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JAG 05-01-2015 11:21 AM

Small game - Return of Werewolf Xtreme (Game over! Result in Post 401)
 
To fill the time until EF's game starts, I'll run a 9 player game that is a repeat of one Autumn did some years ago. The big change from most games is there are no roles revealed upon death. The first 9 to sign up will be in and off we'll go, start date of Monday or whenever it fills up.


Good Roles:

Seer - Each night receives a vision of a target player as 'wolf' or 'not wolf.' The seer receives a vision on Night 0 of one randomly chosen player that is 'not wolf.' Thereafter, the seer chooses which player to view.

Priest - Each night receives a vision of a target deceased player. The vision tells the priest that deceased player's exact role. The priest must choose one deceased player to view.

Hunter - If only two players remain in the game and the hunter is one of those players, then the good team wins even if the other player is a werewolf.

3 Villagers - Ordinary villagers with no special powers.


Evil Roles:

2 Werewolves - The werewolves know each other's identity, and may private message/chat without restriction. Each night the wolves choose one target player to kill.

Sorcerer - Each night receives a vision of a target player as 'seer' or 'not seer.' The sorcerer receives a vision on Night 0 of one randomly chosen player that is 'not seer.' Thereafter, the sorcerer chooses which player to view. The sorcerer wins if the wolves win, but counts as a villager for victory purposes. The Sorcerer does not know the wolves and the wolves do not know the Sorcerer.


Victory Conditions:

Good - All good players win if all werewolves are eliminated, or if the last two players remaining are the hunter and one werewolf. The sorcerer does not have to be eliminated in order for Good to win.

Evil - All evil players win if the wolves achieve parity: if at any time the number of wolves remaining equals the number of non-wolves remaining (including the sorcerer), evil wins. However, if one wolf is left with the hunter, then good wins. The sorcerer counts as a 'non-wolf' for these purposes.


DEADLINES

10 pm EST - Voting deadline. Any votes marked 10:01 or later will not count.

10:30 pm EST - Dawn deadline. Any night actions must be submitted by 10:30.

THE BASICS

Only edit posts within 5 minutes of the original post time and only for formatting / spelling / grammar.

No quoting of private messages.

No discussion of the game outside the thread.

Any player inactive for 36 hours will be replaced.

VOTING

Every day the village votes for who they wish to lynch. The player who receives the most votes by day's end will be killed.

In order to vote, please post your vote in bold and on a separate line.

You may change your vote at any time before the deadline by posting an unvote and then a new vote, both in bold. Nightfall votes must be unanimous and will still be dependent on my availability. Once you vote with Nightfall, your vote is locked and cannot be changed.

You may not self-vote or vote No Lynch.

Tie votes will be resolved by whichever candidate has the longest held vote on them.

REVEAL

Roles will not be revealed upon lynch or upon night kill. Only the Priest will have knowledge about the allegiance or role of any of the dead.

SIGN UPS

1. Grover
2. timmae
3. Shoveler
4. The Jackal
5. mysfit
6. cheekimonk
7. britrock - lynched D1
8. Chief Rum - killed N1
9. Autumn

Grover 05-01-2015 11:42 AM

In! First!

timmae 05-01-2015 11:48 AM

In. Grover's obviously a wolf again.

Grover 05-01-2015 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3025011)
In. Grover's obviously a wolf again.


If the skin of Red Riding Hood fits...

britrock88 05-01-2015 12:07 PM

Obligatory "ugh" of trying to cope with no role reveal.

I'm in if you need me. :)

The Jackal 05-01-2015 12:09 PM

In

mysfit 05-01-2015 12:47 PM

in

Chief Rum 05-01-2015 01:20 PM

I will play if you need me, but I would prefer to take this one off and let others play.

So put me down as an alternate and if you struggle to fill 9, I'll play.

cheekimonk 05-02-2015 05:17 AM

In

Autumn 05-02-2015 08:54 AM

Put me in as a maybe too. I'm willing to play but if there are nine others interested I can sit out (last week of class for the semester for me).

JAG 05-02-2015 09:09 AM

2-4 more slots available

britrock88 05-02-2015 12:15 PM

Top of the alternate list works for me, JAG. :)

Shoveler 05-02-2015 08:46 PM

In

JAG 05-03-2015 10:10 AM

Game will start Monday night / D1 Tuesday evening deadline, with alternates if needed or without if not.

timmae 05-03-2015 01:13 PM

Hell yes!

JAG 05-04-2015 07:44 PM

I'll be sending out roles within an hour or so. I'll post here with an official 'game on' post after that.

JAG 05-04-2015 09:09 PM

Roles were just sent out, please let me know right away if you did not receive one. The game has begun and you are free to post. Day 1 deadline is Tuesday 10:00pm EST. Good luck to everyone and have fun.

Vanilla villagers received the following PM:

You are a plain old villager.

timmae 05-04-2015 09:16 PM

Let's roll! Looking forward to having a small game, just some straight old werewolf hunting with standard roles. Fun stuff! So who's evil this game? Grover's always evil so we just need to find out who his accomplice is. Let's start here.

vote cheekimonk

Grover 05-04-2015 09:27 PM

checking in!

vote autumn

for being so clever at hiding being the seer last game!

cheekimonk 05-04-2015 09:30 PM

Sweet! I'll be covered up in the morning, but should be around the rest of the day.

timmae 05-04-2015 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekimonk (Post 3025769)
Sweet! I'll be covered up in the morning, but should be around the rest of the day.


Covering up those werewolf telltale signs are ya?!

mysfit 05-04-2015 09:40 PM

Vote Grover

because he was the last vote before mine

timmae 05-04-2015 09:41 PM

hey mysfit! Danzig fan??

mysfit 05-04-2015 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3025775)
hey mysfit! Danzig fan??


what's a Danzig?

timmae 05-04-2015 09:44 PM

The misfits?! One of the best early punk rock bands ever. Glenn Danzig is better known for his own band but the Misfits was the everest of his career if you ask me.

mysfit 05-04-2015 09:45 PM

Had to Google that...band

never heard of them

Been using this nick since '97 or so......descriptive

Would be more along the lines of Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer

mysfit 05-04-2015 09:45 PM

I assumed timmae is from South Park?

timmae 05-04-2015 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mysfit (Post 3025779)
I assumed timmae is from South Park?


Exactly... I have never seen south park (not 1 episode) but I worked with a guy who would always quote it. I used it as my username in 204 and it stuck with me. My name is Tim so...

timmae 05-04-2015 09:49 PM

2004 that should be.

JAG 05-04-2015 09:56 PM

Day 1 vote (as of Post 29):

Autumn 1 - Grover (19)
cheekimonk 1 - timmae (18)
Grover 1 - mysfit (22)

timmae 05-05-2015 06:49 AM

Morning all! I have meetings all day but will be able to check in periodically. I will mainly be around tonight.

Grover 05-05-2015 08:38 AM

Did everyone forget we were playing a game today!?

Shoveler 05-05-2015 08:45 AM

sorry, was about to post a little bit ago, but I received a phone call.. will have some thoughts shortly.

Autumn 05-05-2015 09:55 AM

Goddang it, for some reason I no longer get e-mails when I get a PM here, so my presence had to wait until I thought to check. But I am here!

Autumn 05-05-2015 09:55 AM

All right let's get to finding those wolves.

vote the jackal

Shoveler 05-05-2015 10:12 AM

So with no-reveal I would imagine our reads lists will be more important. Hopefully we can get some conversation going here this morning/afternoon.

Vote Britrock



britrock88 05-05-2015 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 3025843)
Goddang it, for some reason I no longer get e-mails when I get a PM here, so my presence had to wait until I thought to check. But I am here!


Check your spam folder? My notifications have been heading that way lately.

britrock88 05-05-2015 10:48 AM

Also, a little new player love!

VOTE mysfit

britrock88 05-05-2015 10:49 AM

I'm 6th out of 9 to check in.

Chief Rum 05-05-2015 10:56 AM

Lucky number seven?

Autumn 05-05-2015 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 3025853)
Check your spam folder? My notifications have been heading that way lately.


Good call, that's where it was. Google hates me.

Chief Rum 05-05-2015 11:04 AM

VOTE MYSFIT

Because she has already posted more than everyone, and being OTR (Over The Radar) is way, way wolfish.

(P.S. Welcome to the board lol)

Autumn 05-05-2015 11:05 AM

These small games are very tough. Only requires 4-5 votes to get lynched, and we've got two wolves and a sorceror. The benefit is the wolves are very hesitant to help each other out so if we can get one in the lead we're good. Vote movement tends to be more villager because of that.

britrock88 05-05-2015 11:13 AM

Thinking about our roles... the only people who have anything yet are the seer and sorc, who have N0 negatives.

I presume the priest will get an order in to view the D1 lynch.

britrock88 05-05-2015 11:13 AM

JAG: is the Sorc known to the Wolves, or vice versa?

britrock88 05-05-2015 11:15 AM

Seer has 2 wolves among a pool of 7 people and up to 3 scans left (presuming a lynch and NK every Day...).

Sorc has a pool of 7 in which to find 1 seer.

britrock88 05-05-2015 11:16 AM

Does anyone have thoughts on the priest's approach for D2 and forward? (As in, is it more valuable to investigate lynch or NK victims?) ((As in, should he look for dead wolves or dead power roles? :p ))

JAG 05-05-2015 11:17 AM

Day 1 vote (as of Post 46):

mysfit 2 - britrock (38), Chief Rum (42)
Autumn 1 - Grover (19)
britrock 1 - Shoveler (36)
cheekimonk 1 - timmae (18)
Grover 1 - mysfit (22)
The Jackal 1 - Autumn (35)

britrock88 05-05-2015 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 3025857)
Lucky number seven?


Actually, cheeki checked in, but didn't vote. So Jackal's the holdout. He'll turn up.

JAG 05-05-2015 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 3025866)
JAG: is the Sorc known to the Wolves, or vice versa?


The Sorceror does not know the wolves and the wolves do not know the Sorceror

Autumn 05-05-2015 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 3025870)
Does anyone have thoughts on the priest's approach for D2 and forward? (As in, is it more valuable to investigate lynch or NK victims?) ((As in, should he look for dead wolves or dead power roles? :p ))


Ironically, I don't have a feeling for this, despite being the one that has multiple times forced this role and ruleset on you unhappy FOFCers. I always hoped Hoopsguy or someone would figure out the ideal way to play with priest type roles.

I assume it's best to clear up our lynches, so we know if we hit a wolf, with the exception being if the priest thinks perhaps the wolves hit a seer. But it's going to be hard for them to play.

mysfit 05-05-2015 11:33 AM

Unvote Grover

Vote Chief Rum

for piling on a villager because she's chatty

mysfit 05-05-2015 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 3025860)
VOTE MYSFIT

Because she has already posted more than everyone, and being OTR (Over The Radar) is way, way wolfish.

(P.S. Welcome to the board lol)



If you followed Bug's and Mug's games you would know I am ALWAYS chatty

Maybe because over half the group is UTR but still

Thank you for the welcome, wolf. Looking forward to games with most people being involved rather than just showing up to vote

;)

britrock88 05-05-2015 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 3025874)
I assume it's best to clear up our lynches, so we know if we hit a wolf, with the exception being if the priest thinks perhaps the wolves hit a seer. But it's going to be hard for them to play.


I'm inclined to agree with you. We _know_ which way NKs will count (for parity, at least--they could catch the sorc, hence my modQ). Lynches can run the gamut, though, so I think they're worth more information on the margin.

Then again, we might find that a very interesting day/night sequence makes it potentially rewarding to check the NK... But I'd lean toward the priest viewing daytime targets, I think.

The Jackal 05-05-2015 12:14 PM

Vote Grover

I think he's pretty close to taking my "always a wolf" mantle

The Jackal 05-05-2015 12:15 PM

Fairly busy day at work lined up, will probably have more time later on

The Jackal 05-05-2015 12:16 PM

I tend to lean towards the Priest scanning the lynch victims since without that knowledge it's going to be super tough to do vote analysis

The Jackal 05-05-2015 12:21 PM

So, if we don't hit a wolf (or sorceror) on D1 or D2 it'd look like:

2-2-1 .. still not endgame depending on what the priest has been able to reveal, since the sorceror doesn't know who the wolves are. but it'd be getting tight. this game has the potential for some very interesting scenarios

Grover 05-05-2015 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 3025895)
Vote Grover

I think he's pretty close to taking my "always a wolf" mantle


So if I'm village this time, that makes you a wolf.

Chief Rum 05-05-2015 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mysfit (Post 3025880)
If you followed Bug's and Mug's games you would know I am ALWAYS chatty

Maybe because over half the group is UTR but still

Thank you for the welcome, wolf. Looking forward to games with most people being involved rather than just showing up to vote

;)


Haha yeah I noticed. ;)

I'll leave my vote on you for now for fun, but assuming you don't do anything terribly wolfish, I'll probably switch to a relevant vote at some point today.

Grover 05-05-2015 01:11 PM

It has been unusually quiet around these parts today.

You're all wolves. All of you. Except me. I'm a villager.

JAG 05-05-2015 01:17 PM

Day 1 vote (as of Post 61):

mysfit 2 - britrock (38), Chief Rum (42)
Autumn 1 - Grover (19)
britrock 1 - Shoveler (36)
Chief Rum 1 - mysfit (52)
cheekimonk 1 - timmae (18)
Grover 1 - The Jackal (55)
The Jackal 1 - Autumn (35)

britrock88 05-05-2015 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 3025907)
Haha yeah I noticed. ;)

I'll leave my vote on you for now for fun, but assuming you don't do anything terribly wolfish, I'll probably switch to a relevant vote at some point today.


Well, hell, am I supposed to wait on you before shifting off mysfit? :p

Autumn 05-05-2015 02:01 PM

That is a crazy vote spread.

unvote
vote chief rum

Chief Rum 05-05-2015 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 3025925)
That is a crazy vote spread.

unvote
vote chief rum


Man I give you a seer role, and you do that to me. To me?!? :eek:

timmae 05-05-2015 02:47 PM

Checking in before my commute home. I think priest scanning the lynch/nk victims gives us the most information. Not much content to go on yet but I will be on tonight.

mysfit 05-05-2015 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3025935)
Checking in before my commute home. I think priest scanning the lynch/nk victims gives us the most information. Not much content to go on yet but I will be on tonight.


Since the Priest can only scan the deceased, lynch or NK are the only ones he CAN scan...............

I mean is there any other way to become deceased?

Chief Rum 05-05-2015 02:51 PM

UNVOTE MYSFIT

Okay, done playing around (especially as my random vote was putting misfit in a tie for the vote lead).

Chief Rum 05-05-2015 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mysfit (Post 3025936)
Since the Priest can only scan the deceased, lynch or NK are the only ones he CAN scan...............

I mean is there any other way to become deceased?


I think the point of discussion was whether to scan lynchees or nightkill victims, as it would be one or the other.

As you note, there aren't really many ways to die.

britrock88 05-05-2015 03:34 PM

Yeah, timmae, it's some combination of those two options, and no more.

britrock88 05-05-2015 03:36 PM

Quick tally update sees mysfit with 1, Jackal with 0, and Chief with 2.

I will...

UNVOTE mysfit
VOTE cheekimonk


(Chief and cheeki aren't voting anyone currently.)

britrock88 05-05-2015 03:37 PM

So that's Chief/cheeki 2, Autumn/brit/Grover 1.

Grover 05-05-2015 03:38 PM

unvote Autumn
vote cheekimonk

Chief Rum 05-05-2015 03:52 PM

Insert ChrisTuckerFridayDriveBy image

timmae 05-05-2015 03:57 PM

Darn smartphone... I think priest reading lynch victims is the way to go. That way we will know if our reads are accurate or if we need to readjust.

I will reread when I get to my CPU and get an actual, i.e. Not meta, vote in.

cheekimonk 05-05-2015 03:59 PM

Sorry everyone. Catching up. On a quick read...

vote britrock88

timmae 05-05-2015 05:00 PM

Hey shoveler.. What are your thoughts man!
unvote cheekimonk
Vote shoveler

Grover 05-05-2015 05:25 PM

*crickets*

timmae 05-05-2015 05:36 PM

**waves at grover**

Grover 05-05-2015 05:37 PM

Hi tim!

Chief Rum 05-05-2015 05:41 PM

We have a lot of spread here. Heck, even if you all consolidate on me, get off these individual votes. Killing me does the village no good, but consolidating the vote does and it may prove useful later when the priest and seer reveal their findings.

Chief Rum 05-05-2015 05:42 PM

VOTE CHEEKIMONK

Self-defense.

Chief Rum 05-05-2015 05:43 PM

For the record, my posting leading up to the deadline will be sporadic, but I will be checking in.

JAG 05-05-2015 05:43 PM

Day 1 vote (as of Post 82):

cheekimonk 3 - britrock88 (71), Grover (73), Chief Rum (82)
britrock 2 - Shoveler (36), cheekimonk (76)
Chief Rum 2 - mysfit (52), Autumn (64)
Grover 1 - The Jackal (55)
Shoveler 1 - timmae (77)

timmae 05-05-2015 05:50 PM

We have like 3 hours to go before hitting lynch chaos... Lots of time left. Need to finish cooking wine first! I will be back.. With my reads (however early and/or inaccurate as they may be).

Raven 05-05-2015 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3025780)
My name is Tim so...


I hope that "hi tim!" can become the new "hey brad!"

Shoveler 05-05-2015 06:08 PM

Sorry timmae, I quit checking the thread earlier when nothing was happening. To be honest I was waiting for you to start posting so I could figure you out since you seem to be the only person I can (somewhat) accurately read.

I'm good with my vote for now. There is still plenty of time left tonight before lynch. But I am not seeing much to go off of from anyone right now.

Grover 05-05-2015 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven (Post 3025985)
I hope that "hi tim!" can become the new "hey brad!"


let it begin!

timmae 05-05-2015 06:53 PM

Hi everyone!

So cheeks... are you saying you are all caught up? Anything else to add? Wolf have your tongue?! Donner party?

The Jackal 05-05-2015 06:53 PM

unvote Grover

The Jackal 05-05-2015 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 3025973)
We have a lot of spread here. Heck, even if you all consolidate on me, get off these individual votes. Killing me does the village no good, but consolidating the vote does and it may prove useful later when the priest and seer reveal their findings.


Hm, I can't decide what I think of this post.

timmae 05-05-2015 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoveler (Post 3025987)
Sorry timmae, I quit checking the thread earlier when nothing was happening. To be honest I was waiting for you to start posting so I could figure you out since you seem to be the only person I can (somewhat) accurately read.

I'm good with my vote for now. There is still plenty of time left tonight before lynch. But I am not seeing much to go off of from anyone right now.


So how am I reading? I know the answer so your answer could tell me lots. Don't want to fall victim now.

The Jackal 05-05-2015 06:54 PM

But for now, I'll:

vote cheeki

Shoveler 05-05-2015 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3025996)
So how am I reading? I know the answer so your answer could tell me lots. Don't want to fall victim now.


Right now you are in the "no clue" section. I need to see your reads, which I know would be hard to put together right now, but that's how I can figure out if you are on the level or not.

britrock88 05-05-2015 06:57 PM

Back in action. Jackal's revote takes Chief out of cheeki's reach for a self-defense tying vote.

timmae 05-05-2015 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoveler (Post 3025999)
Right now you are in the "no clue" section. I need to see your reads, which I know would be hard to put together right now, but that's how I can figure out if you are on the level or not.


Working on them... some of you haven't given me much to go on. Into the night we go.

Grover 05-05-2015 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoveler (Post 3025999)
Right now you are in the "no clue" section.


I'm guessing this is a rather large pool of people at the moment.

britrock88 05-05-2015 07:07 PM

Indeed. If I am at the top of the post leaderboard, we should be quaking with fear.

Grover 05-05-2015 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3026001)
Working on them... some of you haven't given me much to go on. Into the night we go.


but the night is dark...


... and full of terrors!

timmae 05-05-2015 07:19 PM

Grasping for straws here but since we are on a dead end road here goes nothing...

Leaning good: Grover (would a guy who's been wolf like every single game draw attention to himself by posting wierd stuff... methinks not), britrock (wifom is possible but I am reading good here, trying to figure out game)

Neutral: mysfit (chatty back and forth, no bad vibes but have no meta), chief rum (here and posting but not sure on content, wierd mysfit vote, joke maybe, then self protect vote), jackal (afk for a bit, want to hear his thoughts about game strategy)

Slight evil: Autumn (a bit of game strategy posts early, then a quick vote, I almost expect more content here), cheeki (seems reserved, only 2 posts, no humor, is he covering or is this good cheeki), Shoveler (here but not much content, will base his read of me on my reads which seems odd)


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