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Telle 03-16-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad (Post 2242982)
This'll look bad if he turns up wolf, but I jokingly voted Claphamsa to welcome him back and didn't realize his reason for leaving. Let me lay off now so I don't feel quite as guilty and, if it gets me lynched, so be it.

unvote Claphamsa


Interestingly enough, a vote on clap would have been a good place for a wolf to hide a vote since you know nobody's going to follow you and actually vote him off on Day 1. But now you've unvoted him, so I guess that doesn't really mean anything anymore.

Telle 03-16-2010 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 2242973)
I think this is awful reasoning by danny, just awful. reminds me why i havent played in the last couple months

unvote ef
vote danny


Is it really any worse than just voting for the first person on the list though? Or any other stupid reason that someone comes up with for a Day 1 vote? We have nothing to go on at this point, so we come up with bullshit reasons just to get a vote in.

claphamsa 03-16-2010 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telle (Post 2243008)
Is it really any worse than just voting for the first person on the list though? Or any other stupid reason that someone comes up with for a Day 1 vote? We have nothing to go on at this point, so we come up with bullshit reasons just to get a vote in.

i think its way worse. voting for the first person is silly, but what else do you have? voting for someone based on their past play just shoudlnt be part of it.

Danny 03-16-2010 02:40 PM

How exactly did I vote for you based on past play?

henry296 03-16-2010 02:40 PM

I probably would vote Abe given his earlier question about lack for rationale, but no need for another candidate at this point.

Therefore, I'm going to vote for

EagleFan

The Jackal 03-16-2010 02:42 PM

EF 2 (Poli 52, henry 105)
clap 2 (Abe 72, Danny 89)
PB 2 (DV 78, EF 81)
poli 1 (CF 83)
Danny 1 (clap 93)

claphamsa 03-16-2010 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2243025)
How exactly did I vote for you based on past play?



now your playing dumb to obscure facts. u suggested people vote PB based on past games.

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 2243040)
now your playing dumb to obscure facts. u suggested people vote PB based on past games.


I don't think he ever suggested that. He was merely kidding around with PB (in my eyes).

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296 (Post 2243026)
I probably would vote Abe given his earlier question about lack for rationale, but no need for another candidate at this point.

Therefore, I'm going to vote for

EagleFan


Can we get a ruling on this vote? :D

I just see a bolded name but no actual bolded action, maybe he just really likes my screen name.

henry296 03-16-2010 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2243047)
Can we get a ruling on this vote? :D

I just see a bolded name but no actual bolded action, maybe he just really likes my screen name.


I did write vote in the line above... :)

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:10 PM

Hopefully there aren't any overreactions going on here today. There seemed to be a lot of good natured posts but maybe some of thre inside jokes aren't being viewed in that light.


I think there may be a lot of good information from today's vote.


If I missed it, what is the rule on a tie?

Telle 03-16-2010 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296 (Post 2243049)
I did write vote in the line above... :)


Would you mind re-voting just so we can be sure that's a legal vote, please?

Thank you.

PurdueBrad 03-16-2010 03:10 PM

Looking at the list of options, it goes w/o saying that I won't vote myself or Claphamsa at this point (except for self-defense).

That leaves EF, Danny, and Poli. I don't love how hard it is to vote for Poli on D1's now and I think it's a great way to hide a vote as a wolf because you can claim that it was because of his D1 voting style. I play the odds with EF right now, he was a wolf last game so the odds are that he wouldn't be a wolf again (weak reasoning but I'm trying to fight the urge to retaliate vote). And I have pushed Danny out a lot as of late, particularly early. Not great reasons, but I need to go. So, with the early deadline and the need to get a vote in, I'll go:

vote Poli

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telle (Post 2243051)
Would you mind re-voting just so we can be sure that's a legal vote, please?

Thank you.


But try a different name this time... :)

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:14 PM

Wanted to point out that you weren't my first vote on day one PB. :)

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:17 PM

Okay, I got over my laziness and read page one. I see it says no lynch is possible but the result of a tie is known only by him. Am I correct to assume that means a vote of "no lynch" is allowed but there is a tie break mechanism known only by Jackal in the event of a tie?

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:21 PM

unvote PB

vote Danny


Going on a hunch, was looking at the names of the players and wondered if the roles were random or "picked". Two names jumped out at me to answer the question to myself of "who would I pick as wolves?" if I was hand picking.

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:25 PM

as of 117:

EagleFan 2 - Poli (52), henry (105)
claphamsa 2 - Abe (72), Danny (89)
Poli 2 - CrimsonFox (83), PurdueBrad (113)
PurdueBrad 1 - Darth Vilus (78)
Danny 1 - claphamsa (93), EagleFan (117)

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:26 PM

as of 117 (if I could add to two for Danny's votes):

EagleFan 2 - Poli (52), henry (105)
claphamsa 2 - Abe (72), Danny (89)
Poli 2 - CrimsonFox (83), PurdueBrad (113)
Danny 2 - claphamsa (93), EagleFan (117)
PurdueBrad 1 - Darth Vilus (78)

Danny 03-16-2010 03:26 PM

That brings up a question, does anyone actually hand pick wolves? I thought we all did it randomly.

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:26 PM

If I see that right, Telle has yet to vote.

The Jackal 03-16-2010 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2243047)
Can we get a ruling on this vote? :D

I just see a bolded name but no actual bolded action, maybe he just really likes my screen name.


I counted it as a legal vote but would prefer the normal voting procedure in the future.

The Jackal 03-16-2010 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2243063)
Okay, I got over my laziness and read page one. I see it says no lynch is possible but the result of a tie is known only by him. Am I correct to assume that means a vote of "no lynch" is allowed but there is a tie break mechanism known only by Jackal in the event of a tie?


Right on both accounts.

henry296 03-16-2010 03:31 PM

vote EagleFan just to be clear.

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2243073)
That brings up a question, does anyone actually hand pick wolves? I thought we all did it randomly.


I have hand picked wolves and roles in the past, the last game that I ran was actually the first time I went 100% random.

When I hand pick I have tried to spread it out from game to game to mix things up.

The trick is not having a pattern when doing that (so I try to mix it up and may random some roles/wolves but hand pick others and in one game I hand picked everything, the Charmed game I believe it was).

Telle 03-16-2010 03:32 PM

So I get to break a four-way tie? Goodness.. no pressure now :)

The Jackal 03-16-2010 03:33 PM

And EF's count appears correct, with Telle yet to vote.

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:33 PM

dola: That could actually be a good discussion thread. The mechanics of selecting roles/sides.

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:33 PM

well, thought it was a dola. :)

The Jackal 03-16-2010 03:34 PM

As to picking wolves, every game I've done has been random and I don't see myself doing it differently unless I do a game with a public role or something.

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2243089)
As to picking wolves, every game I've done has been random and I don't see myself doing it differently unless I do a game with a public role or something.


So much for my theory...

Actually, not so much a theory that you had done it that way but more of something that just jumped into my head in an "I wonder" kind of way.

Telle 03-16-2010 03:39 PM

Well, I don't want to vote clap because he hasn't played in awhile and thus deserves to get past Day 1. I don't want to vote EagleFan, as a reward for being an awesome teammate last game (just a Day 1 vote thing.. this will NOT carry forward to future days). So that leaves Poli and Danny. Hmmmmm....

Telle 03-16-2010 03:43 PM

I'm going to go with Poli. Just 'cause.

vote Poli

Danny 03-16-2010 03:49 PM

Unvote Clap
Vote EF

This doesn't really change the likely result as EF is able to switch and Poli not, but let's see if anyone else bites to try and make a save

Danny 03-16-2010 03:49 PM

Unvote Clap
Vote EF

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:49 PM

Crud, wanted to make it a two horse race to see if anything shakes loose but not voting myself and don't want to vote clap on day one in his return.

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:50 PM

lol, but Danny beat me to it.

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:50 PM

well played Danny, well played.

Telle 03-16-2010 03:51 PM

Well unfortunately I have to run as I want to go to the store before my knitting group tonight. Hopefully this turns out well :)

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:51 PM

Now I have to move my vote, thus saving you from being in the mix...

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:54 PM

Something tells me that Poli is a villager. That makes it win/win for the wolves with us as the top two.

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:54 PM

Sorry about all the posts, just trying to think my way through this and get my thoughts out there now before the deadline.

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:58 PM

Here's my thought process at the moment, for analysis later in the game.


Me = vanilla

That leaves 9 players and two are most likely wolves.

Poli - 22% chance of being a wolf
Poli - 33% chance of being a roled villager (3 roled villagers, that could really help the village as the brutal villager is pretty much a crap shoot at this point)

EagleFan 03-16-2010 03:59 PM

It may be worth it to roll the dice and let the tie breaker make the call.

Danny 03-16-2010 04:00 PM

Seriously? If you're a villager, move your vote. It makes no sense not to

The Jackal 03-16-2010 04:01 PM

DEADLINE

The Jackal 03-16-2010 04:01 PM

Results in a few minutes.

Danny 03-16-2010 04:01 PM

And I understand your math, but if you know you're a villager, don't just let yourself get lynched or a possible no lynch.

EagleFan 03-16-2010 04:05 PM

I got distracted by a work question after my last post.

EagleFan 03-16-2010 04:06 PM

dola: there were also others around who could have broken the tie


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