The Thunder-Jazz game currently in a delay. Apparently Gobert was a late scratch for illness and they are waiting for league approval to play. All kinds of run it’s flying around.

I think we're right on the cusp of seeing all sports cancelled for some time.

Uhhhhhh

PA announcer says “due to unforeseen circumstances the game has been postponed. You are all safe”

— Sarah Todd (@NBASarah) March 12, 2020

Twitter

BREAKING: #Jazz C Rudy Gobert and PG Emmanuel Mudiay are being taken to Mercy Medical Center in downtown OKC to be tested for the coronavirus.

It is inevitable that a player will get it. Not only all the travel they do but interaction with fans, going to nightclubs, etc...

Once one does its game over.

Just great logic by Adande - esp when he gets all his tickets for free :rolleyes:

Rather than refunding the tickets, give the money to the arena workers whose paychecks are going to take a hit. It’s literally disposable income for the people who bought the tickets. It isn’t for the people who need to work these events to pay their bills

— J.A. Adande (@jadande) March 11, 2020

30 day travel ban from Europe

He’s surely going to contradict half of this speech by tomorrow. It’s amazing how poorly he reads.

He sounds and looks sick

Nasally.

That was weird.

Pretty fair summary here...

That included some good advice, some potentially sensible policies, and some measures that could help. That's good. It's criminally late, in a way that may cost lives, and it's wrapped in self-serving bullshit and seething resentment, but it's not all bad.....

— OneMileContainmentHat (@Popehat) March 12, 2020

Talks about coming together tonight, bu tomorrow AM he will be hate tweeting Joe Biden or Pelosi.

Tom Hanks & Rita Wilson have it.

They're in Australia.

No Trump owned properties in Europe, outside of the UK right?

Rudy Gobert tested positive for it.

Well it’s a plan, right?

After making fun of people for freaking out about it and purposely touching things to make a point.

source?

Annnnndddd the NBA regular season has been suspended

where are you guys seeing this?

SportsDigs. Sorry, had to be done.

As part of the Jazz’s COVID-19 response, shootaround availability was done in the ZBBC media room today rather than on the court. As Rudy Gobert got finished discussing the situation, he stood up, leaned over and made it a point to touch every mic and recorder in front of him. 😂

— Eric Walden (@tribjazz) March 9, 2020

The NBA has suspended the season.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) March 12, 2020

Gobert, you asshole! I wonder if they would have just played in empty arenas if he didn't do that.

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Feeling Strong enough to play! A well conditioned athlete probably has little cause for concern of their own personal well being.

I look forward to hanging out with you guys while we're all under quarantine.

Do people still say God don’t like ugly?

On Monday, Rudy Gobert made a point of touching all the microphones and recorders at his media availability. Tonight, he tested positive for COVID-19.

(🎥: @DanWeiner)
pic.twitter.com/6E01kHcXuF

— theScore (@theScore) March 12, 2020

Not meant as a religious commentary, I can just hear the voices of some of the old people from my childhood.

I'm jumping ahead like seventy steps but if Gobert got it from somebody coming back from Europe, and he's done that with the media and it leads to an outbreak... holy shit that's a bad look.

Is the US predicting similar 70% total infected? I like the Merkel's upfront approach.

Coronavirus: Up to 70% of Germany could become infected - Merkel - BBC News

Quick math for Germany - 58 million people, assuming 1% fatality (from Fauci), that is 580 thousand dead.

Quick math for US - 328 million people, 70% is 229 million, assuming 1% fatality, that is 2.9 million dead.

Yup, this is the part that is missed by most of the people posting on Facebook and posting memes about how it's killed less than Flu/Obesity/Childhood Poverty and/or how we're all going to get it anyway so let's just go on with our lives. The contagiousness of this is within a range that is backed by science, the numbers are going to be huge, do we want most of them in the next 2-3 weeks and 20-30 million cases that need hospitalization fighting for somewhere between 300-500k hospital beds, or do we want to play for time, spread it out over months and hopefully when critical mass is reached a vaccine is available for the most critical cases. It's simple maths and playing for time.

My wife and I were talking and this came up:

Towards the end of last year, there was a bad bug going around that a lot of people caught. From what she read, it was a bug that no one knew eactly what it was. Most chalked it up to a bad flu season. Was it this instead?

Just a thought exercise (not saying its realistic to do)...

Is the answer to temporarily segregate the older and pre-existing from everyone else for let's say 15-30 days? Essentially tell them (and anyone that needs to help care for them) stay home. No travel, someone will bring you food and other necessities.

Segregate the hospitals, do a better job maintaining a sterile environment in hospitals, nursing homes and like. For those that can, work from home. For those that can't, paid sick leave will provide (not sure about funding though).

Won't this flatten the curve that Fauci and others want and still let rest of US function for the most part?

I posted about 10 pages ago we should shut the USA down for 2 weeks.

Had we done that, we would not be having these problems.

I should be President.

The difference is I'm talking about approx 51 million 65+ and older, so not quite as drastic.

But yes, you should be President to protect the BAAAA-den sheeples :)

When you're president can I be Secretary of Energy?

Will the suspension of large events have a profound impact on spread? I definitely hope so. It sadly takes cancellations and infected celebrities to make the typical American even care

While we are at it, can I have the DHS position (specifically the INS dept)?

We should have a pool on which FOFC member tests positive 1st.

I can't keep up with y'all's postings so apologies if this has already been covered...

When do the Benghazi-style hearings begin for President Numbnuts? They tried to pin four needless deaths on Hilary's head, how many are they gonna pin on him?

Pelicans refusing to take the floor for the last NBA game of the foreseeable future.

White House has already had to release at least two clarifications about what Trump said-about trade goods and American citizens abroad

Nebraska head coach Fred Hoiberg been taken to the hospital, source told @Stadium. Was sick, left the game early and was told to go to be checked out immediately. https://t.co/OPs1nmNTZg

— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) March 12, 2020

Well, some people would. A lot of people have already well displayed they are on the money > well-being of others side.

I just spoke to someone connected to the NHL. He expects the NHL to shut down games tomorrow like the NBA

Good thing Football season is over.

They better not fuck with baseball.

Opening day is 2 weeks from tomorrow. That shit ain’t happening. Two weeks from now there will likely be millions infected. Baseball ain’t happening.

Good bet that you are right.

yes it's so great that is takes sports getting cancelled for people to notice something is wrong

He does have a heart condition so it could be related to that.

DOW futures down almost 1200.

I work in a state capital, where public gatherings (not of thousands, but of scores) are literally the grist of the whole machine... and it feels weird AF. We nominally have three weeks until our legislative session is supposed to end... it's hard to see these three weeks unfolding normally in any way. No clue what lies ahead, and nobody else does, either. Nothing I have ever seen before.

Best bet is they will call an abridgment to the session at a date certain, cancel visitors including citizen testimony at public hearings, and then try to get out gracefully with a ton of stuff not finished that was supposed to work itself out by April 6.

Man, next week I'm supposed to go in for a half-day hospitalization program starting the 17th, and being on immune system supressants has me worried about catching something and then the immune system not being able to fight it well. Probably nothing, but I do think I have a valid reason to worry.

I only see Edward’s quoted posts, so answering his examples of overreacting: ideas of getting guns and cash in case society breaks down is the main one. That’s just hysterical.

Yes it’s serious, and treating it with concern, worry, shutting down the economy, restrictions to movement and gatherings, etc all perfectly sensible, and many of us may well end up knowing or knowing of people who die from this (I’m worried about my 87 year old dad with an elevated HR in particular), but talking as if this is some sort of apocalyptic horror movie and the end of society is plain ridiculous.

Or more succinctly, don't panic.

He tested positive for Influenza A. He was sent home without quarantine, thankfully.

Read that 9% of diabetics will die from the virus. That has me a little worried.

To be fair I qualified it as a crazy thought but maybe you missed that part.

Has anyone seen if they are separating type one and two in that number?

My guess is that the numbers would be heavily slated towards the residual health problems stemming from the diabetes than the diabetes disease itself itself, type 1 or 2.

I don't disagree, we are nowhere close to temporary societal breakdown. Using a scale where LA Riots is a severity level 9 and Katrina a 10 (and Mad Max is a 100), I think we are 6'ish right now.

However, if a person is already worried about it then go ahead and do something about it. No harm in taking out additional cash and, if willing to be responsible, no harm in buying a weapon and getting trained on it.

Seriously, you do you. Doesn't matter what other people say. Assuming you are of sound mind, do what you need to do to feel good about taking care of family.

Some people on this board would likely have called all the buying and prevention measures as "panic" back in early Jan. Most of it is common sense now and goes to show you how things can escalate.

And don't forget a towel.

Isn't that sort of the premise of the The 100? I watched a couple seasons of that, met one of the stars once.

Also, see the book, "The Lord of the Flies." Different cause for the absence of adults, but a masterpiece of a book.

Ah, i did miss that part :lol:

So I realize this is anecdotal, but hospitals may already be stretched thin.

My Mother in Law had a heart transplant 11 years ago. She is ok, but far from ideal health. She has had diarrhea for about a week. Her heart doctor at Columbia Presbyterian in NY told her she has to come up from central Jersey to the hospital. The make the trip up on Tuesday. The tell her she has to be admitted for an IV. They put her in the ER to get it started. One side someone with a 105 fever, the other someone coughing like crazy. Far from ideal. Finally at 9 AM Wednesday AM she gets a room. 24 hours later she has yet to see a doctor. She has been through this before and it has never been like this. Very worrisome.

Down opened down 1644. Every time he speaks he does more damage.

"May you live in interesting times" is one hell of a curse


SI

I don't know if this was a typo or intentional, but it sure is fitting.

So following up on all this, I received a call from the doctor's office 90 mins before my scheduled visit. I didn't pick up as I was in the other room, called them back, and they suggested I go to the hospital instead. I told them, if that was what they thought best I could, but that it was a little overkill. The worst was prior to the weekend and I was worried about the lingering cough, and possible secondary infection.

Long story short, I did an e-visit. They feel I have/had Covid-19. They are calling in some albuterol to help open up my lungs and reduce the residual cough (I think it will completely solve it.). I kind of understand not wanting to see me and thus exposing other patients, but recommending going to the hospital right away I do not think is the right answer either. I had to reiterate a few times to the nurse that I was not having any trouble breathing.

Hang in there, Warhammer.

Wonder if albuterol really does help?

My daughter has some that she uses sometimes for asthma. We have some extras so good to know.

Told my son to invite back his European roommate for spring break next week. He's probably freaking out a little.

Hope it all turns out well, Warhammer. It does seem like a bit of overkill, but I guess doctor's offices are likely freaking too.

Here is the thing, I am on the backside of everything. The two risk factors for me, I am 45 and asthmatic (but this has been well under control for years, was even running 5 miles multiple times a week a few years ago with no need for an inhaler).

For what is bothering me now, and knowing my body, I think albuterol is what I need. I will advise after I get it, that's how under control my asthma has been, I don't have a current prescription for any of the meds.

Honestly, outside of the cough and the sore throat (due to the cough), I feel fine at this point. I might be a little more sensitive than normal to temperature changes.

To me, what is more bewildering is the response from the doctor's office, which is why I have been posting all this. This doctor is a pretty solid doctor, a bit old school in the, here is what I am doing, this is what I think it is. There is a small chance it could be this, but the test is expensive, and not worth the cost for the chance. If you still have these symptoms after 2 days let me know, and we will change treatment. Where most other recent doctors I have had, will just run the test, say it is necessary and how ever many dollars later (and ruling that out, just to be safe) treat you the same way.

They seem a little disorganized compared to how they normally are. I was also puzzled by immediately recommending I go to the hospital even though the worst was over. I can certainly understand not wanting to infect the staff or other people at the office, but we don't even know if I have this or if it was the normal flu.

Yeah, that is what strikes me about the situation. Also, I was asked to quarantine myself, which will not be an issue as long as the kids don't have any issues where I need to take them somewhere in an emergency (wife is out of town this weekend).

Good to see you back for a post at least. Hang in there.

Well I just checked my 401(k)… maybe a 15% drop since mid February. At least I have 20 years until I'm contemplating retirement.

They probably (or should) want to confirm whether or not you actually have it, so that you can follow up with people you’ve been closely associating with. You’re probably beyond needing help, but others you’ve been in close contact with would ideally get tested and self-quarantine if they are found to be positive. I don’t disagree the hospital isn’t necessarily the best place to be tested though.

Wow warhammer. Good luck. Sounds like you’re on the backend.

Exactly, I would be more than willing to go back to people with that info if I had been tested, but the fact I haven't been makes that hard for me to do.

That said, the guys I have been travelling with at work I have kept posted on how I have been feeling, and everything else. Which is something I do normally if I have been travelling with someone.

Viking and Princess suspending all cruises.

I refuse to look. I was having such a good year so far. I want to keep those memories.

Also...

Jazz star Donovan Mitchell has tested positive for the coronavirus, league sources tell ESPN. Jazz players privately say that Rudy Gobert had been careless in the locker room touching other players and their belongings. Now a Jazz teammate has tested positive.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) March 12, 2020

I thought "that's just cold, really brutal" :)

Me too.

There's going to be the inevitable layoffs coming. Average recession I read was 10-12 months but this is going to be a global recession. Hope it'll be shallow assuming good progress on a vaccine and my guess is the US will bounce back earlier than the other countries, so relatively speaking still good to be in US stocks ... just don't look right now!

So just got the prescription, yeah it is helping me. Crackle/wheeze is gone even on deep exhales. This should also help my cough as well, will keep you posted there.

As a note, many respiratory bugs can have (I think it is termed) acute asthmatic inflammation as a side effect, which the albuterol relieves. It affects me by what I would call a pre-asthma attack. Lung and bronchial linings have swollen but not to the point of producing mucus (which would be a full blown attack).

What is odd, and I have never had this happen before, this has opened my sinuses. Not sure what that means, only way the meds would get there would be upon exhaling (after exhaling through the mouth as you would for normal inhaler application).

I tend to be a worrier, so I figured I'd just bite the bullet

Hearing that there are discussions about cancelling the NCAA tournament. Makes sense with the travel and close contact, but what a big loss.

Hard to believe how quickly things are becoming unraveled.

Good to see at least one of the experts willing to tell the truth regardless of what Trump says.

dola

GOPers starting to say the Senate won't do anything until after recess so they can see what needs to be done.

Crazy.

Starting to hear of conference tournaments getting cancelled.

Big Ten, SEC, American cancel conference tournaments

"Jazz players are privately saying that Gobert showed a cavalier attitude toward the virus in the locker room, touching teammates and their belongings."

That's going to follow him around for a while...

How do we know Donovan Mitchell didn't give it to Gobert?

There was definitely a momentum to things built at a crazy pace. But actual virus news took a big backseat yesterday. All the cancellations were triggered by other cancellations, or non-public information they were getting about the spread.

The numbers can't really be trusted, especially in the U.S., so it's kind of hard to process and understand just where we are with the actual virus. Which is an odd feeling when we're so used to having all relevant information and stats at our fingerprints at all times.

Maybe he did. We've seen illness travel through locker rooms quickly, that's nobody fault. But it sounds like the Jazz players are annoyed by Gobert making a big joke of it.

(When they said he was "touching teammates and their belongings," I took that to mean that he was doing that the way he touched those microphones, as like a prank making fun of precautions others were taking. Like if somebody at work was staying in their office to stay safe and I ran in there and started touching their face to be funny).

We don't but as we have seen with a number of other things, the locker room is not the most rational space in the world.