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Tyrith 07-09-2008 09:15 AM

*wipes brow* We're not as screwed as it seemed like. Engineers need to work on the slave pens ASAP. Then everyone who can spare the AP needs to go slave herding. Then we'll deal with the other stuff -- the water next, probably.

Alan T 07-09-2008 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith (Post 1772918)
Hey, look, it's a mod edit!



Oh good.. because I was about to come after you to ask why that wasn't fixed after last night :)

Alan T 07-09-2008 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith (Post 1772924)
*wipes brow* We're not as screwed as it seemed like. Engineers need to work on the slave pens ASAP. Then everyone who can spare the AP needs to go slave herding. Then we'll deal with the other stuff -- the water next, probably.



Agreed.. engineers need to get the slave pens fixed asap today so we can then see if we have time for anything else after rounding up the slaves.

Tyrith 07-09-2008 09:18 AM

Alright, I'm off to go sling some wrenches again.

Alan T 07-09-2008 09:19 AM

Barkeep :

The slave herding action is 1 AP per 4 slaves where Security personal have a chance of being injured and non-security personal have a chance of being killed along with a high risk of being injured... That is day or night action right?

jeheinz72 07-09-2008 09:19 AM

Can I work while Exhausted? I mean, I'm up for it, I'm a tough SOB, but will the game allow it?

If so, I'll put in my order to get working on the pens ASAP.

FYI, and I don't know if this matters, but I saw a slave attack Danny and wound him

Alan T 07-09-2008 09:20 AM

I assume it is day action as well.. so theoretically we have enough security personal to herd up the slaves today once the slave quarters are fixed...

Barkeep one other question.. once the slaves are herded up can they still go on an away mission today or not?

claphamsa 07-09-2008 09:21 AM

awaiting orders capitan alan!

mccollins 07-09-2008 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic (Post 1772921)
Yeah, beds were already taken by the time I got there.


You got a message about your sleeping arrangements?

Alan T 07-09-2008 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72 (Post 1772931)
Can I work while Exhausted? I mean, I'm up for it, I'm a tough SOB, but will the game allow it?

If so, I'll put in my order to get working on the pens ASAP.

FYI, and I don't know if this matters, but I saw a slave attack Danny and wound him


You can still work if exhausted, you just have a small chance of the action failing.

mccollins 07-09-2008 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 1772934)
awaiting orders capitan alan!


Hold on, I've got something coming for you.

Alan T 07-09-2008 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1772936)
You can still work if exhausted, you just have a small chance of the action failing.



Seems that since Danny won't be around till this afternoon that we need Tyrith and our other engineers to start up on the Slave pens (Those three should give 4 points of work with Tyrith's bonus).. and we can then see if any of the exhausted engineers failed because of exhaustion and then we need to order Danny to work on them too.

PackerFanatic 07-09-2008 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins (Post 1772935)
You got a message about your sleeping arrangements?


I did.

KWhit 07-09-2008 09:29 AM

I am going to start working on planning 2 mining away missions. Any reason I should do something else today?

jeheinz72 07-09-2008 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1772936)
You can still work if exhausted, you just have a small chance of the action failing.


10-4 good buddy. I'll drop down the action now.

Alan T 07-09-2008 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1772946)
I am going to start working on planning 2 mining away missions. Any reason I should do something else today?


Kwhit, Were both of your planned missions from yesterday used up, or did Saldana not use your mining mission?

I kind of wouldn't mind if you held back at least 1 AP in case you need it to order someone to do a function. I'm trying to avoid doing any ordering today at least for now if I can just in case I need all 3 AP to destroy the slaves for some reason. If we get to later in the day and it doesnt look like you'll need to use that AP then go for another planning mission if you want.

Barkeep49 07-09-2008 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1772930)
Barkeep :

The slave herding action is 1 AP per 4 slaves where Security personal have a chance of being injured and non-security personal have a chance of being killed along with a high risk of being injured... That is day or night action right?

It is a day or night action.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72 (Post 1772931)
Can I work while Exhausted? I mean, I'm up for it, I'm a tough SOB, but will the game allow it?

You can. There is a small chance your action won't happen. A VERY small chance.

KWhit 07-09-2008 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1772948)
Kwhit, Were both of your planned missions from yesterday used up, or did Saldana not use your mining mission?

I kind of wouldn't mind if you held back at least 1 AP in case you need it to order someone to do a function. I'm trying to avoid doing any ordering today at least for now if I can just in case I need all 3 AP to destroy the slaves for some reason. If we get to later in the day and it doesnt look like you'll need to use that AP then go for another planning mission if you want.


I asked BK about Saldana's mission, but never got an answer.

BK, do I still have a planned away mission available or did Saldana use it yesterday?

Barkeep49 07-09-2008 09:38 AM

Tyrith & jeheinz waste no time. Right after breakfast the two get to repairing the slave pens. Also after breakfast, mccollins approaches claphamsa and informs him that clap will be training to become an engineer.

Barkeep49 07-09-2008 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1772954)
I asked BK about Saldana's mission, but never got an answer.

BK, do I still have a planned away mission available or did Saldana use it yesterday?

It was the one planned by you.

mccollins 07-09-2008 09:41 AM

So KWhit planned 2 missions yesterday and Telle and Saldana used them.

I think we need to send 2 mining missions out today.
What is the ramifications of our cargo hold being broken though?

mccollins 07-09-2008 09:42 AM

Found it:
Quote:

If the Cargo Hold is damaged nothing may be taken in or out.

That needs to be fixed ASAP or mining missions are worthless.

mccollins 07-09-2008 09:42 AM

dola, I assume that goes for water too!!

PackerFanatic 07-09-2008 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1770851)
The Cargo Hold The Cargo Hold houses Crystlium and Water. The game begins with the Cargo Hold full of Water. If the Cargo Hold does not have enough room to house any harvested Crystlium water will be automatically dumped out. If the Cargo Hold is damaged nothing may be taken in or out. Further, if the Cargo Hold is damaged in Space some of the contents of the cargo hold will leak out after each cycle (night AND day). A successful spawn attack requires 3-6 man cycles of repair time.


No point in doing mining now, gotta repair the hold first

PackerFanatic 07-09-2008 09:43 AM

Too fast me, mc ;)

PackerFanatic 07-09-2008 09:43 AM

Too fast FOR me, actually.

KWhit 07-09-2008 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1772961)
It was the one planned by you.


Bugger.

That makes me a little more suspicious of Saldana to be honest. He only had slaves with him, so no one else could have sabotaged the mission, so it was either a really really bad roll of the dice, or Saldana didn't do his job properly.

mccollins 07-09-2008 09:44 AM

We don't have enough engineer power - The slave pen needs one more cycle to be fixed and the cargo hold needs 3 cycles to be fixed.

PurdueBrad 07-09-2008 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith (Post 1772924)
*wipes brow* We're not as screwed as it seemed like. Engineers need to work on the slave pens ASAP. Then everyone who can spare the AP needs to go slave herding. Then we'll deal with the other stuff -- the water next, probably.


Still catching up but I'm sending in this order immediately.

Tyrith 07-09-2008 09:45 AM

Sigh, we have to fix the hold before we can take anything in or out. It says that it's damaged but the text is green, which is confusing, but I'm going to assume it's broke.

Which also means we have no water.

PackerFanatic 07-09-2008 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins (Post 1772971)
We don't have enough engineer power - The slave pen needs one more cycle to be fixed and the cargo hold needs 3 cycles to be fixed.


I think the pens are probably little more important right now. Mainly because if we are constantly getting injured and having to trip over slaves, we won't have the time or resources to mine. Either way, looks like all the engineers are fixing the pens now.

mccollins 07-09-2008 09:46 AM

Furthermore, regarding engineers and fixing the engine room:
Quote:

Engine Room The ship may not lift-off (see Lift-Off below) unless the engines are working. Once the ship has lifted-off the engines may not be damaged. A successful spawn attack adds 3-8 man cycles of repair time to the engines. If the engines ever have at least 12 cycles worth of damage they will become so damaged that it will take twice as long for them to fix (in game terms the damage will be doubled). The ship cannot move with more than 5 units of damage.

The engine damage is currently at 8 cycles. Thus, if the engine is damaged 4 more cycles worth, it will automatically jump to 24 cycles worth of damage!

KWhit 07-09-2008 09:46 AM

Crap. How many cycles can we repair today?

Best case 6?

3 from the 3 engineers and the chief engineer gets 3 more. But there is a chance one or more won't take because of exhaustion....

jeheinz72 07-09-2008 09:47 AM

So is clap a full-bore engineer now?

PackerFanatic 07-09-2008 09:47 AM

Plus they can likely fix the hold tonight.

jeheinz72 07-09-2008 09:49 AM

BK - Because Danny was injured while working last night is that why his action didn't take?

We had 5 damage on the pens and Danny and I both worked, shouldn't that make 3 (now fixed with me and Tyrith on it today). Or does the fact he got wounded mean his action didn't count?

Passacaglia 07-09-2008 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1772920)
I made a few changes to the Day 2 post as I'd forgotten that the Security HQ and Water plant were guarded, thus they didn't take any more slave damage. I also have clarified the phaser situation.


Nice!

Tyrith 07-09-2008 09:52 AM

If we can't get any water out of the hold today we are in SERIOUSLY deep trouble. I'd like confirmation of the this fact, please.

Danny 07-09-2008 09:52 AM

I'm not sure, it didn't say in my PM anything about my action failing or being successful, just that I was attacked by a slave. I am repairing the slave pens again today. Hopefully it will be successful.

KWhit 07-09-2008 09:53 AM

Well, it looks like we won't be able to go mining today. So instead of wasting a day, I think we should send an away team out to explore again. I'd recommmend another mining mission.

KWhit 07-09-2008 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith (Post 1772985)
If we can't get any water out of the hold today we are in SERIOUSLY deep trouble. I'd like confirmation of the this fact, please.


Yes, you're right.

claphamsa 07-09-2008 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72 (Post 1772978)
So is clap a full-bore engineer now?

Bk hasnt said naything so i would guess not till the night!

KWhit 07-09-2008 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1772990)
Yes, you're right.


I mean, you're right that we'd be in trouble. I still would like BK to answer if we can or can't get water.

Passacaglia 07-09-2008 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1772989)
Well, it looks like we won't be able to go mining today. So instead of wasting a day, I think we should send an away team out to explore again. I'd recommmend another mining mission.


typo?

KWhit 07-09-2008 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins (Post 1772937)
Hold on, I've got something coming for you.


What was this about, mcc?

jeheinz72 07-09-2008 09:58 AM

My guess is it was his training him into an engineer

KWhit 07-09-2008 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1772995)
typo?


I meant that I'd recommend an exploration mission focused on finding mining sites. Sorry that wasn't clear.

claphamsa 07-09-2008 09:58 AM

hes training me to be an engineer

mccollins 07-09-2008 09:59 AM

In my opinion, the cargo hold was more important than the slave pen this morning. We could have had 2 mining missions for crys and then possibly 2 more tomorrow and been done mining.

And without water:
Quote:

Water
Each day each member of the crew needs 1 unit of water per day. If a crew member does not receive water for one day they become dehydrated (see Status below). If a survivor does not receive water for two days they die. Spawn do not need water to survive.

Of course, we could use this to find any spawn among us... :rolleyes:

mccollins 07-09-2008 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1772997)
What was this about, mcc?


Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72 (Post 1772998)
My guess is it was his training him into an engineer


Indeed. I sent the PM right after that.


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