I'll say this - if the Minotaur is at the center, I'm not sure that's where people should go. Except the wolves since they're the only ones with a chance to kill him. And if you die in the process, we don't care.

this is possible
but I can assure you pain
makes me squeel loud

My guess is that if the Minotaur stays in the center, then if a commoner runs into him, he's still reached the center, so we win right away, before any battle could occur.

what incentive do
the wolves have to attcak the
minotaur, we do


not have any rules on
win conditions for wolves
jackyl, any answers?

I doubt that a commoner coming up to the center would actually "get there" if the minotaur is there.

Morning all. Let me get caught up and see what is happening.

I would think the exact opposite. You meet the Minotaur, you die. (Unless you're an Ancient/wolf and then you fight.)

I'm not sure they'll know it's the minotaur when they attack it? Or did Jackal say that only all the rest of us look alike to one another?

they have to kill all
except for the minotaur
any more questions?

So you guys think the Minotaur can sit in the center and kill us all off so that we can't ever reach the center? And he can only be killed by wolves -- the people who don't want us to win? I don't see them doing that for us!

DING DING DING, this makes far more sense.

My thinking as well. At least, if the Minotaur can move around, the wolves might be FORCED to fight it. But if he just sits in the center preventing us from ever winning, I'd imagine the wolves would just stand pat where they are.

But no one knows where the center is, so if they happen to stumble upon it, they fight whether they want to or not. That is my feeling on it.

Then this game is broken, and we should give up now.

Obviously not, it makes far more sense that he MUST move around the Labyrinth.

Plus - we don't know that the minotaur just sits there. He/she is one of us - so they can move around just like we can, I would imagine.

You're being really argumentative today, have you not had your Coffee?

I think the Minotaur would get bored and bloodthirsty and start looking around for something to kill.

That seems like a cheesy game mechanic. Can he move from the center to one spot out, then back in again? What makes more sense to me is that he has a different win condition that makes him WANT to move around.

Actually, I haven't had coffee today -- I did the last two days, and try not to have it too often. It just seems like people are implying what I said earlier, that the minotaur can just sit there in the center and kill everyone (although, the rules just say a "strong chance" we die immediately). I don't think I'm being more argumentative than anyone else, though -- for God's sake, I was accused of being a Dinosaur Alchemist, then told there was no such thing! :p

Just playing catch up here, and perhaps others will say this later, but this is flawed logic. I've seen many roles among non humans, and non-humanoids.

That sounds logical - maybe the minotaur only wins if he kills all of his Ancient/wolf masters and no commoners escape the labyrinth? That way, if we assume the Ancients won't look for him then the minotaur has to look for them.

I dunno, I'm just making some logical guesses. That'd be a pretty hard win condition for that person though.

Maybe. Like I said earlier, my guess is that he has a different victory condition. And personally, since only wolves can kill him, that probably means he wants to help us in a way (when he's not killing us).

Why, yes, I do agree
Your spelling is better too
You should keep it up

I dunno about killing the wolves -- that seems to leave a lot of his win condition to chance (whatever the chance is that he kills a wolf if he comes across it).

What does it mean to escape the labyrinth? RendeR mentioned something about that, too.

I didn't notice in the rules, but it would make sense to me that we could either find some sort of object or one of us has the ability to fight/kill the minotaur.

I agree with this
the minotaur must need move
for some reason, K?

Yesterday the Minotaur moved.

Wow. Let's all stop bickering about this and listen to Abe!

Do tell.

Cool, I must've missed that. How do you know?

Cause the Gm told us he did

1) Yeah, that's why I kind of gave up with my guesses there :/

2) From the rules:
Only one has to find the center and then we all win. It doesn't work like an 'escape hatch' or anything.

Haha - and Abe silences the crowd!

hwo do you know? wolf?
or are you the minotaur
how else would you know?

See? From yesterday.

I don't see where the GM told us the Minotaur moved.

This is at 1:06PM yesterday. Perhaps it's when the player-minotaur PM'ed their move request.

Yeah, it just hit me, too, that we might be talking mid-day, not end of day.

I guess we see how many people read the GM's posts around here.

I wrote an email
to my boss as a haiku
I had to rewrite

So I guess that means he didn't move at 10PM? He could have had some other action that he could perform then instead of moving.

Or it's not always announced like that.

Hey guys, I'm back but I'll be bouncing on and off some. Thanks for the good wishes, I'm hoping this medication goes better. For all of them, the first dose did wonders, it was the second two weeks later that crushed me so in two weeks when I take the next, I'll know. Was nervous going in though.

Feel better PB

Yeah, there's some dramatic flair on that one and it was the first movement of the game (well, at least our 3pm move yesterday was our first).

I first learned about Crohn's about six years ago when David Garrard was diagnosed with it. Now I know a lot about it because I've read all of those articles that talk about it. Wish you well my friend, wish you well.

TY Abe. I'm actually doing pretty well now but they want to get me off of the steroids that have stabilized me (been on for about a year and a half and it has done wonders for turning my figure into the shape of a pear!). As for Garrard, it's silly but I always have carried him on my fantasy team because of it.

meh - i have to figure out a move - hmmm

I wonder if though the minotaur can obviously move, that if he will stay in proximity to the center. I would guess that he would lose if the commoners win. kinda like a 3rd team of one maybe.

Yeah, I'm looking at it as though we're facing two separate teams of wolves. The problem is that we can't kill one of them but maybe a wolf will stumble on him for us. Although if I were a wolf, I would consider not moving, cherry pick through night kills and let the minotaur get us in the labyrinth.

wow, no one says boo
while im at my staff meeting
good for catching up

I said boo when people voted for me, but I just didn't type it out.

Nobody told me we could order drinks!

Yeah, no shit. BK
Ill take a margarita
none of that gross salt

Me neither. I'm glad I didn't order one, though -- I would have wanted to sit and drink it.

Well, I think that makes it pretty clear we need to go lynching.

I'm patiently waiting for the 3pm physical moves before continuing to contemplate any game moves (like voting).

I thought it had to do with moving around the Labyrinth.

Ah, perhaps a hint/reminder to send in physical move requests.

Ditto on that front.