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Young Drachma 01-09-2012 12:37 PM

1841 Season Thread
 
SPRING TRAINING STANDINGS
NL
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Milwaukee 17-7
Phoenix 15-9
Chicago 14-10
Los Angeles 11-13
Brooklyn 8-16
Carolina 7-17

AL
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Rio Grande 16-8
Seattle 13-11
Philadelphia 13-11
Memphis 12-12
San Diego 11-13
Pennsylvania 7-17

Young Drachma 01-09-2012 12:41 PM

Remember this season we're doing the trial full-season standings, so there won't be a half-season champ. 1st half will be simmed on Wednesday, draft simmed on Thursday and you can make deals that day or sign any remaining free agents via public auction and then Friday we'll do the 2nd half, with the post-season sim on Monday.

The file is up.

Young Drachma 01-11-2012 05:36 PM

I'll be simming the 1st half tonight. So get those exports in before around say 10pm eastern time. If you need more time than that, let me know.

Woo new season!

ShoelessJ03 01-11-2012 08:11 PM

I forgot to export but I think my lineups are set so I should be ok.

Young Drachma 01-11-2012 09:14 PM

All right, it's time to party.

JetsIn06 01-11-2012 10:10 PM

First season at the helm. Not going to be pretty, methinks.

Young Drachma 01-11-2012 10:24 PM

Ok, I got distracted. Now really running the 1st half. :)

Young Drachma 01-11-2012 10:31 PM

STANDINGS AS OF APRIL 1, 1841

Standings won't be prettified, because my laptop is running to slow for that now.

NL
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Phoenix 9-2
Brooklyn 7-4
Milwaukee 6-5
Los Angeles 5-6
Chicago 5-6
Carolina 1-10

AL
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Memphis 8-3
San Diego 6-5
Rio Grande 6-5
Philadelphia 5-6
Pennsylvania 5-6
Seattle 3-8

Young Drachma 01-11-2012 10:34 PM

STANDINGS AS OF MAY 1, 1841

NL
Phoenix 27-11
Milwaukee 22-15 4.5 GB
Brooklyn 19-19 8 GB
Chicago 13-26 14.5 GB
Los Angeles 11-26 15.5 GB
Carolina 6-31 20.5 GB

AL
Philadelphia 28-11
San Diego 23-14 4 GB
Rio Grande 22-16 5.5 GB
Memphis 21-16 6 GB
Pennsylvania 17-20 10 GB
Seattle 17-21 10.5 GB

Young Drachma 01-11-2012 10:47 PM

I knew Seattle would be bad, I didn't quite think we'd be LAST PLACE bad. But I guess that's a lesson learned. Heh.

Armando Cuarenta of Carolina is hitting .400.

Jerry Price is playing rejuvenated baseball it seems in Philly, hitting 12 HRs so far and is on pace for a 50 HR season which would be our first.

Young Drachma 01-11-2012 10:49 PM

STANDINGS AS OF JUNE 1, 1841
NATIONWIDE LEAGUE
Phoenix 42-24
Milwaukee 38-26 3 GB
Brooklyn 35-30 6.5 GB
Chicago 23-44 19.5 GB
Carolina 19-45 22 GB
Los Angeles 16-48 25 GB

ASSOCIATED LEAGUE
Philadelphia 44-22
Rio Grande 40-26 4 GB
San Diego 36-29 7.5 GB
Memphis 35-30 8.5 GB
Pennsylvania 33-32 10.5 GB
Seattle 30-35 13.5 GB

Young Drachma 01-11-2012 10:52 PM

Kelvin Boyd of Brooklyn is hitting .401
Cecil Bryant of Brooklyn is hitting .397

Miguel Ramos of Memphis is leading the AL with .333 batting average. How is it that the NL's best hitter is doing better than the DH league's best hitters? Wacky stuff.

Kenny Barnes (PHL) and Andres Miranda (PHX) lead their respective leagues with 10 wins. Chicago's Nelson Remedios leads all comers with 143 strikeouts thus far. And he's a free agent after this season...

Young Drachma 01-11-2012 10:58 PM

STANDINGS OF JUNE 20, 1841
NATIONWIDE LEAGUE
Phoenix 52-30
Milwaukee 50-32 2 GB
Brooklyn 43-39 10 GB
Chicago 30-55 24 GB
Carolina 29-54 24 GB
Los Angeles 21-61 31.5 GB

ASSOCIATED LEAGUE
Rio Grande 52-31
Philadelphia 50-34 2.5 GB
San Diego 45-38 7 GB
Memphis 45-38 7 GB
Pennyslvania 40-42 11.5 GB
Seattle 40-44 12.5 GB

We're at the all-star break now and so, I'll prep the file and get it uploaded. You'll want to do your draft lists and export tomorrow for that. Also, the trade block is open until tomorrow night too. Finally, if you would like to sign someone in the free agent pool for the 2nd half, post your public auction bid in this thread as well.

Oh one more thing, if you'd like to create a legacy player to start using in the 2nd half, you'll want to drop me a note and send along your player prototype now. If you decide you're not going to play ball right now (though I'd strongly encourage you to try it. Seriously, it'll be fun. Trust me...) you reserve the right to add your franchise/legacy player later on. I'll be doing a new feature where I track said players throughout their careers each year, so we'll know what teams have them and which ones don't.

I'll let you know when the file is up.

Jack Raden 01-11-2012 10:58 PM

Quote:

Miguel Ramos of Memphis is leading the AL with .333 batting average.

Not bad for a rookie! Looking forward to this kid being part of the Memphis squad for years.

Young Drachma 01-11-2012 11:13 PM

File is up! Draft tomorrow, 2nd half Friday. Still anyone's game really with a strong second half. And in case you need an infusion of possible talent, Seattle is open to talking. :)

JetsIn06 01-12-2012 12:07 AM

Weird, says no new file on server. I'll try again in the AM.

Young Drachma 01-12-2012 02:10 AM

I've fixed it. The file name at home generates lower case, at work it's all upper case and some how it causes a problem with the download so I need to make the file name on my home one the same as the work one. Anyway, it's fixed now.

Young Drachma 01-12-2012 12:25 PM

Cole will be taking over the dormant Carolina Kings franchise starting immediately. Welcome him aboard!

ShoelessJ03 01-12-2012 05:51 PM

Milwaukee -
LF Rudy Johnson
1 year @ 12.5 mil

Ramzavail 01-12-2012 06:03 PM

San Diego

Spencer Miller OF - 1 year @ 5m
Tom Glenn SP - 1 year @ 2m

Jack Raden 01-12-2012 06:33 PM

Memphis

1B Mark Davis - 1 year @ 1m

Young Drachma 01-12-2012 07:36 PM

Seattle
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OF Spencer Miller 2 yr/$14m

JTSMOOTH 01-12-2012 09:17 PM

Nathan Graham 2 years @ 1 mil per

Young Drachma 01-12-2012 09:27 PM

Running after doing the signings for mid-season FA.

ShoelessJ03 01-12-2012 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 2594733)
Running after doing the signings for mid-season FA.


These mid season signings... can we pm you instructions to get them in the lineup for the second half sim?

Young Drachma 01-12-2012 10:54 PM

Draft is run and file is up. Seattle, San Diego and Brooklyn have added legacy players who we'll profile once the HTML is up so you learn more about them. Second half is tomorrow night!

JTSMOOTH 01-12-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShoelessJ03 (Post 2594745)
These mid season signings... can we pm you instructions to get them in the lineup for the second half sim?


I think they will appear on your roster once the post draft file is done tonight.

Young Drachma 01-12-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShoelessJ03 (Post 2594745)
These mid season signings... can we pm you instructions to get them in the lineup for the second half sim?


You can do it now for tomorrow night's sim. But yeah if you don't have game access then sure, PM me and I'll fix you up. That's why it's allowed for the 2nd half though, because you get a night to alter your roster to insert those players.

JTSMOOTH 01-12-2012 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 2594746)
Draft is run and file is up. Seattle, San Diego and Brooklyn have added legacy players who we'll profile once the HTML is up so you learn more about them. Second half is tomorrow night!


So I'm looking at the 3 legacy players added and it sure looks like all 3 have far more than 100 pts and all 3 look to be star players. Did you change your mind on these parameters or did I misunderstand your 100 pts and no star players post?

Also was I late on posting a bid for Nathan Graham?

Young Drachma 01-12-2012 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTSMOOTH (Post 2594750)
So I'm looking at the 3 legacy players added and it sure looks like all 3 have far more than 100 pts and all 3 look to be star players. Did you change your mind on these parameters or did I misunderstand your 100 pts and no star players post?

Also was I late on posting a bid for Nathan Graham?


I wasn't especially clear on the 100 points, that's why I tried to clarify it by saying "just give me a MLB historical/present parallel or give me stats. In each case, folks gave me stats and I built a player around those parameters.

I tried to overexplain it in the original post. The idea was to create a legacy player. A person who'll be with your team forever, who is a captain-type who will be with your franchise throughout his career (unless someone wants to be known for dealing Babe Ruth). If he sucks, that'd defeat the purpose. :) I just meant they wouldn't be maxed out superstars.

As for Graham, he should've been added. But it seems I missed him, I'm reopening the game to fix that now. Give me a few minutes to reupload the new file with him in it.

Young Drachma 01-12-2012 11:36 PM

Ok, new file is up with Graham.

JTSMOOTH 01-12-2012 11:38 PM

So I can pick any player past or present and basically have him added to my team and not have to pay him a salary for 15 seasons?

How do the secondary ratings like speed and defense get determined?

Do you pick a position for the player to play or is it based on the position played by the player who is doing the modeling?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 2594752)
I wasn't especially clear on the 100 points, that's why I tried to clarify it by saying "just give me a MLB historical/present parallel or give me stats. In each case, folks gave me stats and I built a player around those parameters.

I tried to overexplain it in the original post. The idea was to create a legacy player. A person who'll be with your team forever, who is a captain-type who will be with your franchise throughout his career (unless someone wants to be known for dealing Babe Ruth). If he sucks, that'd defeat the purpose. :) I just meant they wouldn't be maxed out superstars.

As for Graham, he should've been added. But it seems I missed him, I'm reopening the game to fix that now. Give me a few minutes to reupload the new file with him in it.


JetsIn06 01-13-2012 12:20 AM

Okay, I'm new here. All of you guys posting players and contracts...what is up with that? Is that how we re-sign guys?

Young Drachma 01-13-2012 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetsIn06 (Post 2594763)
Okay, I'm new here. All of you guys posting players and contracts...what is up with that? Is that how we re-sign guys?


Sorry for not being explaining this for our new folks.

during the mid-season break between 1st and 2nd half, you post anyone you want to sign via public auction. Only major leaguers that you will put on your roster in the 2nd half. Can't be someone who sits in the minors. The game doesn't ink deals fast enough during those few days we have off, so that's why it's done manually.

It's the only time we do that out of game, otherwise, it's always in-game.

Young Drachma 01-13-2012 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTSMOOTH (Post 2594754)
So I can pick any player past or present and basically have him added to my team and not have to pay him a salary for 15 seasons?

How do the secondary ratings like speed and defense get determined?

Do you pick a position for the player to play or is it based on the position played by the player who is doing the modeling?


Yes, basically.

Think of it as create-a-player in your favorite video game. You PM me with as much or as little detail and then I go to town. Stats are easy because OOTP will build a player around those. Defense and speed, you indicate as well or at least the guys have so far. (He's speedy or strong defense to make up for his lack of pop, etc.) or they just send me a stat line.

ShoelessJ03 01-13-2012 10:31 AM

My personal opinion is that these legacy players should indeed count against the salary cap. Especially so if they are going to be impact type players.

Maybe they could have reduced contracts or something to that effect but getting a free star player defeats the purpose of having a salary cap.

Young Drachma 01-13-2012 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShoelessJ03 (Post 2594890)
My personal opinion is that these legacy players should indeed count against the salary cap. Especially so if they are going to be impact type players.

Maybe they could have reduced contracts or something to that effect but getting a free star player defeats the purpose of having a salary cap.


I don't want to have to deal with the accounting. The purpose of these players is to give each team a "signpost" player that might increase immersion. With team name changes, owner swaps and the natural up and down that leagues have, sometimes it can be hard to keep consistency with all of that. Having a player who is "always" around for a decade or so, is a nice way to return to a bygone era when players stayed with one team.

So you can imagine that these guys DO have max contracts, but account for them and trying to subtract them from the salary cap is more work than it's worth. So it's not that they "don't" have a salary, it's that the salary they have isn't relevant for our cap purposes. So we could say that their salary is equal to 95% of the top three players in the league at the time of their signing, but...again, I don't want to have to spend time subtracting that from each person's cap, because it's more work than it's worth just to say "they have a value."

And it's only one. There won't be any additions to this or anything like that. It was just meant to be fun and since everyone gets one, it doesn't negate competition and it's not basketball so one guy isn't going to change the game that much.

ShoelessJ03 01-13-2012 10:47 AM

I definitely understand what you're saying about not wanting to police every legacy players contract. Wouldn't an easy work around just be to set each legacy player contract to like say 10 million per year at the time of creation?

Young Drachma 01-13-2012 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShoelessJ03 (Post 2594906)
I definitely understand what you're saying about not wanting to police every legacy players contract. Wouldn't an easy work around just be to set each legacy player contract to like say 10 million per year at the time of creation?


Okay, I'll post this in the legacy player thread.

Each legacy contract will be permanently be 15 years/$300 million or $20m per year. I'm not going to edit in game, because $100m is easy to police and look at. But if a legacy player somehow gets dealt or is released, that figure will begin to count against a $100m cap. So long as they stay with their original team, it doesn't get calculated. Then I'd edit their salary in-game from that time, as their contract would be immediately cap tied.

So then it doesn't raise the cap, but incentives the purpose of having a legacy player (and lowers the temptation significantly of a team not doing well thinking of dealing their legacy player for a haul.)

Cole 01-13-2012 12:25 PM

Bad start for me in the league as before I headed off to work I didn't have a chance to send in a draft list ... A poor fielded shortstop with no power isn't exactly who I would have wanted with the first overall pick. Oh well....

Young Drachma 01-14-2012 01:08 AM

JULY 1, 1841

NL
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Phoenix 57-33
Milwaukee 52-37 4.5 GB
Brooklyn 47-43 10 GB
Chicago 34-57 23.5 GB
Carolina 30-59 26.5 GB
Los Angeles 25-64 31.5 GB

AL
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Rio Grande 56-34
Philadelphia 52-39 4.5 GB
San Diego 50-39 5.5 GB
Memphis 47-42 8.5 GB
Seattle 46-44 10 GB
Pennsylvania 42-47 13.5 GB

Young Drachma 01-14-2012 01:11 AM

AUGUST 1, 1841

NL
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Phoenix 71-47
Milwaukee 66-51 4.5 GB
Brooklyn 56-62 15 GB
Chicago 43-76 28.5 GB
Los Angeles 40-77 30.5 GB
Carolina 40-77 30.5 GB

AL
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San Diego 72-45
Rio Grande 69-49 3.5 GB
Philadelphia 68-51 5 GB
Memphis 63-54 9 GB
Seattle 63-55 9.5 GB
Pennsylvania 55-62 17 GB

Young Drachma 01-14-2012 01:13 AM

SEPTEMBER 1, 1941
NL
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Phoenix 90-56
Milwaukee 82-64 8 GB
Brooklyn 70-76 20 GB
Chicago 56-90 34 GB
Carolina 52-94 38 GB
Los Angeles 46-100 44 GB

AL
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San Diego 87-59 -
Rio Grande 87-59 -
Philadelphia 83-63 4 GB
Seattle 79-67 8 GB
Memphis 76-70 11 GB
Pennsylvania 68-78 19 GB

Young Drachma 01-14-2012 01:19 AM

FINAL 1841 STANDINGS
NL
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Phoenix 101-61
Milwaukee 92-70 9 GB
Brooklyn 79-83 22 GB
Chicago 64-98 37 GB
Carolina 55-107 46 GB
Los Angeles 53-109 48 GB

AL
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San Diego 98-64
Rio Grande 93-69 5 GB
Philadelphia 93-69 5 GB
Seattle 88-74 10 GB
Memphis 84-78 14 GB
Pennsylvania 72-90 26 GB

Young Drachma 01-14-2012 01:21 AM

AL Wild Card playoff: Philadelphia 6, Rio Grande 3

Young Drachma 01-14-2012 01:25 AM

ALCS: San Diego v. Philadelphia Is this the year the Fathers get over the hump?!

NLCS: Phoenix v. Milwaukee in Brother Bowl once again in a battle of our defending champs versus the previous back to back ones.

If we were still doing 1st half/2nd half, it seems as though Phoenix would've won both halves of the NL, with Milwaukee claiming the wild card as they did anyway. In the AL, Rio Grande would've claimed the 1st half title and San Diego would've won the 2nd half, meaning that 2nd place overall Philly would've been left out in the cold, but given it took a one-game playoff to determine their playoff spot anyway, perhaps it all worked out for the best?

Young Drachma 01-14-2012 01:37 AM

File is up. See you for the playoffs on Monday!

Young Drachma 01-16-2012 11:34 AM

Time for a bit of playoff baseball.

Young Drachma 01-16-2012 11:41 AM

LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES
 
NLCS
Game 1: Milwaukee 5, Phoenix 3
Game 2: Phoenix 3, Milwaukee 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Phoenix 5, Milwaukee 4 (PHX leads series 2-1)
Game 4: Milwaukee 4, Phoenix 3 (Series tied 2-2, Milwaukee scored 4 in the bottom of the 9th to tie the series)
Game 5: Phoenix 3, Milwaukee 0 (PHX leads series 3-2)
Game 6: Phoenix 5, Milwaukee 4 (10 innings) (PHX wins series 4-2)
PHOENIX FIREBIRDS ARE NATIONWIDE LEAGUE CHAMPS!


ALCS
Game 1: San Diego 3, Philadelphia 2
Game 2: San Diego 5, Philadelphia 3 (San Diego leads series 2-0)
Game 3: Philadelphia 4, San Diego 2 (12 innings) (San Diego leads series 2-1)
Game 4: San Diego 6, Philadelphia 4 (San Diego leads series 3-1)
Game 5: San Diego 5, Philadelphia 1 (San Diego wins series 4-1)
SAN DIEGO FATHERS ARE ASSOCIATED LEAGUE CHAMPS!

Young Drachma 01-16-2012 11:44 AM

1841 SUNSET SERIES
A rematch of last year's Sunset Series between the two west-coast rivals. Who will triumph?!

Spoiler


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