Hrm. That's either a good bluff or a good argument.

My vote's wasted where it is at this point and don't want to deal with a tie. Render's putting his neck out there, let's see.

unvote daddy torgo
vote raider's army

You guys are making a mistake, but not a costly one. I'm just a vanilla villager.

BTW, I can't see what RendeR's posting. Maybe I should've taken him off ignore for the game.

LOL


That just cracked me the fuck UP....Nice.

I'm not sure if I should be happy or not that two people that are actually around for deadline are up on the block.

:lol:

Good game folks. Good luck villagers.

Well except that it should say Render 3, but yeah otherwise I think so, though I didn't keep good track.

I was afraid of that. Sorry Raiders.

That really hurts.

Well.

Well, crap. I was hoping the BG would have thrown him a block after his mostly reveal earlier.

Damnit. Was afraid of that.

Well that was quick....Good luck guys =(

The less said about that, the better.

That vote won't tell us a great deal, then, I imagine.

Is it correct that Hoops never showed up? Or did I miss that?

Hoops hasn't showed.

I also looked back through Render's posts tonight and didn't really see anything that might have hinted at what his n1 scan was.

Vote J23

I think he needs to be a candidate today, so I am putting his name in early.

Well, he stated he was thinking between DT and Chief, which makes it clear he at least didn't scan either of those, and had some knowledge that made him pick those in particular. Since those were the two I've voted, I feel comfortable continuing down my line of reasoning.

Since we no longer will get a scan result on Chief, I'm going to go back to him for now.

VOTE CHIEF RUM

This was the only post I can find that really points towards anything. Too bad he didn't ever state his reasons that I saw.

My vote will likely go to one of these two.

I called him tonight a few hours ago, and he had forgotten about it. He was busy with his daughter, but he did say he meant to stop in.

Of course, by popular reasoning he's probably a wolf since he's alive on day3 now.

Based on the night kill choice at least one wolf was likely active at deadline, considering two of the five who were active are now dead, that leaves Autumn, J23 and Me. Since both Autumn and J23 are leading us towards CR / DT, I tend to think those are bad choices.

My gut tells me Render scanned someone else that came up villager and that the wolves are going to try and lead us to a path to vote DT or CR (or both).

My guess is either Autumn or J23 (or both) decided to kill Render and already had his past post ready to lead everyone on the next vote.

I agree that it is likely there was a wolf around at deadline. I know the 3 of us were the ones still alive that were actively posting, but did you see if anyone was around and keeping up on the thread by chance? I believe Saldana might have been, but I'm not sure about that.

I've debated on this, but with the role the way it is and the seer dead, I'm going to come out with it. I am the bodyguard. I screwed up big time not protecting Render. I thought I picked up on someone earlier and put in a protect request for them and was too busy bickering with Raiders Army and I didn't notice Render's hinting at a role. Sorry guys.

I buy your reasoning, but not your list. I have DT and Saldana also as having been around at the end, for instance.

why do you think Render was suggesting those two? His statement I think makes clear that it was based on information he had, somehow related to his first scan I would think. I'm not sure what scan would lead him to those two, but it seems something to go on.

I don't know what J23 is thinking, but I'm certainly going to go back to chasing Chief. I voted him day one, and there was certainly movement day one that could have been leading away from him. If we're never going to get a scan on that, it makes good sense to check it out. Although actually I'll have to go back and look. I think Render was the most suspicious move to save Chief, which obviously is not longer suspicious.

I didn't specifically notice if Saldana was in thread at deadline, but I don't remember seeing him. I'd still have to think at least one of J23 or Autumn is a wolf.

Well, plenty of time for a counter-reveal so that argument is out of the picture :p

Going to go play some Black Ops. No class tomorrow, so I should be able to pop on earlier to answer any questions, etc.

One of these days I'll figure out why I'm always one of your first suspects in every game we play together Danny (or it seems that way at least).

It's your beady eyes ;)

If you hadn't revealed your argument would make me suspicious, Danny. Why is it not just as likely that Render was correct in his suspicions and the wolves are going to steer us away from his ideas? That seems the more likely scenario than the opposite. We know it was villager/villager at the end with no reason for the wolves to be butting into the conversation.

I don't see why he would have put down two names on equal footing if he had scanned one of them as a wolf. My guess is Render scanned someone as a villager and simply suspected those two of non role based feeling.

I certainly agree he obviously didn't scan either one of them, that's not my contention.

However, his wording makes clear to me that he has a reason to pick those two out that has to do with his role, given the fact that he says he has reasons he'll explain later. I assume he had reasons related to his role that he did not want to reveal. That's my takeaway at least.

And if he was just talking out of his ass like the rest of us, his two suspects match up with mine, so I have no problem going with them.

That sucks about render. Guess his posturing day one was to partly see who he should scan. Surprised the BG didn't get a block in but maybe they weren't following closely. Will have to review thread tmw.

Son of a bitch, that couldn't have gone worse. Well yeah it could've but not by much. Damn

I'm suddenly appearing and apologize to all for the inconvenience of not being at FOFC over the last couple of days.

I was cramming for a test (professional stuff) early in the week but just didn't recall the game was running or I would have at least done courtesy posts. Guess I've fallen out of the werewolf habit in a big way ...

We'll see after the game, but my bet is that he scanned me on Night 1 even with me not around during the day.

I can't come up with another explanation why I would never appear on RendeR's list of candidates after not being here for two days straight.

However, I'll try to go through his posts over the last couple of days tonight, before calling it an evening, to see if I can find anything in his posts that leans in another direction.

By the way, I'm stunned ... STUNNED! to not have attracted votes over the past couple of days. To the point where I'm kind of pondering this as a future strategy :)

Consider that I'm almost universally a top three candidate on days where I'm active in the thread, this is like a Costanza "opposite" approach for me.

Welcome hoops. Glad all is well.

Yep, now time to start stirring the pot :)

Player List
1) Chief Rum
2) saldana
3) Passacaglia - vanilla villager (day one lynch)
4) Lathum - Sam (night one kill)
5) The Jackal
6) Autumn
7) hoopsguy - villager (self-proclaimed as maker of this list)
8) Danny - has revealed as bodyguard
9) DaddyTorgo
10) Raiders Army - vanilla villager (day two lynch)
11) RendeR - The Frog Brothers (night two kill)
12) J23
13) Darth Vilus

Voting Records:
Day 1 votes:
Chief Rum 3 - Autumn (66), Raiers Army (74) Passacaglia (79)
Passacaglia 5 - saldana (72), Danny (81), DaddyTorgo (90), Lathum (98), RendeR (100)
Danny 2 - Darth Vilus (64), J23 (75)
Raiders Army 1 - Chief Rum (85)

No vote: The Jackal, hoopsguy

Day 2 votes:
Raiders Army 6 - DaddyTorgo (125), saldana (149), Danny (162), RendeR (198), J23 (199), Autumn (202)
RendeR 2 - The Jackal (144), Chief Rum (148), Raiders Army (171)
Chief Rum 1 - Darth Vilus (139)

No vote: hoopsguy


Day 2 vote was shaped by the RendeR "reveal" so really need to go look where people were earlier in the process.

So, here are my quick Day 1 notes:
Autumn in bad spot on Chief Rum as last remaining voter on leading candidate D1 (wolves tend to separate votes on D1, especially if not in danger)

Last two votes on Passacaglia are harmless - if Danny's reveal is to be believed then Saldana and DT look worse

DT + Saldana vote together on D1 and D2. Seems unlikely both are wolves.

Day 2 vote flow chart up to RendeR's pseudo reveal:
#122: RA votes Chief Rum (1-0)
#125: DT votes RA (1-1)
#139: DV votes Chief Rum (2-1 Rum over RA)
#144: Jackal votes RendeR (2-1-1 Rum over RA/RendeR)
#146: Autumn votes DT (2-1-1-1 Rum over RA/RendeR/DT)
#148: Rum votes RendeR (2-2-1-1 Rum/RendeR over RA/DT)
#149: Saldana votes RA (2-2-2-1 Rum/RendeR/RA over DT)
#158: Danny votes J23 (2-2-2-1-1 Rum/RendeR/RA over DT/J23)
#162: Danny unvotes J23, votes RA (3-2-2-1 RA over Rum/RendeR over DT)
#171: RA unvotes Rum, votes RendeR (3-3-1-1 RA/RendeR over DT/Rum)
#173: J23 votes RendeR (4-3-1-1 RendeR over RA over DT/Rum)

On RendeR at time of reveal = Jackal, Chief Rum, RA and J23