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Young Drachma 07-07-2008 11:40 PM

1965 Expansion Draft
 
St. George folded and St. Louis was retired.

Two franchises, Seattle and St. Petersburg (FL) will be taking their place in the RL for the 1966 season. A 35-round expansion draft (each team gets one pick per round) will take place now, on October 1, 1965 in-game.

No team may lose more than 6 players in the draft.

Dark Cloud will be taking over St. Petersburg. Seattle is an AI team for right now.

Young Drachma 07-07-2008 11:42 PM

With the first pick in the expansion draft, Seattle selects 2B Clay Darby (Colorado)

Chief Rum 07-07-2008 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771354)
With the first pick in the expansion draft, Seattle selects 2B Clay Darby (Colorado)


No shock. I hope Seattle signs him to a big contract. He is a FA to be (BTW, not sure if the AI takes that into consideration--although I don't know if you would want to go onto the AI team and sign him to an extension).

I will miss having him in the lineup. And DC, you must be pissed. lol :)

Young Drachma 07-07-2008 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1771356)
No shock. I hope Seattle signs him to a big contract. He is a FA to be (BTW, not sure if the AI takes that into consideration--although I don't know if you would want to go onto the AI team and sign him to an extension).

I will miss having him in the lineup. And DC, you must be pissed. lol :)


I'm downright irate. I don't know if the AI will bother to resign him, might be a wasted pick for them. Oh well. Screw them. Lemme get this show on the road...

Young Drachma 07-07-2008 11:48 PM

Second pick of the expansion draft, St. Petersburg selects 3B Tom Wallace (Hartford)

Chief Rum 07-07-2008 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771358)
I'm downright irate. I don't know if the AI will bother to resign him, might be a wasted pick for them. Oh well. Screw them. Lemme get this show on the road...


Heh...

Yeah, as for signing him, I was just thinking this might be a situation where you want to protect the AI from itself, as of course he would be re-signed by normal GMs, but not sure if the AI does a "renegotiate" check at this point of the offseason.

Not that I would mind him being out there, of course... ;)

Young Drachma 07-07-2008 11:50 PM

2nd Round
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St. Pete: Phil Sexton, RF, Texas
Seattle: Carlos Aguilar, RP, Colorado

Chief Rum 07-07-2008 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771359)
Second pick of the expansion draft, St. Petersburg selects 3B Tom Wallace (Hartford)


I can't see the available list, of course, but that seems like a solid pick. Pales next to Darby, but not much to do about that.

Young Drachma 07-07-2008 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1771360)
Heh...

Yeah, as for signing him, I was just thinking this might be a situation where you want to protect the AI from itself, as of course he would be re-signed by normal GMs, but not sure if the AI does a "renegotiate" check at this point of the offseason.

Not that I would mind him being out there, of course... ;)


Yeah, I think I will protect them from themselves, just for the sake of consistency and such. I extended him for another year at the same rate as this year.

Alan T 07-07-2008 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771361)
2nd Round
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St. Pete: Phil Sexton, RF, Texas
Seattle: Carlos Aguilar, RP, Colorado


Good thing they got that Relief pitcher in round two!

Chief Rum 07-07-2008 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771361)
2nd Round
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St. Pete: Phil Sexton, RF, Texas
Seattle: Carlos Aguilar, RP, Colorado


Huh. Didn't see that coming.

Chief Rum 07-07-2008 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771363)
Yeah, I think I will protect them from themselves, just for the sake of consistency and such. I extended him for another year at the same rate as this year.


Now Darby's pissed. He wanted a 3-year, $40 M deal. :)

Young Drachma 07-07-2008 11:53 PM

3rd Round
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Seattle: Eldon Corfield, C, Ann Arbor
St. Pete: Quincy Christian, SS, Ann Arbor

Young Drachma 07-07-2008 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1771364)
Good thing they got that Relief pitcher in round two!


I know, right? Who needs a possible closer that early? Better them than me, I guess.

Chief Rum 07-07-2008 11:54 PM

BTW, I actually like the Sexton pick better than the Wallace pick, not that it matters back to back.

Young Drachma 07-07-2008 11:55 PM

That said, 30 players was a good number. Decent talent out there, but nothing so overwhelming to where it's almost not even fair.

Chief Rum 07-07-2008 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771367)
3rd Round
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Seattle: Eldon Corfield, C, Ann Arbor
St. Pete: Quincy Christian, SS, Ann Arbor


Corfield is solid. Christian is the first prospect taken.

Chief Rum 07-07-2008 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771372)
That said, 30 players was a good number. Decent talent out there, but nothing so overwhelming to where it's almost not even fair.


And a solid free agent class with the St. Louis and St. George players out there and a lot of cap room. Yeah, it's a solid way to start as a franchise.

Speaking of which, have you tried posting a message in OT to see if anyone was interested in taking it over?

Young Drachma 07-07-2008 11:57 PM

4th Round
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St. Pete: John Ford, C, Rio Grande
Seattle: Wendell Evans, LF, Valdosta

Young Drachma 07-07-2008 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1771375)
And a solid free agent class with the St. Louis and St. George players out there and a lot of cap room. Yeah, it's a solid way to start as a franchise.

Speaking of which, have you tried posting a message in OT to see if anyone was interested in taking it over?


I hadn't done that yet. I wanted to get the team built first, mostly for simplicity purposes. Two humans doing an expansion draft might be a disaster unless coordinated perfectly. But I think after this is over, I'll go in and see if anyone might want to jump in head first right now with us. Especially now that the game is out...

Young Drachma 07-08-2008 12:00 AM

5th Round
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Seattle: Anthony Walker, 3B, New York
St. Pete: Koki Nakamura, 3B, Ann Arbor

Chief Rum 07-08-2008 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771376)
4th Round
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St. Pete: John Ford, C, Rio Grande
Seattle: Wendell Evans, LF, Valdosta


C prospect with defensive ability. Seattle picks its cleanup hitter. Evans has 31, 31, 27 and 21 HRs the past four seasons. He and Darby are a nice pair in the middle of the lineup.

Young Drachma 07-08-2008 12:02 AM

After 5 rounds
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PLAYERS LOST
Ann Arbor 3
Colorado 2
Hartford 1
Texas 1
Rio Grande 1
Valdosta 1
New York 1

Young Drachma 07-08-2008 12:04 AM

6th Round
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St. Pete: Chuck Allen, SP, Colorado
Seattle: Enrique Lopez, 2B, Ann Arbor

Chief Rum 07-08-2008 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771380)
5th Round
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Seattle: Anthony Walker, 3B, New York
St. Pete: Koki Nakamura, 3B, Ann Arbor


Walker is close to ready for the bigs. NY's #6 overall prospect.

Nakamura is also a AAAA guy who is close to ready. Probably shouldn't start this year, but maybe next year. Three from Ann Arbor already. #10 ANN prospect.

Alan T 07-08-2008 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771376)
4th Round
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St. Pete: John Ford, C, Rio Grande
Seattle: Wendell Evans, LF, Valdosta


No suprise with Evans. I couldn't re-sign him as he wanted 10 mil a year. Guess he won't be getting that money regardless now :)

Young Drachma 07-08-2008 12:06 AM

7th Round
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Seattle: Nicholas Armstrong, LF, New York
St. Pete: Jose Gonzalez, SP, Boston

Chief Rum 07-08-2008 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771383)
6th Round
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St. Pete: Chuck Allen, SP, Colorado
Seattle: Enrique Lopez, 2B, Ann Arbor


Chuck Allen is solid. Didn't break into my top prospects, but a good pickup still. Wow, three from my squad now.

Ann Arbor gets hit again, #4 now. Lopez is decent, but is probably long term just a low grade starter or a career backup. #9 ANN prospect

Young Drachma 07-08-2008 12:08 AM

Man, if only Bryan Hughes wasn't due so much damn money...

Chief Rum 07-08-2008 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1771385)
No suprise with Evans. I couldn't re-sign him as he wanted 10 mil a year. Guess he won't be getting that money regardless now :)


Ah, you're Valdosta, Alan? I forgot. I am sure DC will sign Evans to a one-year holdover deal, too.

Alan T 07-08-2008 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771389)
Man, if only Bryan Hughes wasn't due so much damn money...


That is the only reason I left him available. No way I would have left him unprotected if he was cheaper :)

Alan T 07-08-2008 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1771390)
Ah, you're Valdosta, Alan? I forgot. I am sure DC will sign Evans to a one-year holdover deal, too.



Yeah, that is what I meant about Evans not getting the money he wanted. If I could have signed him to a 1 year hold over I would have. No way I could afford 10 mil for him.

Chief Rum 07-08-2008 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771386)
7th Round
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Seattle: Nicholas Armstrong, LF, New York
St. Pete: Jose Gonzalez, SP, Boston


Armstrong is a good power hitter and he's ready now. #5 NY prospect.

Gonzalez is a better prospect than Allen. Also didn't break into Boston's prospect list. He has control issues that will keep him in the minors until that develops, but he could end up a solid #2 or #3.

Young Drachma 07-08-2008 12:11 AM

8th Round
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St. Pete: Lyndon Murphy, 2B, Hartford
Seattle: Andrew Dinsdale, SP, Long Beach

Chief Rum 07-08-2008 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1771392)
Yeah, that is what I meant about Evans not getting the money he wanted. If I could have signed him to a 1 year hold over I would have. No way I could afford 10 mil for him.


Yup, same with me and Darby. I guess if St. Pete does well, the new owner owes us. ;)

Young Drachma 07-08-2008 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1771395)
Yup, same with me and Darby. I guess if St. Pete does well, the new owner owes us. ;)


For real. This team is really sweetened up for someone to take it. They're expansion in name only.

Young Drachma 07-08-2008 12:16 AM

9th Round
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Seattle: Ismael Perez, 3B, Valdosta
St. Pete: Ben Gibbs, 1B, Colorado

Chief Rum 07-08-2008 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771394)
8th Round
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St. Pete: Lyndon Murphy, 2B, Hartford
Seattle: Andrew Dinsdale, SP, Long Beach


Murphy is an interesting prospect. Not sure if I like the dual okay CON and POW, but GAP is through the roof, he can defend decently well, and he can run. Second player from HAR, didn't make muns' prospect list.

Dinsdale is the first player from LBI. 12-13 last year, 3.38 ERA, 244 K in 233 IP. That's the good. The bad? His ratings, 84 STU, 50 MOV, 50 CON. Look out batters!

Young Drachma 07-08-2008 12:18 AM

10th Round
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St. Pete: Marvin Shields, SS, New York
Seattle: Don Roberts, LF, Boston

Alan T 07-08-2008 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771402)
9th Round
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Seattle: Ismael Perez, 3B, Valdosta
St. Pete: Ben Gibbs, 1B, Colorado


Perez is a horrible pick. Bad hitting 3B that is only getting worse.

Chief Rum 07-08-2008 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771402)
9th Round
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Seattle: Ismael Perez, 3B, Valdosta
St. Pete: Ben Gibbs, 1B, Colorado


Seattle take's Valdosta's starting 3B, probably with Alan's blessing. Decent player, terrific GAP ability. .263-9-62 last year.

St. Pete takes my cleanup hitter, as I planned. I now I have money available for spending in free agency. I also have a huge hole in my lineup. Gibbs is one of the best (even at $13 M per year). 90 HRs the past four years--and I think he underachieved. Fourth player from COL.

Chief Rum 07-08-2008 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1771405)
Perez is a horrible pick. Bad hitting 3B that is only getting worse.


Shhh! DC is right here you know! :D

Alan T 07-08-2008 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1771407)
Shhh! DC is right here you know! :D


DC didn't pick him did he? I think the CPU did right? If not, then well I still think it is a horrible pick :)

Young Drachma 07-08-2008 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1771406)
Seattle take's Valdosta's starting 3B, probably with Alan's blessing. Decent player, terrific GAP ability. .263-9-62 last year.

St. Pete takes my cleanup hitter, as I planned. I now I have money available for spending in free agency. I also have a huge hole in my lineup. Gibbs is one of the best (even at $13 M per year). 90 HRs the past four years--and I think he underachieved. Fourth player from COL.


I couldn't resist. Plus, it's only one season. I figure it's worth the cash even if he underachieves.

Young Drachma 07-08-2008 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1771409)
DC didn't pick him did he? I think the CPU did right? If not, then well I still think it is a horrible pick :)


Nah AI did it. I'm not that dumb. ;)

Young Drachma 07-08-2008 12:23 AM

After 10 rounds
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PLAYERS LOST
Ann Arbor 4
Colorado 4
New York 3
Valdosta 2
Boston 2
Hartford 2
Texas 1
Rio Grande 1
LBI 1

Chief Rum 07-08-2008 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771404)
10th Round
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St. Pete: Marvin Shields, SS, New York
Seattle: Don Roberts, LF, Boston


Decent speed and defense, but Shields is a fringe major league with maybe moderate power. Horrible pick for St. Pete. NY's third player.

Huge contract, huge ability. Roberts is one of the league's best. Boston probably left him open for salary relief like I did with Gibbs. Second Boston player. Roberts had an awful year last year (by his standards), but he hit .280-33-90 two years ago.

Chief Rum 07-08-2008 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1771410)
I couldn't resist. Plus, it's only one season. I figure it's worth the cash even if he underachieves.


heh, I got it switched around. You're St.P and the AI is SEA. Okay, then you owe Alan and me big. :D

And, yeah, one year is nothing too bad to go with, especially with an open cap of roster to fill.

Chief Rum 07-08-2008 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1771409)
DC didn't pick him did he? I think the CPU did right? If not, then well I still think it is a horrible pick :)


Yeah, you're right. I got myself switched around. Which means DC made the horrible Shields pick. :lol:

Young Drachma 07-08-2008 12:28 AM

11th Round
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Seattle: Charles Lane, 1B, Hartford
St. Pete: Greg Reid, CF, Hartford


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