According to post 574, we had room for 11 people to sleep.

Were there any other people who tried to sleep but couldn't because of lack of beds? It does appear that all were taken last night.

Which comment? I made a couple - and the first one I made was made BEFORE I actually got the PM, so I wasn't actually sure what happened.

Quick question regarding this. The four people that are placed in protective custody, do they also sleep while in the brig? If so, I'm thinking that we may want to put two engineers in there to both protect them and let them rest.

Telle if you're still around, could you go out on that mission with the same group you took yesterday? Unless you have a different thought, in which case, let's discuss it.

Is the brig-COT a safe idea? Could spawnlings have infected new people last night?

Also, I'd echo that the same people should leave the ship, less people to scan.

We need the engineers working day and night.

If we get this stabilized though those slaves could be so beneficial because we don't have to keep sending so many people outside...we're going to have to take a lot more risks of spawnling conversion if we don't keep using them.

I believe they do sleep, but I would rather us use the Brig for our CoT.. Path needs to scan someone else today and then have Pass lock Path + that person in the brig... We'll have to discuss whether or not to put Kwhit in there now, as I mentioned yesterday I don't think we can assume anything that we can directly trace no spawn infection possibilities for...

So if no one guarded or protected kwhit last night (please say so if you did), then I don't personally think he should be locked in the brig.. and it should be only Path + the new person he scans.

Well, we didn't have a brig last night, so anything could have happened.

I was guarded by MrsS last night so I'm more CoT worthy than probably anyone else at this point, but nothing is certain, I'm afraid.

For the record, I haven't completely made up my mind on the slaves.. There is a high risk/reward factor to them.. Almost down to a person everyone chose the low risk/reward decision on where to land the ship, so I am assuming most would do the same here and ask for the slaves to be killed.

Ahh I missed MrsS saying she guarded you. If she did do that, then yeah I'm ok with you going back in the brig again.. it leaves us a direct line to follow for other spawn to either Path or MrsS or both if you end up bad later on.

I'd agree on the Kwhit/brig issue

ok... did we get na answer on sleeping during the dya?

also why the talk of killing the slaves? the odds they get back out are small. and they do serve some purpuse!

and why over repair the hold, we have tons of crap to fix dont waste i t!

heinze is bugging me, anyone else? it seems hes makign suggestions and they are mostly couterproductive....

vote heinze!

Game has changed since then, though. Our situation currently sucks, and sucks badly. If we take on more spawn and they break more stuff we may never get off this rock. It's going to take us several days just to fix the stuff that has already been broken. This isn't a high risk/high reward versus low risk/low reward -- it's just deciding what your high risk is going to be, and I'd rather hope we can keep our security HQ situation stable than deal with more infections.

oh yeah, I gotta go off to work now (even though ive been here for 5 hours :) )

Ah ok, then if Mrs. S guarded you, I'm ok with that too.

Personally, I say we lock up the slaves and then not kill them. I'd imagine our odds at a 2nd revolt are slim and they can help mine

Finally wakes up ... "Hi chaps" ... got a lot of reading to do to catch up ..

IF we kill the slaves, doesn't that also mean that we can basically ignore the slave pens for repairs too and just focus on everything else (water pump, cargo hold, security, brig, engines)? I think that is what makes killing the slaves worthwhile. It eliminates one place we have to worry about.

Just so everyone knows, I have to work tonight 1pm EST til close (10:30pm) so I won't be home til 11ish pm EST. I will have my vote in before I leave and I plan on voting for someone as I don't think we can do 2 nights without a lynch.

Nice vote and run.

And how am I counterproductive? If anything, I pointed out a moderator error that's going to greatly enhance our chances at avoiding dehydration.

But whatever man.

Have fun...by the way, we already lynched you and found out you were spawn. ;)

lol...

Which would coordinate with the 11 unbroken beds. However 6 more beds got broken at some point.

The Security HQ was fixed last night and should have protected the sleeping quarters.

BK - What's the timing on all that? The beds were broken while the Security HQ was still being fixed?

Well....

I already have some (slight) suspicion of Saldana being a spawn. This is because of his horrible performance mining yesterday. It's not much to go on, but it's better than nothing.

So we can sorta kinda kill two birds with one stone and lynch Saldana and kill the slaves today and we'd not be losing an important role and we'd get rid of the slave security risk. Kind of heartless, but such is life.

If I implicitly trusted Saldana, I'd probably advocate keeping the slaves alive, but I don't.

someon eelse would have caught it. great way to build trust without actually doing anythign :)

I don't want anyone in the brig except for people I've cleared.

yeah but the pens cant be hurt if the sec HQ is fixed.... so its not such a big deal!

ok, gotta go...


sorry admiral, i was late cuz i was playign WW

We have to fix the slave pens in order to kill them, unless we wanted to try running around killing them one at a time (which would suck).

Correct.

But if I'm a spawn, why even mention it? Frankly, I think I've been rather on the ball repairing things and doing my job, in addition to bringing up something that at least had a chance of not being noticed.

That's two people who've somewhat (in my mind) randomly brought me up, while I think I've been as villager as villager can be.

Something to keep in mind should I end up dead.

One point I'd like to clarify on the scanning -- I would far prefer to have clean or spawnling scans to form a CoT -- I'm not necessarily trying to find spawn, because when I do I'm dead and we're down a doc.

I look at it kind of like Stratego where the Spawn are the bombs I'm trying to avoid but will have to hit at some point......

I fully agree.

Sure, I'll get right on that.

Hey I up that and say I have a slight suspiscion of everyone being a spawn ... possibly including myself (I might have a split personality and not be telling myself everything ;) ) ...

However I will state for the case that I am NOT a spawn (that way which ever of you is an empath can verify me) ...

(thought this might be a useful thing to kick off if we're going to be able to form a circle of truth then he's the most likely person to be able to start it going)

That makes sense to me. I've gone from feeling like the engineers were a bit expendable to feeling like we might be more important than I originally thought and was trying to find a way to both get a couple of them rest and keep a couple of them safe. So I think once we get our hands around this current damage crisis, we start a rotation or work/rest with the engineers as long as we can. I think I also saw that there was another engineer being trained which is a very good thing.

Path, scan me please if you don't mind.

ha, I love that game. Haven't played in forever though.

But you're saying path that you'd almost rather not scan the people who leave the ship (since they'd presumably have a higher chance of being spawn)

I'll explain why after I make sure you haven't already submitted a different scan order or not.. Would rather not give the reason out publically yet if you go a different direction

Yeah but it's clap, who IMO is looking spawn-y.

Did anyone guard me last night?

Sounds like the 2 phasers that are "spent" in the weapons locker were one-shot phasers to coordinate with the 2 dead slaves.

Sounds like we only have 3 more "bullets" to kill slaves with besides hoops' 3-shot phaser he has talked about.

Does anyone know if we have access to more 'phasers'? I never watched Star Trek - do these things recharge or something?

(Sorry, can't resist: "DON'T TASE ME BRO!!")

Stratego is awesome...

With Clue and Chess, I've had a bit of a board-game theme to my games. I thought about trying to do Stratego to keep the theme going, but I'd have to remember how to play again, and see if it's even possible to make it into a WW game.

I'm with path on that one -- people leaving the ship essentially become uncleared.

Did anyone guard Path last night?

Ok I'm going to get this in while I still have a few mins to be convinced otherwise...

Lynch Saldana

We've had one poor mission, led by Saldana, and nothing but problems with the slaves, with Saldana being the Slave Master. Maybe it's coincidence but maybe not. He's the highest on my distrusted list with myself and KWhit the highest on my trusted list since i know I'm not spawn and I'm pretty sure KWhit isn't spawn.

When did Hoops say that he would be around today?

If we are willing to sacrifice a little bit of Crys, LSG and I might be able to recharge them. Granted, we can't do this until the hold is repaired (and I have no idea how much Crys it would take)

You got it, Cap.

Danny is the first to receive ministrations for his wounds from the newly appointed medic, bulletsponge.

That worries me.

Yeah, harsh as it might be I'd rather them become lynch targets down the road instead of scan targets. I figure that by the results they get we might be able to figure out who gets infected.

let's see a good scan path :)

Btw, I was informed that I can't take the exact same group as yesterday as before I took two slaves and they're not available today since they're running amuck. So instead I kept it as the same three non-slaves so there are just fewer of us this time.

"Captain Alan if you could please come with me sir," the good doctor path requests. The two men adjourn to the infirmary where an examination is done. A while later the two emerge, the exam done.

The reason why was because of my sleeping PM I received last night. I got an odd message that I think is one of two things. It said that I used to trust the crew, but once I landed that started to change... but it wasn't an always thing, but only a sometimes thing.

I asked Barkeep what it meant, and he told me he wasn't going to clarify any further.. so my hunch is that I have a secret ability to be able to detect a spawn the more nights I sleep with them.. but a small part of me is worried that I have a spawnling inside of me. If the latter, then I want to find out now so Path can remove it.. if the former, then now that I have revealed this, I want to be in the brig where 1) I will be with the same people every night and be able to pick up if a spawn is in there somehow and 2) I want to be protected so someone can't kill me because of this ability.

Ditto, but I'll be curious to hearing the reasoning.

He was going to be in the first three or four scans anyway, so might as well be now. If he turns up bad it seems a weird way to go out this early.

Plus, even if Path is bad I am not worried about him lying and saying I am bad because as per the rules if I was, he and I would both die... so since I know I am good, I feel pretty confident that Path will announce I am good :)

Gah.. now I can't take clap either because he's being trained. Any suggestions on who I should take on this dang mission?

Still catching up now, but I can semi-vouch for this. I spied on Olie and she was spying on someone. I also got word that she was disturbed about something. I was hoping it would be Spawn, not Slave, related.

I picked Olie because she had multiple night action choices and I wanted to make sure she was doing one of those rather than something inconsistent with her public role. I also wanted to trust the person giving out the phasers, given the attack/defense bonus associated with them.

are you sure that isnt me doing the healing?

So wait, clap is a medic? I thought he was an engineer

Take the scientist you took yesterday and three of the privates.

^^^ he named wrong guy, im healing him

Engineers, Security staff , medical staff and officers are pretty much busy or we don't want them out..

So that leaves you, any privates not busy Marc Vaughn I believe and the two scientist Lonestargirl and packerfanatic I believe

I found no indication of Spawn with you, so there is no spawnling and we're both still alive. I wonder if this means Unaware Spawn though, which I don't think I would detect.

Telle - I would suggest taking LSG as your scientist, as I am wounded and would likely be less effective (and with having less people going anyway, we want as much effectiveness as we can get)

Correct. bullet healed Danny.

Path, do you get a nightscan as well or do you have to wait until tomorrow?

Or take us both, up to you.

Chubby was being trained for something too, right? So the only private I have available is Marc Vaughan?

That description doesn't seem to match up with the PM I Got. I believe Unaware spawn knows they are a spawn at night time. My PM only indicated what I tried to paraphrase. Like I said I -think- it leads me to believe that I am "Spawn Aware" but wanted to make sure it wasn't a spawnling.

I already have a list of the 10 people who slept in the same room as me last night in case I am right about that so I can try to keep track of when I get this feeling.

Telle,

I don't think you should take a small group. Max it out at 5 if you can.

Just one per day. I'm done until tomorrow. If someone wanted to heal me that would be pretty cool, if not I'll just be hanging around.

Are Marc Vaughn and Chubby doing anything?

I'm half trained as ensign but I'm not being trained today (as far as I know)

I don't think we ever got an answer on this:

Barkeep, can the slaves be rounded up, then go on an away mission today? And then later be killed if we so choose?

It was interesting because my scan of KWhit had a phrase that told me he was pure human but I didn't get that with yours -- it may mean nothing (God knows it's easy to read too much into PM's) but combined with your concern I thought I'd at least throw it out there.

Since we were training up Chubby to lead away missions anyways he seems like a decent one to take then today. So if BK gives us the yes answer to my question, you could do an away team of you + Chubby + Marc Vaughn + a scientist + 1 slave once some slaves are herded up.

Dola, but I'll also repeat that no indication of Spawn was found with you.

Path, for similar reasoning then, please consider scanning me tomorrow. I know as a simple engineer I may not be high on the list but I would be curious to compare the result of me to that of KWhit and Alan T.

I should know better than to dola in this game.

Do we want to put two new privates out there if we have more slaves available? Maybe take one of them plus two slaves?

I'll leave that up to you and Kwhit. I was just tossing it out as a possibility to not be overlooked

Can't promise anything right now. There are definitely roles that I think are more important to clear first -- unless you're saying that you believe you have a spawnling inside you.

If he does have a spawnling inside of him, it wouldn't be a great idea to scan him tommorrow as he would be a full spawn by then.

Ok, so I'm going to wait a little bit to see if we get some slaves rounded up and if I can use them once they are, and to see if Chubby is going to be trained today or not.

Right now I'm thinking LoneStarGirl (since PackerFanatic is exhausted) + Marc Vaughan (so Chubby can finish getting trained) + two slaves.

What do you mean?

Did you get a strange message last night along the lines of Alan's?

I don't want to be comparing PMs, but did you receive a 'feeling' of some kind that we should know about?

No spawnling to the best of my knowledge but I got a similar PM as Alan only with some different information. It didn't dawn on me, until he asked to be scanned, to think that it could be a bad thing. Nothing I read from it indicates that. In fact, it is very vague and indicates very little but nothing dark or dangerous in terms of our mission. So it's your call. That's why I asked about Hoops earlier, was hoping for an interrogation to share info with somebody but I guess this did it.

Is Chubby getting trained today? I thought he said he was not.

I guarded Kwhit last night and killed a slave in the process.

There was a little conversation this morning regarding it, but the more I think about it, the more I think it wouldn't be a bad idea for the duplicant (if we have one) to go ahead and use their ability sooner (ie: today or tommorrow) rather than later...

THe longer we go in this game, if you aren't a cleared/protected person, the chances of you either dying or getting converted increases and we'll lose the ability unused anyways.

We have a ton of stuff that needs to be fixed if you wanted to duplicate a chief engineer or something.. but I still would love to see Path cleared today before we get too far down the rabbit hole. And would love the duplicant to use his ability to scan Path today.

We know Kwhit was guarded last night per MrsSchmidty.. so if Path is ok, then I feel really good about our CoT .. then we just have to keep the brig safe and Security HQ repaired...

I'm not ordering the duplicant to do this or anything, but I would really like you to strongly consider that we will possibly get the most bang for the buck using it today to scan Path

If I do get sent out it's be swell if I was healed first since I'm wounded from being attacked by a slave last night.

With that I'm off to work. Hopefully we get some luck today.

Yes

RendeR asked about whether or not you can skip a day of training and continue. I don't think a decision was made as to whether or not the training was going to happen.

RendeR used his 1 AP to convert bulletsponge from a Private to a Medic and Chubby will (I suppose) finish his training with RendeR during Day 3.