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Neon_Chaos 08-23-2005 01:36 AM

Werewolf XIII: The Italian Village
 
Yo. Let's do this, if people are still interested. :)

I will need 20 players for this one. Sign-up complete!

Player List:
1. kingfc22
2. Blade6119
3. Vince
4. SackAttack
5. MrBug708
6. dubb93
7. ardent enthusiast
8. raiders army
9. Lathum
10. saldana
11. Mr. Wednesday
12. henry296
13. digamma
14. cartman
15. RealDeal
16. Barkeep49
17. Bek
18. pennywisesb
19. RPI-Fan
20. SnDvls

Alternate:
1. RadioFriendlyUnitShifter

Roles: (Note that these roles may or may not be used in the game, and that there is the possibility that there is more than one instance of a given role. And of course, there are the secret roles, unnamed. :) )

Mafia - You have come to this small Italian Village, looking to invade and take over the local populace. You can achieve it by reaching a 1-1 ratio with everyone else in the village. Each night the Mafia choose one person to kill.

Turncoat - You are a turncoat for the mafia. You do not know who the Mafia are, nor do they know who you are. You may not PM the Mafia. You may check each night to see if a person in the Investigator. You win if the Mafia win. When viewed by the Investigator, you will only come up as a Villager. You will still count as a Villager during head-counting between Mafia and Villagers.

Retired Officer - You are a retired policeman living your life out in the Village. Each night you may choose one person to protect from being killed by the Mafia. You may choose yourself, but cannot choose the same person two nights in a row.

Investigator - You are a local Investigator, hearing rumors of Mafia in the village. You may choose one person each night to view, to check if he is a member of the Mafia.

Regional Magistrate - You are the Regional Magistrate, and are quite wealthy. You've gone on vacation in this small village. You may choose to change the target of a lynching for one day, and choose a new lynching target. This is a one-time power only.

Basic Rules:
  • Deadlines will be 9PM EDT for Votes, and 9AM EDT for Night Actions.
  • If I send you a PM, please, PLEASE don't post it. Paraphrase if you want. I don't care as much about PMs shared between players. ;)
  • If you miss two votes in a row without a good excuse, you'll be replaced by one of the alternates.
  • Ties will be decided by different ways, if the Regional Magistrate is alive, he will PM me which among the tied players will be lynched. If the Reigional Magistrate is dead, then the tied vote will be determined via the omnipotent coin-toss of eternal damnation!
  • This is important: Lynching deaths will reveal the identities of the victims. Night deaths WILL NOT.

kingfc22 08-23-2005 01:36 AM

Did somebody say WW game?

I'm in

Blade6119 08-23-2005 01:43 AM

do you even have to ask...i should be automatically placed in every game

Vince 08-23-2005 01:48 AM

Heh, I'll sign up -- I've missed it in the week since I got killed in the last one.

SackAttack 08-23-2005 02:03 AM

I"m in!

MrBug708 08-23-2005 03:10 AM

Woot!

dubb93 08-23-2005 03:18 AM

In there.

Poli 08-23-2005 06:41 AM

Word.

Raiders Army 08-23-2005 07:03 AM

I'm in

Lathum 08-23-2005 08:12 AM

In

saldana 08-23-2005 08:21 AM

im in

Mr. Wednesday 08-23-2005 08:54 AM

In.

henry296 08-23-2005 09:01 AM

In, but will be without e-mail from Friday after work through very late Sunday evening.

digamma 08-23-2005 09:06 AM

In. Have to vindicate the villager's piss poor performance in the last one. Or kill them off. One. By. One.

Lathum 08-23-2005 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296
In, but will be without e-mail from Friday after work through very late Sunday evening.


VOTE HENRY :D

cartman 08-23-2005 10:03 AM

Hell, I'll give this a try. I'm really missing Italy these days :(

RealDeal 08-23-2005 10:05 AM

I'm in.

Barkeep49 08-23-2005 10:18 AM

I'll join.

Bek 08-23-2005 10:25 AM

I'm in...maybe i won't be slaughtered this time

pennywisesb 08-23-2005 10:47 AM

I'm in if there is still room.

Mr. Wednesday 08-23-2005 11:39 AM

By my count, there's still a couple of spots left.

RPI-Fan 08-23-2005 11:56 AM

I'm in.

Bek 08-23-2005 12:28 PM

if i counted correctly there is one spot left

Fouts 08-23-2005 12:36 PM

I almost joined, but I think I would die immediately. Plus I'm heading out of town for 10 days, and my internet time will be erratic.

SnDvls 08-23-2005 03:07 PM

in

Karlifornia 08-23-2005 04:07 PM

I'll sign up as an alternate. I haven't done one of these yet.

Neon_Chaos 08-23-2005 06:35 PM

THE ROLES HAVE BEEN SENT OUT. KINDLY READ THE RULES ABOVE. THANKS.

GAME HAS BEGUN!!!

WE START WITH NIGHT (0). Those of you with Night Actions (no killing for tonight), Kindly send in your views by 9AM EDT. :) Thanks.

pennywisesb 08-23-2005 06:35 PM

Does the game start tonight?

Schmidty 08-23-2005 06:38 PM

I'm taking a break, NC, but if you do another WW game after this, I'd love to be in it.

jeff061 08-23-2005 06:46 PM

Same for me, I was debating whether to join this one, but I'm going to take a breather.

Lathum 08-23-2005 06:52 PM

This one will be a nice change of pace after all the intricacies of the last game.

Barkeep49 08-23-2005 07:20 PM

Hello all. I'm excited to jump back into the "werewolf" fold after some time off.

Quick question kind of off topic: Does anyone around here have a nickname such as "Fat", "Machine gun" or "two ton"?

Mr. Wednesday 08-23-2005 07:48 PM

Just a villager, checking in... and I assure you, I have no nicknames. :)

(My handle is self-chosen and so I don't consider it a nickname.)

digamma 08-23-2005 07:50 PM

Checking in. No known nicknames or aliases.

Vince 08-23-2005 07:51 PM

Vince, checking in.

Should be interesting that Night Deaths will not reveal the player's role.

cartman 08-23-2005 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49
Quick question kind of off topic: Does anyone around here have a nickname such as "Fat", "Machine gun" or "two ton"?


I'm not fat, I'm big boned.

:D

MrBug708 08-23-2005 08:00 PM

Just checking in. Hopefully the mafia won't knock us asap like the last game

henry296 08-23-2005 08:05 PM

Glad to be back in another mafia game.

SackAttack 08-23-2005 08:06 PM

Rock 'n roll, glad we're getting started. Been a long, hot day covering the college soccer team.

RealDeal 08-23-2005 08:40 PM

also checking in here

saldana 08-23-2005 08:44 PM

no nicknames here either

SnDvls 08-23-2005 10:00 PM

simple villager this time checking in

SackAttack 08-23-2005 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana
no nicknames here either


Who needs a nickname with a handle as Sicilian as saldana?

Just kidding. :D

RPI-Fan 08-23-2005 10:17 PM

Just checking in as a villager.

~rpi-fan

kingfc22 08-23-2005 10:20 PM

Down with the Mafia!!!

saldana 08-23-2005 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SackAttack
Who needs a nickname with a handle as Sicilian as saldana?

Just kidding. :D


i am actually a long lost relative of Roseanne Roseannadanna.

SackAttack 08-23-2005 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos
[*]This is important: Lynching deaths will reveal the identities of the victims. Night deaths WILL NOT.


This has ramifications I hadn't thought of before.

Last time, the Mafia hit three major players in their first three attacks, and had to know they had us on the ropes. This time, unless Neon tells them by PM who they got, they won't have any idea whether a night kill was an important player or just a red shirt.

Mr. Wednesday 08-23-2005 10:23 PM

I wonder, though, how much of a difference that would have made strategy-wise if they hadn't known they got the seer? (And from my POV, my role was not especially useful until late in the game.)

Vince 08-23-2005 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SackAttack
This has ramifications I hadn't thought of before.

Last time, the Mafia hit three major players in their first three attacks, and had to know they had us on the ropes. This time, unless Neon tells them by PM who they got, they won't have any idea whether a night kill was an important player or just a red shirt.


Well, we won't know either. It is going to be a little more touch and go for all parties.

SackAttack 08-23-2005 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince
Well, we won't know either. It is going to be a little more touch and go for all parties.


That's true. But it was always touch and go for us because we got behind the 8 ball so quickly that we never recovered. The mafia will still know who the villagers are, but because they won't know the roles of those they kill, they're going to have to be much more careful, just on the chance that a seer role still exists.

I wonder, for example, if Blade would have tried his play if a legitimate seer was still in the game.

Poli 08-23-2005 10:48 PM

Well, after having a lot of fun as part of the winning mafia team, I'm now just a villager. So is the life. Maybe I'm a postal worker. Who knows.

MrBug708 08-23-2005 10:55 PM

Isn't that a sure sign of a killer?

Poli 08-23-2005 10:58 PM

Ha. Ha.

SackAttack 08-23-2005 11:00 PM

I dunno. That sig is scary. "I don't think they'd let someone like me carry a gun."

Poli 08-23-2005 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SackAttack
I dunno. That sig is scary. "I don't think they'd let someone like me carry a gun."

That's why I'm a postal worker. :)

dubb93 08-23-2005 11:07 PM

Checking in, simple villager here.

Raiders Army 08-24-2005 07:26 AM

Villager checking in as well.

Lathum 08-24-2005 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast
Well, after having a lot of fun as part of the winning mafia team, I'm now just a villager. So is the life. Maybe I'm a postal worker. Who knows.

Mail bomb?

cartman 08-24-2005 08:49 AM

Wow, that was a restless night. Hard to sleep well keeping one eye open.

Neon_Chaos 08-24-2005 10:30 AM

(Sorry for the lateness...)

It is a pleasant morning. You all wake up feeling quite refreshed after a wonderful feast celebrating the Village's patron saint last night. You are met, however, with a grisly sight... the Village Mayor, Neon_Chaos is dead. A tight noose is wrapped around his neck, as he hangs from one of the tall construction rafters of the reconstructed chapel. Last night, he told a tale about Mafia coming to take over the town, none of you believed it, thinking that it was nothing more but another drunken rant... and now this.

The local priest looks with fear in his eyes.

"He is the only man who knows the secret of this town, the one man who can stop... I fear... I fear for all our lives! Flee! Flee!"

The priest is quick to run back inside his chapel, and pack his things. In less than ten minutes he is aboard his horse-drawn carriage out of the Village.

You don't feel so good now.

IT IS DAY (1), VOTES ARE DUE AT 9PM EDT. LATE VOTES WILL NOT COUNT!

Barkeep49 08-24-2005 10:43 AM

Well that sucks.

RealDeal 08-24-2005 10:47 AM

That priest probably read about how we did in the last WW.

cartman 08-24-2005 10:50 AM

Now the discussion begins...

where to start. Usually the quiet ones are the most guilty. Or is it that the quiet ones are the most innocent?

MrBug708 08-24-2005 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealDeal
That priest probably read about how we did in the last WW.


Heh

Lathum 08-24-2005 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman
Now the discussion begins...

where to start. Usually the quiet ones are the most guilty. Or is it that the quiet ones are the most innocent?

I have yet to figure that one out.

digamma 08-24-2005 10:56 AM

My little boy is missing. Damn priest.

pennywisesb 08-24-2005 11:06 AM

Hey everyone, sorry I haven't posted, but my internet has been down for the last day and a half and so I haven't had access. Lo and behold, this is my second game and second time playing as a villager. I was kinda hoping for a chance to play as mafioso, but I guess Neon Chaos didn't have the same idea. :p

SackAttack 08-24-2005 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digamma
My little boy is missing. Damn priest.


Lynch the priest!

MrBug708 08-24-2005 12:06 PM

I'll start it off. Mostly because I have work and class. Damn Wednesdays :(

Vote - Ardent

It just wouldn't be the same. ;)

Poli 08-24-2005 12:07 PM

Ha.

Who do you think was leading the carriage out of town? That was me, son. :)

I'm a villager.

Raiders Army 08-24-2005 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast
Ha.

Who do you think was leading the carriage out of town? That was me, son. :)

I'm a villager.

What'd you do with the priest? More importantly, what'd you do with digamma's son???

MrBug708 08-24-2005 12:17 PM

Never trust the postal service. Always go UPS

Barkeep49 08-24-2005 12:23 PM

Well for the time being Blade is the only one who hasn't checked in which makes me lean towards voting for him. I'll give him a little more time though. This first vote is always hard as we have so little to go on, besides the fact that Neon was probabally a good guy, so voting for the absent player helps make a tough decision a little easier for me.

digamma 08-24-2005 12:31 PM

Neon is running the game and was just a seed kill to start the game. No relevance to the actual "players."

Lathum 08-24-2005 12:43 PM

I was hoping Fouts was gonna play just so I could vote for him the first day after the screw job he put on me the last game :)

SackAttack 08-24-2005 12:55 PM

I don't know who I'm voting for yet, but after the way he snookered us last game, I'm gonna be keeping an eye on Blade. Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, I'm going home!

henry296 08-24-2005 12:59 PM

I know that Blade is a common victim, but we need to remember that each game is different. Something tells me he is a good guy this time.

SackAttack 08-24-2005 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296
I know that Blade is a common victim, but we need to remember that each game is different. Something tells me he is a good guy this time.


Yeah, probability dictates that, if nothing else. Still gonna watch him, though. I got lucky to stumble onto his plan last time, so he's clearly got a devious streak in him.

We'll see how the day unfolds before I decide which way to vote though.

cartman 08-24-2005 01:11 PM

Well, I have to leave to go to the airport, and fly to lovely Albany, NY. So my vote might not be a well thought out one, but I have to go with my gut:

My vote: saldana

My reasons for this are so:

his name sounds Italian, and werewolves aren't known as migratory creatures
he has been lurking in the thread, and not posting

Vince 08-24-2005 01:11 PM

With three people walking out in the last three days, I'm stuck in another double shift today. I won't be back in time to vote, but since day 1 is such a crapshoot anyways, I don't feel so bad about just throwing something out there.

I vote kingfc22.

I won't be back until about 6 or 7 PM PST at the earliest, and most likely 9 or 10 PM PST.

kingfc22 08-24-2005 01:12 PM

This town is too quiet.

Raiders Army 08-24-2005 01:13 PM

Just to throw it out there, but in the last WW game I played in, the quiet ones were pretty much the ones that were left. That being said, the wolves won because they didn't put much analysis in it, so I would lean towards voting out a quiet one since they're either:

a. a wolf
b. someone who won't contribute and cause us to lose the game in the long run

Just some thoughts.

Lathum 08-24-2005 01:22 PM

I agree with Raiders Army. It's always a crapshoot anyway.

VOTE BLADE

saldana 08-24-2005 01:25 PM

in response to cartmans vote for me i have this to say...

1. i have posted already, and stated that i am a just a villager
2. my user name is a character from a science fiction series set in the 26th century....the saldanas are from another galaxy, not italy
3. how would he know if i was lurking in the thread unless that is what he was doing.

thats his second post today that has been an attempt to push attention away from himself...sounds alot like he doesnt want anyone to notice him.

Vote: Cartman

digamma 08-24-2005 01:37 PM

Henry,

What could be telling you that Blade is a good guy? Is it that you are mafia and know who the bad guys are?

Hmmm. Hmmm. Hmmm.

SackAttack 08-24-2005 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana
2. my user name is a character from a science fiction series set in the 26th century....the saldanas are from another galaxy, not italy[/b]


OOC: The Reality Dysfunction!

saldana 08-24-2005 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SackAttack
OOC: The Reality Dysfunction!


exactly, one of my favorite sci-fi books ever...nothing at all to do with italy.

SackAttack 08-24-2005 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana
exactly, one of my favorite sci-fi books ever...nothing at all to do with italy.


I finished the first two, but I couldn't find the middle two when I went to the bookstore two nights ago. I've heard iffy things about them...is it worth continuing with the Alchemist and Naked God duologies?

henry296 08-24-2005 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digamma
Henry,

What could be telling you that Blade is a good guy? Is it that you are mafia and know who the bad guys are?

Hmmm. Hmmm. Hmmm.


Just a gut feeling right now about Blade.

Mr. Wednesday 08-24-2005 01:53 PM

It's day one. Unless the seer wants to out himself (guaranteeing the mafia kill him by night two), there isn't going to be a whole lot of analysis today. After the fact, we'll look at the bandwagons that formed and be relatively befuddled anyway. I'm not sure there's a good day 1 strategy except for hope you get lucky, anyway... spread the votes out too much, and it's easy for the mafia to split their votes among a lot of people... focus on two or three people, and you get nothing out of it unless one is a bad guy.

This priest thing makes me a little nervous.

saldana 08-24-2005 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SackAttack
I finished the first two, but I couldn't find the middle two when I went to the bookstore two nights ago. I've heard iffy things about them...is it worth continuing with the Alchemist and Naked God duologies?


it was for me, when i read the alchemist, the naked god hadnt been written yet, and i actually put my name on the waiting list for it (i think i was the only one). i felt the story actually got alot better in the second part, but if you dont read them in close proximitiy to each other, you can easily forget what some of the storylines are. (there is actually an encyclopedia-like volume you can buy to refer back to)

Barkeep49 08-24-2005 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296
I know that Blade is a common victim, but we need to remember that each game is different. Something tells me he is a good guy this time.

This is bothering me quite a bit. Why play up knowledge you might have on the first day? If you don't have anything concrete and are truly just relying on intuition then why not simply suggest someone else or speak up at all? If you are the seer I hope you have not painted a big target on your back. But wouldn't it be a great way to get people to lay off of you if you pretend to be the seer? I guess I'm willing to to give you the benefit of the doubt for tonight but tomorrow, I just don't know... if you are still alive.

Anyhow it's been a day. Someone as experienced as Blade should know you can't go missing for a day without suspicion. I vote Blade

SackAttack 08-24-2005 02:13 PM

I think I'm gonna cast my gaze in henry's direction here. I still think Blade is a guy to be wary of, because he's shown in the past that he can be devious, but I'm a little puzzled as to why henry would start posting "gut feelings" this soon.

vote henry296

kingfc22 08-24-2005 02:30 PM

Vote Vince

He voted for a villager and I just can not accept that

henry296 08-24-2005 02:34 PM

Despite not doing anything at all in this game everyone is very quick to jump all over blade. I realize in the last game he did a great job, but each game is a different. I wish he would show up so everyone knows that he will be an active villager and that will eliminate the inactivity as a reason to vote for him. Then we can focus on bigger targets.

For their accusatory posts to my gut feelings digamma and SackAttack are in my crosshairs.

Since Sack is not willing to let go of the last game and thinks my comments about blade are mafia-like, I'll vote for him for now.

Vote SackAttack

digamma 08-24-2005 02:40 PM

This dude's a villager.

I guess there's no reason to hold off on voting. No real information out there.

Vote Bek. Another quiet one.

Poli 08-24-2005 02:41 PM

Vote MrBug.

No reason.

RPI-Fan 08-24-2005 02:45 PM

Vote Barkeep49.

Sometimes, less is more. Or, is it more is less? Or is it, I don't know my cliches?

SackAttack 08-24-2005 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296
Since Sack is not willing to let go of the last game and thinks my comments about blade are mafia-like, I'll vote for him for now.


No offense. I just gotta start somewhere on day 1. :)

Barkeep49 08-24-2005 03:00 PM

EDIT: Correct tally through sndvls' vote (post 105)

Here's the current, very tenative, tally.

2 - Blade (barkeep, lathum)
1 - Vince (kingfc)
1 - Kingfc (vince)
1 - Ardent (MrBug)
1 - Sack (henry)
1 - MrBug (ardent)
1 - Sack (henry)
1 - Bek (digamma)
1 - Saldana (cartman)
1 - Cartman (saldana)
1 - Barkeep49 (RPI-Fan)
1 - Lathum (dubbs)
1 - RPI Fan (raiders)
1 - RealDeal (Mr. W)
1 - RaidersArmy (sndvls)

That leaves 4 left to vote: Blade, realdeal, bek, pennywiseb

I am going to resist, for the moment, the urge to cast my own revenge vote and continue to hope that as voting gets later if Blade still hasn't shown up that he be given the first hanging as a matter of fairness.


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