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Brian Swartz 03-26-2020 08:43 PM

I can't read so nvm.

CrimsonFox 03-26-2020 08:48 PM


PilotMan 03-26-2020 10:06 PM

Probably should be in the trump thread, not this one, but yeah....run it all day long.

stevew 03-26-2020 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rjolley (Post 3271903)
For the delivery services, how do they handle expiration dates? Do they pay attention to them at all? Or am I at the whim of the person selecting?


Whim of the picker, but there’s a mechanism to get a refund I believe. Also at this point there’s unlikely to be anything expired left.

stevew 03-26-2020 11:12 PM

Dola- you can reduce a tip if you think you got grungy stuff too. You can also rate the shopper. But ratings don’t matter at this specific moment.

If you ask for something that’s out of stock, shopper should move on to something similar. Sometimes there’s nothing left, in which case you’d get refunded. Also there’s a live connect so if you don’t like the substitute you can ask for something else or nothing at all.

MIJB#19 03-27-2020 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3271940)
On Mon, CNN was reporting that...

Part of the problem here could be CNN's terrible trackrecord in fact checking.

Another thing to consider is the timing of calculating the fatalities, the authorities here are open that some of them are added to the overall totals with some delay, based on when the hospital actually reported time of death etc. If some data reports accumulate numbers of several days consistently, this will either give spikes or means day to day data needs to be reexamined for recent days regularly.

GrantDawg 03-27-2020 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3271781)
Great idea! I just put in a Kroger Pickup order. My 'time' of pickup is Sunday night from 7-8pm. Never tried it before... but it definitely lessened my anxiety about going around a grocery store.

My wife has long shopped using the click-list. She went to put in her order yesterday hoping for a Saturday pick-up, but instead her earliest pick-up was Monday at 6pm! The weird thing was she could get a delivery order at 3pm today. We went with the delivery order for the first time ever. It only cost us $5 more.

AlexB 03-27-2020 06:28 AM

Boris Johnson has tested positive

Edward64 03-27-2020 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexB (Post 3271963)
Boris Johnson has tested positive


Leader of the herd so seems kinda appropriate?

Edward64 03-27-2020 06:43 AM

Wife said she received an email from a snorkeling rental place we used in our Hawaii trip. They were asking for donations.

There are a few local restaurants that have my email & phone (ordering for delivery/pick-up) and I would donate some of my stimulus to them.

Wonder if this will become a thing.

JPhillips 03-27-2020 08:59 AM

1 Phone tracking is scary stuff.

2 We live ina world where people travel and take viruses with them.


Brian Swartz 03-27-2020 09:31 AM

It appears this is having an impact on my psyche - had my first virus-related nightmare last night.

Edward64 03-27-2020 09:35 AM

So what is up with the 2 prima-donnas? What is their motive and do they really think this would not reflect poorly on them?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/27/polit...ote/index.html
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy both made clear on Thursday that they want the $2 trillion stimulus bill to be approved by their chamber Friday by voice vote.

But if any member requests a recorded vote, lawmakers would have to cast a roll call vote. Republican Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky is viewed as the most likely member to try to force the vote after indicating publicly his reservations about a voice vote.

Also, Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York told CNN on Wednesday that she might force a recorded vote, but Democrats don't believe she will.

tarcone 03-27-2020 09:37 AM

Missouri Governor just activated the National Guard to help.

Brian Swartz 03-27-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64
So what is up with the 2 prima-donnas? What is their motive and do they really think this would not reflect poorly on them?


At least in Massie's case, it's the idea that there would be no record of which way members vote in a matter of this level of national and financial significance.

tarcone 03-27-2020 09:48 AM

Didnt take long to get back to politics did it?

Edward64 03-27-2020 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 3271981)
Didnt take long to get back to politics did it?


Darn, you are right.

SirFozzie 03-27-2020 09:52 AM

Trump wants the GOP to kick out Massie. Wow.

NobodyHere 03-27-2020 09:55 AM

Edit: Reposted in Trump thread

Brian Swartz 03-27-2020 09:56 AM

SirFozzie has a good point; we're veering more and more into stuff that should be in the Trump thread. For my part, I'll post any more such replies there.

Edward64 03-27-2020 09:58 AM

Sorry everyone. I broke the rule and started this political tangent.

miami_fan 03-27-2020 10:06 AM

I don’t usually have group meetings online and when I do, it is usually through Skype and audio only. I had a meeting with another organization that was going to be done via Zoom. I called in the Zoom expert of the house. My twelve year old who I am guessing has had 18 Zoom meetings so far this week.

Castlerock 03-27-2020 10:07 AM

My Dad's assisted-living / memory-care facility went from 1 covid-19-positive resident to 2 last week. And now it's 3 residents and 2 staff members.

We pulled him out as soon as the second positive case emerged and he is now at home with my Mom despite the increased risk to her health. The decision was made after talking to a family member who is an ER physician. He said that it's going to spread through there like wildfire. There are no visitors allowed already and if he got it, he would be transported out and if it was fatal, we would likely never see him again. The second factor was that he said it is going to take down many of the staff and if there is insufficient staff to give care then care will be insufficient.

NobodyHere 03-27-2020 10:13 AM

Sorry, conspiracy theorists. Study concludes COVID-19 'is not a laboratory construct'

Looks like ABC is part of the cover-up!

ISiddiqui 03-27-2020 10:14 AM

Sorry to hear that Castlerock. Assisted living facilities are going to be hit hard, unfortunately. I think you did the right thing taking your dad out of there.

ISiddiqui 03-27-2020 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3271962)
My wife has long shopped using the click-list. She went to put in her order yesterday hoping for a Saturday pick-up, but instead her earliest pick-up was Monday at 6pm! The weird thing was she could get a delivery order at 3pm today. We went with the delivery order for the first time ever. It only cost us $5 more.


One of the strange things I realized is that you can 'reserve' a spot, but if you don't complete your order by midnight than the spot is opened back up. So you may see a bunch of pickup order filled that open up right at 12:01. I was hoping I could move my pickup earlier in the day as there were multiple new pickup spots open earlier than my 7-8pm slot, but once you have a time you have it - and I didn't want to cancel and reorder. I also see I can get delivery today by 5pm if I wanted for $10.

Also this pickup for me is free (no $5 charge) probably since it's my first one and we don't need anything right this moment, so I figure can wait. Good to know the rest of that.

Edward64 03-27-2020 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3271998)


Well, sure its naturally occurring but that's not the real point. Think about it logically :)

The real conspiracy theory is ... it's naturally occurring but it was China (or US) that weaponized it and spread it to the US.

Edward64 03-27-2020 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Castlerock (Post 3271994)
My Dad's assisted-living / memory-care facility went from 1 covid-19-positive resident to 2 last week. And now it's 3 residents and 2 staff members.

We pulled him out as soon as the second positive case emerged and he is now at home with my Mom despite the increased risk to her health. The decision was made after talking to a family member who is an ER physician. He said that it's going to spread through there like wildfire. There are no visitors allowed already and if he got it, he would be transported out and if it was fatal, we would likely never see him again. The second factor was that he said it is going to take down many of the staff and if there is insufficient staff to give care then care will be insufficient.


Yes, sorry you guys are going through this. I am sure there was a lot angst as to what was the best decision to make.

tarcone 03-27-2020 11:04 AM

Zoom is going to make a killing off this.

My family is using it to get together to celebrate my Dads 90th birthday. We had to cancel the family get together.

Meetings are there as well. Handy little program.

JPhillips 03-27-2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tarcone (Post 3272010)
Zoom is going to make a killing off this.

My family is using it to get together to celebrate my Dads 90th birthday. We had to cancel the family get together.

Meetings are there as well. Handy little program.


Just be careful to monitor or make your meetings private. There are all sorts of stories of people crashing meetings and doing porn or other objectionable things.

miami_fan 03-27-2020 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3272015)
Just be careful to monitor or make your meetings private. There are all sorts of stories of people crashing meetings and doing porn or other objectionable things.


Coronavirus: Add 'Zoom-bombing' to the stresses overwhelming schools - Los Angeles Times

We have also had reports in our local school district.

ISiddiqui 03-27-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3272015)
Just be careful to monitor or make your meetings private. There are all sorts of stories of people crashing meetings and doing porn or other objectionable things.


This is why we can't have nice things.

RainMaker 03-27-2020 12:43 PM

Things like these are nice. You can slide it when you have to run to the bathroom or are done. Avoids unnecessarily leaving it on and having some private stuff show.

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Ironhead 03-27-2020 12:48 PM

Does anyone know of a place where current case counts in the US can be downloaded into CSV at the county level? I am curious how some of the case counts look at the county level relative to both population size and population density but I can't find a site that is mapping that data.

Arles 03-27-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironhead (Post 3272030)
Does anyone know of a place where current case counts in the US can be downloaded into CSV at the county level? I am curious how some of the case counts look at the county level relative to both population size and population density but I can't find a site that is mapping that data.

Is this what you are looking for?

GitHub - nytimes/covid-19-data: An ongoing repository of data on coronavirus cases and deaths in the U.S.

JPhillips 03-27-2020 12:51 PM

The NYT supposedly released all that data today.

edit: Yeah, what he said

RainMaker 03-27-2020 12:55 PM

Almost 1000 deaths in Italy yesterday. Deaths in New York jump 139 overnight.

Read an article last night on how the numbers are likely higher here. Lot of deaths from pneumonia across the country that just don't have tests available. When they can test post-mortem, we'll likely see an increase.

Found this video being promoted. It's a doctor giving a good guide to how to handle groceries and takeout food. Essentially how they keep rooms sterile in an office/hospital. Maybe a little overkill but if you're immunocompromised or around someone who is older, it's worth the extra few minutes.


Ironhead 03-27-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles (Post 3272031)


Perfect, thanks!

PilotMan 03-27-2020 01:11 PM

Is it ok to call this the "Slant-eyed Sickness"? Asking for a friend.

Lathum 03-27-2020 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironhead (Post 3272030)
Does anyone know of a place where current case counts in the US can be downloaded into CSV at the county level? I am curious how some of the case counts look at the county level relative to both population size and population density but I can't find a site that is mapping that data.


I don't know about a CSV but the weather channel app is tracking it by county

Edward64 03-27-2020 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3272035)
Is it ok to call this the "Slant-eyed Sickness"? Asking for a friend.


Tell him its probably not ADL definition of racist but prejudicial/bigoted and definitely in poor taste. Is he from KY?

Brian Swartz 03-27-2020 01:43 PM

I have a simpler answer:

No. It isn't ok. Full stop.

Edward64 03-27-2020 01:47 PM

Anyone from MI? Hard as it is, it is good they are thinking and planning for worse case scenarios.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/27/healt...rus/index.html
Quote:

A spokesman for the Henry Ford Health System told CNN the "letter is part of a larger policy document developed for an absolute worst-case scenario."

"It is not an active policy within Henry Ford, but it is part of our emergency response planning," the spokesman said.

The letter has not been shared with patients, but aims to explain that the coronavirus pandemic has made some medical supplies hard to find.

"Because of shortages, we will need to be careful with resources," reads the letter, which is addressed to patients, families and the community. "Patients who have the best chance of getting better are our first priority."

"Patients who are treated with a ventilator or ICU care may have these treatments stopped," it says, "if they do not improve over time."

The letter goes on to say patients with severe heart, lung, kidney or liver failure, severe trauma or burns, or terminal cancers may be ineligible for a ventilator or ICU care. These patients will instead receive "pain control and comfort measures."

"This decision will be based on medical condition and likelihood of getting better," the letter says.

Brian Swartz 03-27-2020 01:55 PM

I live in the mitten. As unreliable as the case stats are, Michigan's been moving up the list - maybe we are just testing more, but as I mentioned a few days ago Detroit is expectedly not good according to the numbers and once things go bad in New Orleans, they may be talking about that as the next big city. We've taken a fairly middle-of-the-road approach compared to other states. There's good stuff in other cities - locally they are already starting to put hospital beds in college buildings for example in preparation, this is in Grand Rapids which is less than an hour drive from me and the state's second-largest city.

Henry Ford though would be a big part of the worst part of the state for this, and I'm sure they didn't want that to get out, but it's got to be considered unfortunately.

Brian Swartz 03-27-2020 01:57 PM

Saw a national poll today - 79% said the current restrictions are necessary, 59% said Easter was too soon for going back to normal. At least for now, public opinion is firmly on that side. It'll be interesting to track how those kinds of numbers change. I doubt very much that two weeks from now there won't have been at least some shift.

Brian Swartz 03-27-2020 02:06 PM

Trola, Italy over 900 today. They had leveled out at least for a few days, but that's a new high for them by a good margin. I'm really looking forward to the point where some of these hardest-hit countries get over the mountain here but we clearly aren't there yet.

Ben E Lou 03-27-2020 02:39 PM

30-day stay-at-home order coming for the entire state of NC. To be announced at 4pm.

Ben E Lou 03-27-2020 02:48 PM

Jon Lajoie delivers as usual.



Ben E Lou 03-27-2020 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3272056)
30-day stay-at-home order coming for the entire state of NC. To be announced at 4pm.

Watching presser now. He just said "enforcement" starts Monday at 5pm, but we're urged to do it now. The details don't sound much different from our local order other than the "enforcement" statement. Curious what that means.

Scoobz0202 03-27-2020 03:20 PM

Probably the same as Ohio. Not much different, but don't throw house parties or they will come. Don't play 5v5 basketball at the local park or they will come. Etc.


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