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Sweed 10-14-2009 10:27 AM

Alright boyz, here we go! FM 2010 first impressions thread
 
FM demo is out early, downloading now from Steam. Damn have to go back to work but it will be waiting for me when I get home.

FM 2010 Gold Demo - Available Now! - Sports Interactive Community

Steam release is only about 3 hours away, almost time to play:)

Flasch186 10-14-2009 10:33 AM

shit.

Sweed 10-14-2009 10:39 AM

God I love Steam. Already 50% downloaded in approx 10 minutes. Won't have time to even open it up before having to go back to work. Maybe I can leave early?:D

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 10:43 AM

AWESOME!!!

guess i won't be playing civ IV tonight...lol

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 10:46 AM

maybe i can walk home on my lunch break, get my laptop, walk back, and download and install it while i'm at work this afternoon?

LOL

Toddzilla 10-14-2009 11:00 AM

The Vanilla demo downloads pretty quick...

Will the first person to get the demo installed please ping me - I want to show you something :)

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toddzilla (Post 2143097)
The Vanilla demo downloads pretty quick...

Will the first person to get the demo installed please ping me - I want to show you something :)


what? don't leave us in suspense!

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 11:33 AM

i want to take the rest of the day off...really badly

Flasch186 10-14-2009 11:34 AM

I cant get steam to DL it into it's client.

Galaril 10-14-2009 11:35 AM

For anyone that has been following this one's dev. Is the MLS fairly well represented? Can you play as an international team coach and schedule friendlies more easily. I remember a few versions back this was not well done but have not played in a couple of years since.

watravaler 10-14-2009 11:37 AM

How many "game" years can you play with the demo? Is it simply 6 months? If so, why do companies do this? It pisses me off, and I never buy the game! I love the "play full version for 3-10 days", those are the demos that always pull me in and force me to buy the game. Anyway, sorry for the rant, have fun y'all! I'm sure the game is beyond excellent, regardless of the limitations of the demo...

SirFozzie 10-14-2009 11:38 AM

I exited and reloaded steam and was able to install

MLS is not one of quickstarts that I can see, Galaril, so I can't give ya the good word.

SirFozzie 10-14-2009 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watravaler (Post 2143116)
How many "game" years can you play with the demo? Is it simply 6 months? If so, why do companies do this? It pisses me off, and I never buy the game! I love the "play full version for 3-10 days", those are demos that always pull me in and force me to buy the game. Anyway, sorry for the rant, have fun y'all!


yes, it's six months. That's actually a long time with regards to thegame world, and it avoids having them risk having a full game out there that can be just hex-edited or otherwise cracked to avoid such 3-10 days thing.

SirFozzie 10-14-2009 11:43 AM

Started a demo as Birmingham (picked to just barely avoid relegation at 17th)

Man, I just signed Pablo Contreras, for 1.8 Million pounds, and the press conference was a fucking grilling, they look to really have expanded that.. got grilled multiple times if I thought this was a coup, etcetera, if I'm worried about spending such a large portion of my transfer funds on a player, could he be a flop, he doesn't speak english.. etc.. etc..

watravaler 10-14-2009 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 2143119)
yes, it's six months. That's actually a long time with regards to thegame world, and it avoids having them risk having a full game out there that can be just hex-edited or otherwise cracked to avoid such 3-10 days thing.


Never thought about the "crack" problem, makes sense...oh well...I'll probably buy it at the first price drop anyway.

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watravaler (Post 2143116)
How many "game" years can you play with the demo? Is it simply 6 months? If so, why do companies do this? It pisses me off, and I never buy the game! I love the "play full version for 3-10 days", those are the demos that always pull me in and force me to buy the game. Anyway, sorry for the rant, have fun y'all! I'm sure the game is beyond excellent, regardless of the limitations of the demo...


typically copy protection reasons. in FM's case because otherwise people had cracked the copy protection of the demo to play forever and never purchased the game. that's what happened with SI's version of EHM and why its sales suffered.

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 11:51 AM

damn you foz for beating me to it. and double damn-you for being home and being able to play!

SirFozzie 10-14-2009 11:53 AM

FYVM*, DT, when I go to work in 20 minutes, I'm there till 10 :)


* (yeah, it means what you think it means)

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 11:58 AM

hahaha - well that sucks!

you can IM with me all night and i'll tell you about new features and such if you want...

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 12:01 PM

you know what would be awesome? savegame compatability between FM (desktop) and FM (handheld).

SirFozzie 10-14-2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2143136)
hahaha - well that sucks!

you can IM with me all night and i'll tell you about new features and such if you want...


Can I feed you into a woodchipper set to puree instead?

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 2143141)
Can I feed you into a woodchipper set to puree instead?


or i wont if you want...

SirFozzie 10-14-2009 12:17 PM

Hee hee :)

BTW, nice new option under squad "Make available for Reserves until Match Fit"

Oilers9911 10-14-2009 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watravaler (Post 2143116)
How many "game" years can you play with the demo? Is it simply 6 months? If so, why do companies do this? It pisses me off, and I never buy the game! I love the "play full version for 3-10 days", those are the demos that always pull me in and force me to buy the game. Anyway, sorry for the rant, have fun y'all! I'm sure the game is beyond excellent, regardless of the limitations of the demo...


If you can't get a feel for the game and make a decision based on 6 months of game time I don't know what to tell you. That is plenty of time.

Ronnie Dobbs2 10-14-2009 12:22 PM

6 months of game time in FM is also many many many hours of game time. I doubt I could really do 6 months in 3 to 10 days unless I barricaded myself in my room.

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 12:28 PM

i'll probably do 2 6 month mini-games between now and when the game is released. but i spend way too much time in front of my laptop

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 2143160)
Hee hee :)

BTW, nice new option under squad "Make available for Reserves until Match Fit"


i wonder if it'll work. i love that type of option.


i also wonder if leagues other than england (thinking italy where i love to play) will have legit reserve-leagues setup this time around

Schmidty 10-14-2009 12:45 PM

I've never gotten into the past games, but yet again, I'll give this one a try.

Big Fo 10-14-2009 12:49 PM

David Silva it tearing it up on his Man Utd debut. The 3D match engine looks a lot better, something I couldn't really tell from the small, low-quality youtube videos on the blog.

Toddzilla 10-14-2009 12:51 PM

On the main screen, click on Credits, and look at "Additional External Testing", the first name.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

cartman 10-14-2009 01:34 PM

I like the redone interface. The calendar at the top is a nice feature.

Marc Vaughan 10-14-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watravaler (Post 2143116)
How many "game" years can you play with the demo? Is it simply 6 months? If so, why do companies do this? It pisses me off, and I never buy the game! I love the "play full version for 3-10 days", those are the demos that always pull me in and force me to buy the game. Anyway, sorry for the rant, have fun y'all! I'm sure the game is beyond excellent, regardless of the limitations of the demo...


FM isn't a game where you typically 'blast' through multiple seasons quickly - a six (game) month demo is equivalent to quite a few hours play through normal practice.

The reason for limiting the game in this manner is mainly to prevent pirates from hacking the game into a full version, simply put the demo has various parts of the codebase physically stripped from it (all the season updating code amongst other thing).

Marc Vaughan 10-14-2009 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2143169)
i wonder if it'll work. i love that type of option.
i also wonder if leagues other than england (thinking italy where i love to play) will have legit reserve-leagues setup this time around



Please bear in mind that those leagues without reserve leagues haven't got them for a very valid reason (ie. they don't have them irl).

Galaril 10-14-2009 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan (Post 2143220)
Please bear in mind that those leagues without reserve leagues haven't got them for a very valid reason (ie. they don't have them irl).


Marc, maybe you could elaborate a little on these two parts of the full game MLS and international play as a fulltime job in game.

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan (Post 2143220)
Please bear in mind that those leagues without reserve leagues haven't got them for a very valid reason (ie. they don't have them irl).



oh i know. it's just frustrating in some sense - i wish you could "set up a league for your reserve team" or something in those countries then. I mean what i end up doing usually is going and manually setting up a whole season's worth of scheduled games for my reserves in order to try to keep the guys match-fit.

i honestly don't know for certain, but i imagine teams in those countries must do the same sort of thing. the difference is that they have underlings to say "go arrange matches for our reserves against the local beer-league team" or whoever and it gets done. In FM I'm left scouring the country-lists for semi-pro teams to keep my reserve guys fit.

Either they should get "reserve team games" or my coaches should do a better job keeping them more game-fit. i dunno.

Passacaglia 10-14-2009 04:31 PM

I'm with ya, DT. If your assistant manager can schedule friendlies for your A team, why can't he schedule friendlies for the other squads?

Anyway, I'll be keeping an eye out. Since I'm a cheater, I'll only get it if there's some version of FM Scout.

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 04:50 PM

way to say what i was trying to say in about a million less words Pass.

I'm sure there'll be an FM-scout version out soon. Don't be a cheater though. Fay on you!

path12 10-14-2009 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2143418)
way to say what i was trying to say in about a million less words Pass.

I'm sure there'll be an FM-scout version out soon. Don't be a cheater though. Fay on you!


Who is Fay?

MacroGuru 10-14-2009 05:00 PM

Downloading now....I fly to MN tomorrow for work, I will play on my 2 plane flights I have...or until my battery dies.

SirFozzie 10-14-2009 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 2143426)
Who is Fay?


He means Fie on you!

Passacaglia 10-14-2009 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 2143426)
Who is Fay?


Fay is (was) my grandmother. I'm getting some slight pressure from the family to name our kid that if it's a girl. That's just not going to happen as a first name. As a middle name....we'll see, it's still not doing the kid any favors, plus we had been thinking of using lurker's last name as its middle name, and her family already has a middle name that they traditionally use. Sigh. How DT knew about any of that, though, is beyond me.

Anyway, none of the more recent versions have a good enough Scout program for my cheating needs, so I still play FM06. :cool:

Icy 10-14-2009 05:23 PM

I promised myself to not to download the demo, as it just makes more impatient about the real game but.... i'm downloading it at 1.2mbps (nice connection from steam btw).

There is something that i hate from FM demos and it's not the 6 months limit but that only quick starts are included.

I know you can continue your demo career in the final game, but the problem is that the demo only has quickstarts of one league, where you can't select the leagues you want to load, the database size etc.

Why can't you make all the create new game options available, but keeping the game ending after 6 months? You still will avoid piracy but we would be able to start new games that we can continue in the full version without any limitation, also testing the different database options.

FM requires you to invest a lot of time in your team, and i hate to start again in 15 days.

Big Fo 10-14-2009 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icy (Post 2143446)
FM requires you to invest a lot of time in your team, and i hate to start again in 15 days.


I skip a lot of the stuff I do when taking over a new team in the full game like hiring/firing staff and making my own training regimes. I just buy/sell a few players and play some matches.

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 06:32 PM

yeah - i don't spend as much time on a demo game start as a full game start. and even in the full game, my first game i usually just screw around until the first patch comes out.

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 2143436)
He means Fie on you!


yeah...yeah i do. :banghead:

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 07:08 PM

the new UI is....wow. taking some getting used to.

Flasch186 10-14-2009 07:55 PM

so slow of a DL, cant get steam to DL it so Im doing the torrent thing and apparently so is the rest of the world.

DaddyTorgo 10-14-2009 07:57 PM

steam's not downloading? try exiting and restarting it...sometimes the text of the DL notification just seems to hang up

sovereignstar 10-14-2009 08:02 PM

At first glance, backroom advice is awesome.

sovereignstar 10-14-2009 08:06 PM

Don't forget to check out the dark skin that's included this go around!


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