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JonInMiddleGA 06-19-2018 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3208588)
Somebody, maybe Deadspin, had a Bagley to Sac story a few days ago.


Thx, musta whooshed right by me.

I'm still thinking smokescreen but I guess we'll see.

Groundhog 06-20-2018 01:38 AM

I don't see Vlade not going with Doncic, but at the same time fully expect him to somehow fall to the Mavs for some reason.

stevew 06-20-2018 11:45 PM

Cavs better not pass on Trae Young. Give me something to be entertained by, plz.

JonInMiddleGA 06-20-2018 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 3208698)
Cavs better not pass on Trae Young. Give me something to be entertained by, plz.


Seeing how many points the other team can score?

RainMaker 06-21-2018 12:52 AM

I feel like this draft is one of the biggest unknowns we have ever had. Outside the 1st pick, it seems everything is up for grabs.

miami_fan 06-21-2018 06:49 PM

1st trade of the night

MrBug708 06-21-2018 07:02 PM

Daytona been the best paid player in college for some time. Kid is the real deal

Groundhog 06-21-2018 07:02 PM

I don't see history judging this Hawks-Mavs trade very well... Coup for the Mavs IMO.

Buccaneer 06-21-2018 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog (Post 3208785)
I don't see history judging this Hawks-Mavs trade very well... Coup for the Mavs IMO.


+1

Hawks already had a bottom 10 defense - it's about to get worse.

jbergey22 06-21-2018 07:17 PM

Or Trae Young could end up being the next Curry while the Mavs just got the next Marco Jaric. NBA draft is far from predictable. Trae Young doesnt strike me as a player that wont be able to handle the next level. He was dealing with double teams and half court traps the entire 2nd part of the season.

Groundhog 06-21-2018 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbergey22 (Post 3208789)
Or Trae Young could end up being the next Curry while the Mavs just got the next Marco Jaric. NBA draft is far from predictable. Trae Young doesnt strike me as a player that wont be able to handle the next level. He was dealing with double teams and half court traps the entire 2nd part of the season.


True, although Jaric didn't have nearly the same European career as Doncic has to this point (and in a much stronger league). Not sure Trae Young would have logged more than 8-10 mins a game at best in the Spanish league last season - maybe for one of the bottom of the ladder teams.

jbergey22 06-21-2018 07:26 PM

Poor Kevin Knox.

rjolley 06-21-2018 07:27 PM

Don't forget, Atlanta picked up a protected future first for the trade as well. They did well. Young will be a good player, though Doncic will be a better player over the first couple of years at least.

miami_fan 06-21-2018 07:27 PM

Michael Porter Jr. to the Sixers?

jbergey22 06-21-2018 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3208794)
Michael Porter Jr. to the Sixers?


That would be interesting.

jbergey22 06-21-2018 07:31 PM

Good fit for Philly. Bridges can do a lot of different things well.

Groundhog 06-21-2018 07:36 PM

I wish the Cavs had rolled the dice on Porter Jr.

miami_fan 06-21-2018 08:19 PM

Brett Brown did not like Mikal Bridges THAT much after all.

Arles 06-21-2018 08:48 PM

Is there a more perfect person for Utah than Grayson Allen?

miami_fan 06-21-2018 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles (Post 3208816)
Is there a more perfect person for Utah than Grayson Allen?


LOL! I have four different message boards up discussing the draft and someone has now made the same observation on all of them.

Buccaneer 06-21-2018 09:06 PM

Just don't understand the Sixers trading Bridges, who was a perfect pick. Maybe they foresaw chemistry issues?

Arles 06-21-2018 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 3208818)
Just don't understand the Sixers trading Bridges, who was a perfect pick. Maybe they foresaw chemistry issues?

They secretly slid in Hinkie to be the GM for the draft. And the combination of a project player plus an unprotected future #1 was too enticing for him! #process2.0

cuervo72 06-21-2018 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 3208818)
Just don't understand the Sixers trading Bridges, who was a perfect pick. Maybe they foresaw chemistry issues?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles (Post 3208821)
They secretly slid in Hinkie to be the GM for the draft.


Or QuikSand.

Arles 06-21-2018 09:47 PM

Pretty funny when you bet over 2.5 on Villanova players in the first round. I’m thinking it’s Bridges, Donte and Brunson. Then Brunson doesn’t go but Omari Spellmn goes 30th :D

Groundhog 06-21-2018 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3208817)
LOL! I have four different message boards up discussing the draft and someone has now made the same observation on all of them.


I was watching the draft in the kitchen at work and even in Australia two separate people said basically the same thing, while I at least thought it in my head. :D

stevew 06-21-2018 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groundhog (Post 3208798)
I wish the Cavs had rolled the dice on Porter Jr.


Me too.

JonInMiddleGA 06-21-2018 10:37 PM

Hawks gonna Hawks.

You pass up at least a potential generational talent to draft a guy who couldn't guard 50 year olds on a dare.

Write it down: Jon Koncak ends up with a better NBA career than Trae "I disappeared faster than Hoffa" Young.

Eaglesfan27 06-22-2018 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 3208818)
Just don't understand the Sixers trading Bridges, who was a perfect pick. Maybe they foresaw chemistry issues?


I don't get it either. :(

corbes 06-22-2018 09:15 AM

Brown said they loved Bridges. After they picked him, Suns offered Smith plus the unprotected 2021 1st (which Brown noted will probably be the first year when high school players are eligible again for the draft). Per Brown, he couldn't pass up the 2021 first, and, reading between the lines, they intend to dangle that pick in front of the Spurs as part of a Leonard offer.

Arles 06-22-2018 10:06 AM

I don't get the full appeal of that pick. In 2021, the Heat will have all their big/bad contracts off the books (Dragic, Bosh, Ty Johnson, Whiteside and Waiters). They will have gone from a $115 mil salary cap level 19/20 to about $25 mil in 20/21. If you assume their draft picks and a few mid level exception FAs, they should have enough room for 2-3 Max guys plus have added 2 more first round picks. I can't see anyway that Riley + 2 max cap slots + no pick does not equal a playoff team in the East. There's no reason for them to tank that year without their pick. I think the Suns were smart to move it as it will be less appealing the closer you get to it. Remember, the Heat have only drafted 10th or lower (10th -Winslow) once in the last 10 years. They've been mostly in the teens since Lebron left. I could maybe see them bottoming out in 2020 (have their pick and some bad contracts left), but by 2021 I expect them to put on the full court press in FA.

Atocep 06-22-2018 11:56 AM

Any unprotected pick that belongs to a team without an obvious path to contention has good value. It's definitely an asset that could be part of a package to bring in another star if the opportunity presents itself.

The Sixers saved a million, which helps them get to max cap space, and got the higher upside player. The Suns got a NBA ready wing that plays defense, which they desperately needed.

Both teams checked off the boxes they wanted to check off in this deal.

Arles 06-22-2018 12:03 PM

Yeah, I think it has value - but people are acting like the Suns gave up a potential top 3 pick to Philly. It's probably going to be in the 12-17 range. So, would you trade the 16th pick this year plus the 14th pick in 3 years to get the 10th pick now? Seems like a pretty fair trade. Where it may really work out is if Philly can parlay it into a bigger player because someone else really values it.

Still, you have to wonder if going from a very talented/ready wing to compliment Simmons and Embiid to a project is worth a 1st 3 years from now if you are trying to win. If Philly doesn't trade this pick for an upgrade, I don't think you can look at this trade as a success for them. Smith is a pretty big project and I'd be shocked if he got any kind of minutes next year for Philly.

Danny 06-22-2018 09:35 PM

I see Young as a guy who can score a lot of points and put up big numbers on a bad team, but I don't see him being a guy who helps a team win a championship. I think Doncic is a potential franchise player.

kingfc22 06-23-2018 11:42 AM

Melo opting into his player option of 27.9M with OKC.

LOL

Eaglesfan27 06-23-2018 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3208972)
Melo opting into his player option of 27.9M with OKC.

LOL


He would have been crazy not to.

korme 06-23-2018 03:04 PM

Might be a buyout discussion coming esp. if George walks I think

DavidCorperial 06-23-2018 03:08 PM

Don't forget with the 76ers getting the Heat pick from the Suns, there is talk that the one and done rule is going to be ending, and that it will end for the 2021 draft at the earliest.

Vince, Pt. II 06-24-2018 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 3208985)
He would have been crazy not to.


Right? I can't believe this is a story.

stevew 06-24-2018 01:27 AM

Howard getting bought out and joining someone(Golden State?).

I imagine Melo gets stretched if Paul George leaves.

korme 06-24-2018 05:15 PM

Golden State would want no part of 'give me my post touches' man

stevew 06-25-2018 08:33 PM



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