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PilotMan 09-09-2018 03:48 PM

There just seem to be so many penalties today. So many personal fouls for hits. So many that look like there was nothing that the defender could have done.

JPhillips 09-09-2018 04:05 PM

The Dunlap sack on Luck was really hard to see how he could have done anything differently.

PilotMan 09-09-2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3217071)
The Dunlap sack on Luck was really hard to see how he could have done anything differently.



Yeah, that one especially.

Thomkal 09-09-2018 04:43 PM

Color me not impressed with the new look Cardinals so far this season. :(

bhlloy 09-09-2018 04:48 PM

Yup, just from watching RedZone I saw at least three of those landing on the QB penalties that were really soft. That’s going to cost a few teams games this year. Typical overreaction to a flagrant incident that injured a star player, the way the rule is written and they way they are calling it there is nothing these defensive players can do. Not sure how a 300lb defensive lineman is supposed to magically hold his weight off the QB when tackling him.

JPhillips 09-09-2018 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3217072)
Yeah, that one especially.


I could have bought a ticky-tack helmet to the chin call, but that part of the sack was okay.

claphamsa 09-09-2018 05:12 PM

is anyone else confused when the announcers dont talk about how beloved the cardinals are?

Groundhog 09-09-2018 06:59 PM

Just watched the highlights of the Browns-Steelers game. Talk about the most Browns-esque way to finish a game.

Thomkal 09-09-2018 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 3217079)
is anyone else confused when the announcers dont talk about how beloved the cardinals are?



:D


Wasn't much to be beloved there today.

NobodyHere 09-09-2018 07:39 PM

I guess the "have your big lineman line up as a receiver and run up the middle" play is pretty good.

EagleFan 09-09-2018 08:15 PM

Looks like my 'over' for this Bears/Packers game is shot to hell.

NobodyHere 09-09-2018 08:18 PM

Bears up 10, Rodgers is in the medical tent, not a good start to the Packer's season.

PilotMan 09-09-2018 08:20 PM

I feel like the whole police/anthem/trump protests could be changed. It's gotten to the point, where people are over saturated with it. It might be more effective if football players, in every single interview, called out police brutality, the attacks of the president on the players, and the need for solutions, and do that, instead of talking about the game itself. I know they have a requirement to talk to the media, but it seems like it would be effective, and a way to keep the discussion pointed in the right direction.

EagleFan 09-09-2018 08:22 PM

The return of the butt fumble!!!

NobodyHere 09-09-2018 08:22 PM

Or maybe football players can talk about something they're experienced with: football.

Thomkal 09-09-2018 08:26 PM

So Packers fans feeling worse than Cards fans now I guess?

EagleFan 09-09-2018 08:30 PM

Are the Raiders regretting the trade yet...

Lathum 09-09-2018 08:30 PM

Khalil Mack, my goodness...

Coffee Warlord 09-09-2018 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3217098)
Khalil Mack, my goodness...


That was just the most low key .... "okay, I'll be taking the ball now. Thanks."

NobodyHere 09-09-2018 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3217098)
Khalil Mack, my goodness...


Mack: "Dear Packers QB, may I have football?"
Packer QB: "Sure, I wasn't really doing anything with it anyways"
Mack: "K, thanks!"

NobodyHere 09-09-2018 08:41 PM

Mack: "I enjoyed having the ball, can I have it again?"
Packer QB: "I don't see why not"

MizzouRah 09-09-2018 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3217098)
Khalil Mack, my goodness...



That guy is a freaking beast out there.

albionmoonlight 09-09-2018 09:08 PM

Days like today give ammo to Drew Brees detractors and fans.

If you are a detractor, you point out that the guy is always in shootouts, which gives him opportunities to put up yards that other QBs don't have.

If you are a fan, you point out that if he had an average defense for his whole career, he'd average 12+ wins a season.

All of which is really just an intellectual exercise because Ryan Fitzpatrick is clearly the best QB in NFL history.

EagleFan 09-09-2018 09:50 PM

We've got a game.

EagleFan 09-09-2018 09:51 PM

10 more points, need 10 more points!!!

Lathum 09-09-2018 10:09 PM

Stupid play to throw the ball there. Leave Rodgers more time. Is there any doubt whats about to happen?

EagleFan 09-09-2018 10:14 PM

Nice.

EagleFan 09-09-2018 10:15 PM

Would be okay with a Bears winning FG. Just glad they reached 47 points.

EagleFan 09-09-2018 10:21 PM

Boneheaded play by Matthews.

Lathum 09-09-2018 10:26 PM

Horrific play calling by the Bears there that last series. Two time outs and you only need a field goal and they throw all long passes. They have 4 downs to work with to get about 20 yards. How about a screen pass or a run to mix it up? Terrible ending.

EagleFan 09-09-2018 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3217114)
Horrific play calling by the Bears there that last series. Two time outs and you only need a field goal and they throw all long passes. They have 4 downs to work with to get about 20 yards. How about a screen pass or a run to mix it up? Terrible ending.


Yeah, that made no sense.

weegeebored 09-09-2018 10:29 PM

When Rogers came back in, Fangio should have blitzed every down. Nope. All this talk about Nagy's offense and all of the weapons...ha! Nagy clearly needs more seasoning. His play calling in the 2nd half was atrocious. Meaningless dink passes to the outside; playing not to lose. Guess what? Losing teams figure out a way to lose and winning teams win. Simple.

hoopsguy 09-09-2018 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3217114)
Horrific play calling by the Bears there that last series. Two time outs and you only need a field goal and they throw all long passes. They have 4 downs to work with to get about 20 yards. How about a screen pass or a run to mix it up? Terrible ending.


Yep, combined with too conservative an approach in third quarter and all kinds of struggles with third-and-short all night, and it was not a great debut for the new coach/playcaller in Chicago.

MizzouRah 09-09-2018 10:34 PM

Chicago plays like I do in Madden.

albionmoonlight 09-09-2018 10:35 PM

Can you go back and look at what the lines were at the books that have betting throughout the game? What was the Packers' money line at the end of the first half?

Lathum 09-09-2018 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3217119)
Can you go back and look at what the lines were at the books that have betting throughout the game? What was the Packers' money line at the end of the first half?


I looked at one point on FanDuel and it was +600. Almost took it. Story of my gambling life.

RainMaker 09-09-2018 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by weegeebored (Post 3217116)
When Rogers came back in, Fangio should have blitzed every down. Nope. All this talk about Nagy's offense and all of the weapons...ha! Nagy clearly needs more seasoning. His play calling in the 2nd half was atrocious. Meaningless dink passes to the outside; playing not to lose. Guess what? Losing teams figure out a way to lose and winning teams win. Simple.


Starts at the top. Pace is another in a long line of frauds who swindled the moron McCaskeys.

B & B 09-10-2018 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3217119)
Can you go back and look at what the lines were at the books that have betting throughout the game? What was the Packers' money line at the end of the first half?


HT line was a Pk, which I took when they said ARog was playing


I need some more outs that have the ML youre talking about though.

The +17 was a real feel good safety blankee.

Groundhog 09-10-2018 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah (Post 3217118)
Chicago plays like I do in Madden.


Welp, 2 mins left and I need to score, time to call Four Verticals every possession.

RainMaker 09-10-2018 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by weegeebored (Post 3217116)
When Rogers came back in, Fangio should have blitzed every down.


Rodgers was 2 for 2 for 126 yards and a TD when the Bears blitzed.

Blitzing Rodgers never seems to work. Bears were just gassed in the 4th. Nagy's light training camp didn't seem to get the team conditioned for real football games.

weegeebored 09-10-2018 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3217125)
Blitzing Rodgers never seems to work. Bears were just gassed in the 4th. Nagy's light training camp didn't seem to get the team conditioned for real football games.

Clearly not blitzing didn't work either. Agree about the conditioning -- all the more reason to blitz and try to get pressure on him. Rodgers just looked too comfortable back there for a guy taken off on a cart. That should never have happened.

Also agree with you about Pace, but this is what the Bears are under the McCaskey ownership. Mismanagement and poor football decisions are what they do.

Honolulu_Blue 09-10-2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3217125)
Nagy's light training camp didn't seem to get the team conditioned for real football games.


For the Lions, the concern, at the moment, is the opposite. Apparently, Patricia's training camp was very, very hard. The hardest for any Lions team in a long time. There has been a lot written and discussed about the Lions poor performance in the pre-season due to the players being too worn down from the harsh training camp.

It will be interested to see how they look tonight. I will say, if things don't go well against the Jets and Darnold, things could be very, very ugly for this new regime quite quickly.

bronconick 09-10-2018 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 3217143)
For the Lions, the concern, at the moment, is the opposite. Apparently, Patricia's training camp was very, very hard. The hardest for any Lions team in a long time. There has been a lot written and discussed about the Lions poor performance in the pre-season due to the players being too worn down from the harsh training camp.

It will be interested to see how they look tonight. I will say, if things don't go well against the Jets and Darnold, things could be very, very ugly for this new regime quite quickly.


I expect Tuesday morning's story to be whether Sam Darnold has wrapped up the Rookie of the Year already.

albionmoonlight 09-10-2018 11:52 AM

Lots of talk today about the Saints D having communications issues yesterday, leading to blown coverages and big plays.

I think maybe the preseason pendulum has swung too far in favor of not playing starters. I get injury concerns, but guys need time to play together outside of comfortable practice situations.

Honolulu_Blue 09-10-2018 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 3217145)
I expect Tuesday morning's story to be whether Sam Darnold has wrapped up the Rookie of the Year already.


The Lions faced Matt Ryan in his rookie debut. While Ryan didn't have a huge day number-wise, the Falcons did jump out to a 21-0 nothing first quarter lead and ended up winning 34-21. Auspicious beginnings!

BishopMVP 09-10-2018 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3217147)
Lots of talk today about the Saints D having communications issues yesterday, leading to blown coverages and big plays.

I think maybe the preseason pendulum has swung too far in favor of not playing starters. I get injury concerns, but guys need time to play together outside of comfortable practice situations.

Did the Saints have any joint practices this preseason like they had a few times in the past with the Patriots? Those always seemed like they helped more than the actual preseason games.


Also, what was the rationale behind the NFL changing regular season OT to 10 minutes? Did they claim it was for player safety?

Ksyrup 09-10-2018 01:42 PM

Yes, player safety. It started last year.

albionmoonlight 09-10-2018 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 3217153)
Did the Saints have any joint practices this preseason like they had a few times in the past with the Patriots? Those always seemed like they helped more than the actual preseason games.


Also, what was the rationale behind the NFL changing regular season OT to 10 minutes? Did they claim it was for player safety?


I think that they did with the Texans and Chargers.

Maybe they needed to hook up with the Pats again, because yesterday was an embarrassment.

cuervo72 09-10-2018 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 3217041)
If he fumbled it before breaking the plane, it would have been Giants ball since the fumble went out of bounds in the endzone. That's what they were challenging.


Which if they had eyes they could see that clearly wasn't the case. :)

JonInMiddleGA 09-10-2018 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 3217145)
I expect Tuesday morning's story to be whether Sam Darnold has wrapped up the Rookie of the Year already.


Orrrrrrrrrr not? :D


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