yeah Grant that's what I first heard, but later reporting is saying it was a concerned citizen who called police-not sure what the actual story is.

Officer on the scene said at 8:50 on this video it was an informant.
U-haul full of guys pulled over by law enforcement - YouTube

My gawd the comments on this feed, false flag, they are Feds, etc, etc. America is full of stupid, brainwashed idiots. Everything is now a false flag to the Q crew.

crazzy...where were they going?

this is really stupid the cops let other citizens get that close to them...what if they had a bomb and set it off

oh looks like Idaho

In the Year of Our Lord 2022, my mom forwarded to me an email that had been passed around her septuagenarian and octogenarian friends group that was was a clear urban legend.

It's one that you've probably seen as it's been around for like 25 years - the Rambo Granny. You know, 81 year old Australian grandma blows the testicles off a criminal she tracked down who had raped and robbed her granddaughter.

My response to my mom was simply "urban legend," to which she replied, "But it makes for a good story!"

What I really wanted to do was ask my mom why she thought this particular story, which has been making the internet rounds for as long as people have had AOL, was making the rounds at this point in time. It couldn't have anything to do with the current gun control debate and the "good guy with a gun" BS, could it? This story has everything! Grandma with a gun - who could be any more sympathetic a character as a responsible grandma whose granddaughter was raped? And she tracked down the bad guys! The bumbling cops suck at investigation, so grandma and her gun are the enforcers of choice! And of course the bad guy gets it good - he lost his testicles and his penis was mangled. REVENGE FACTOR 10.0!

It's all in there for the gun rights activists (BTW, my parents have never owned a gun or to my knowledge, ever even touched/fired one but by golly, the 2nd Amendment is as important to them as any issue!).

The fact that this was an old made-up story completely went over my mom's head, as was the reason it was passed around. Once I called it out for the BS is was, she fell back to it being a great story. Pulitzer Prize material, I'm sure.

*sigh*

We're going to be spending 12 days with my parents in Hawaii. It looks like the J6 hearings will end before the end of the month, which I am thankful for. It'll be a miracle if I don't end up attempting to swim back to the mainland after a week.

Props to the Coeur d'Alene police:


Who knows what the Uvalde cops would have done.

Held a press conference

Heh I'm sorry I'm do late to the party
I missed the original link

No federal charges against the fascist group? I remember the DOJ making a big stink about people crossing state lines to riot and how they are going after them. Have a feeling that was only for a certain demographic.

Locked up the person who reported it.

Apparently some right wing militia types online are now doxing the Coeur d'Alene police--posting their names, home addresses, etc.

Lots of mass shooters don’t seem to have criminal records or not major ones.

Did you know that a group of mass shooters is ALSO called a murder?

I'm not sure your definition of "not major ones" but how I define criminal elements is anyone convicted of a crime that was above an infraction (e.g. misdemeanor, felony convictions). I acknowledge there are misdemeanors that are not that "major", but there are some misdemeanors that I consider serious especially if there were multiple incidents (simple assault, domestic violence). So unsure if that is precise enough but that's my default definition.

In the context of my discussion which you reference, note it is not just criminal elements but also mentally unstable. Get rid of guns or access to guns in those 2 groups first before removing all/most guns from law abiding citizens.

So to answer your question, for mass shootings demographics

Public Mass Shootings: Database Amasses Details of a Half Century of U.S. Mass Shootings with Firearms, Generating Psychosocial Histories | National Institute of Justice

When talking about homicides overall (not just mass shootings), I was not able to find relatively recent research but here's an older one.

Criminal Records of Homicide Offenders | Medical Education and Training | JAMA | JAMA Network

If you have more recent research, please share them.

Of course they do

I knew it would be Matt Shea before I opened the link.

Lol well played

Surprised this didn't get a mention here, but this time staff and LEO's likely saved a lot of kids lives

Texas police shoot, kill armed man at youth summer camp – WFTV

Sadly the pro gun folks will twist this into good guy with a gun instead of oh shit it almost happened again.

Well, it was a camp where the majority of the kids were black, as well as the shooter, so flip a coin on that I guess.

Heads - Fawn over the good guys and call out the potential shooters race, ala Blake Masters

Tails - Downplay it because the kids saved will grow up and vote for Dems anyway.

Dola - Forgot to mention this yesterday, but I asked my wife if she wanted to go to a Juneteenth event this weekend. Her response......

She gave me a firm no because she was worried that some lunatic may target one of the events here because of the large number of black people that would be present and she didn't want to be a target. :(

She also recently said she sometimes thought about us being targeted on one of our walks because we were an interracial couple and someone might not like her with me.

She is not a timid/scared person by any means and she totally understands the odds of being caught in one of these scenarios is incredibly small. But it is still significant enough to cause her to think about altering her/our life and that both saddens me and infuriates me. This is the fucking bullshit that now crosses peoples minds because of the preponderance of white nationalism that has been emboldened in this country.

I know a lot of people who aren't attending the Pride Parade in Chicago next week for the same reason. The stuff that almost happened in Idaho last week was a pretty big wakeup call.

Apparently, the TX leg held a secret hearing on Uvalde today.

I'm pretty sure now that the cops killed some of the students.

dola

The Uvalde police say they can't release any info because of the District Attorney's investigation,

but the DA says she isn't investigating.

The cops definitely killed some of the children.

If true, shame on them.

If not true, I'll assume you'll issue a formal apology.

Oh no, don't issue that yet. You may well be right.

However, when I googled I did not see any indication that the LEOs killed any kids.

Back to zero

https://abcnews.go.com/US/multiple-p...l_twitter_abcn

God works in mysterious ways and all that.

Or freewill or the Devil.

I mean....you had to know it was coming.

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton on the Uvalde massacre: “God has a plan� | Salon.com


Parody is reality.

Somehow, God has a plan, doesn't apply when it's a transgender kid.

Whew, good thing I read this article. From the sarcasm here against "God", it's good to know they are in the minority.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/393737/...s-new-low.aspx

Stop playing the pedantic dimwit. You know full well it’s not sarcasm towards Him, it’s towards those who selectively sight His omnipotence based on their selfish aims.

Actually no, didn't know that. Democrats are about 72% (vs Rep 92%) in believing in God. Liberal affiliation is 62% believe in God. So pretty easy to believe many here don't believe in God.

So, it would be nice if they said "organized religion" vs God then. But maybe let them answer for themselves.

smh

I believe that organized religion exists. Not so sure about God.

It's just a leap of faith. If you are looking for proof, it'll be a while.

Come over from the darkside young padawan :)

My new band name is "Pedantic Dimwit."

Don't spend much time around here do you? Or just don't pay much attention. Either way.

Nice threadjack. Just turn this into a discussion on religion itself and (your) faith, belief whatever and spin against those opposed to organized religion and the use of it in US culture. As opposed to, oh, I don't know. {checks thread title} oh yeah....gun culture in the US, and (my point) it's apparent goose step support from Christian Nationalists. You'd think Christians might have a bit more empathy and support for grieving families whose kids were murdered with a weapon of war. But all they can seem to manage is to throw up their hands and invoke the 'will' of God and say, "Nothing you can do about it, might as well accept it and move on". It's a rather ingenious way to avoid actually taking responsibility for anything they don't want to.

Pat Robertson and his ilk literally blame every bad thing that happens on godlessness and punishment, or the will of god for something. It's so much bullshit. It's hard to take over and over again.

But sure, how about you tell us all about your faith and how God leads you though the good times of your life.

FWIW, I'm a non-practicing Catholic but do believe in a God. Appreciate you clarifying stating Christian Nationalists vs believers in God in general.

You are right, this is off-topic and although tangents happen all the time, I can see this one getting out of hand. But happy to have a discussion in a more dedicated thread.

They must be hiding something pretty bad to go through all this trouble.

Uvalde Hires Private Law Firm to Argue It Doesn’t Have to Release School Shooting Public Records

Imagine the insult of the local taxpayers wanting answers, and their tax dollars paying for lawyers to keep it covered up.

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There is no way they’ll be able to keep it secret. The public pressure will crush them (as it should). I do wonder what they are trying to hide … surely it’s not just embarrassment at their incompetence

If they felt any semblance of embarrassment or shame, they would have done the honorable thing and killed themselves.

This is likely just to protect themselves financially.