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Kodos 07-27-2009 09:18 AM

Conference USA (Xbox 360 NCAA 2010 OD) to start this week--what I need from you
 
I'm hoping to have the league up and running by Thursday night. I'm going out of town Friday thru Sunday, so the deadline would be Monday or Tuesday for the first stage (I haven't researched which stage that is just yet, but it's probably setting up a recruiting board or a schedule). Anything that is bolded, I would like feedback on.

League Alignment

Here are the alignments. We either need some fake teams to put in for the CPU squads, or I would also be open to re-creating real teams that have been modified to fit our star system setup. Do you prefer real or fake teams to fill the CPU slots? So far, I have the North Dallas Plague created as a fake team for the CPU.

Special note: Wade -- you may want to try modifying your team, as they do allow hyphens. I used one for Odessa-Permian when I was creating DeTox's team.

Fake CPU Teams

Code:

East (Florida):
5*  Unnamed team            CPU
4*  Unnamed team            CPU
3*  GarField Indians        Wade Moore
2*  Gibbs Gladiators        Mike1409
2*  Fairport Red Raiders    Kodos
1*  Allendale                cmp

West (Texas):
5*  North Dallas Plague?    CPU
4*  Unnamed team            CPU
3*  Tucker Mountain Lions    WVUFAN
2*  Pinckney Pirates        allpro10050
2*  Egg Harbor Eagles        EaglesFan27
1*  Odessa-Permian Panthers  DeTox


or

Real CPU teams

Code:

East (Florida):
5*  *Miami Hurricanes        (*modified in teambuilder)
4*  *USF Bulls              (*modified in teambuilder)
3*  GarField Indians        Wade Moore
2*  Gibbs Gladiators        Mike1409
2*  Fairport Red Raiders    Kodos
1*  Allendale                cmp

West (Texas):
5*  *Texas Tech              (*modified in teambuilder)
4*  *TCU                    (*modified in teambuilder)
3*  Tucker Mountain Lions    WVUFAN
2*  Pinckney Pirates        allpro10050
2*  Egg Harbor Eagles        EaglesFan27
1*  Odessa-Permian Panthers  DeTox


Do you have a preference for real names, or fake names, since Conference USA will not have any real players?

Our conference will have no real players in it, but the rest of the NCAA can if we want them too. If you want real names, what is the preferred renamed roster set?

What I need from each of you:

Please make sure that your created team has the correct number of stars, and also uses the system below for recruiting strengths and weaknesses. Once your team is "up to code", let me know in this thread. For guys who I'm creating teams for, let me know you preferences. (EF27 already has, still waiting to hear back from DeTox.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 2081595)
There are eleven recruiting categories your created team gets rated on. Feel free to give your teams the following distributions of ratings in any way you like:

3 A's
4 B's
4 C's

Academic Prestige
Campus Lifestyle
Coach Experience
Coach Prestige
Championship Contender
Athletic Facilities
Fan Base
Pro Potential
Program Stability
Program Tradition
Television Exposure


Sliders

I saw EF was using some sliders in the NCAA thread. Do you like them? I have done no research on sliders, and would like to know if people have preferred sliders. I assume we will be playing on All-American.

Rivals

Apparently, each created team only gets to keep one rival when we swap them in place of a real team. I'm going to try to research this and figure out who would get who. Let me know if you have a preferred rival, and I will try to accomodate you.

Wait list:
1. BigDPW
2. Butter_of_69

Eaglesfan27 07-27-2009 10:58 AM

I like the sliders, but I think I will like the recent changes he has made even more. I should get a chance to try them out more times by the time we are ready to play games. He lowered QB accuracy which I think was still too high, so I think he is fine tuning them in the right direction.

As far as real CPU or fake teams, I have absolutely no preference.

I have no real preference for a rival either, but I think it would be cool for it to be one of the human teams in my division if we can set that.

Mike1409 07-27-2009 01:32 PM

I prefer real teams and names.
The slider set(Junit40)is pretty good. I havent seen the latest tweaks.
My created team is ready. I might tweak the uni's one more time

DeToxRox 07-27-2009 01:35 PM

Real teams and names but it's not a big deal.

Kodos 07-27-2009 01:57 PM

Okay. Looks like we'll do real names, real teams, and use JUnit40's sliders. I'll work on teambuilder versions of TT, TCU, Miami, and USF.

What's the best roster set?

Kodos 07-27-2009 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike1409 (Post 2082714)
I prefer real teams and names.
The slider set(Junit40)is pretty good. I havent seen the latest tweaks.
My created team is ready. I might tweak the uni's one more time


You've got a few days. I'll be sure to check for updates before I start importing for the dynasty.

Eaglesfan27 07-27-2009 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 2082732)
Okay. Looks like we'll do real names, real teams, and use JUnit40's sliders. I'll work on teambuilder versions of TT, TCU, Miami, and USF.

What's the best roster set?


I'm sure there is some debate, but I think the OS community roster set is the best of the ones out there right now. It can be downloaded from a bunch of gamertags including where I got it:

THE MASSACRE771

Kodos 07-27-2009 02:23 PM

I tried to download that one (and the other three associated with it) the other day, but it didn't work. I'll try again at some point.

Eaglesfan27 07-27-2009 02:25 PM

After I finish this dynasty game (first one with the newest tweaks), I'll upload their roster to my gamertag.

Eaglesfan27 07-27-2009 03:30 PM

Dola -

The OSRoster is now uploaded to my gamertag.

I like the lowered QB accuracy in the latest slider tweaks, however, they are more friendly to the human player and I'm thinking we might want to go with a slight compromise of them as I don't think we should slant anything towards the human player with the talent level that we have in the league.

Kodos 07-27-2009 03:58 PM

I'm pretty much down with whatever sliders you suggest. :)

And thanks for setting up the roster with your gamertag. I'll try to grab them next time I'm on.

WVUFAN 07-27-2009 09:51 PM

I'm having a dickens of a time linking my gamertag to my EA Account. I might need someone to make my team if they have a chance, because it's just not letting me sync them.

Kodos 07-27-2009 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVUFAN (Post 2083228)
I'm having a dickens of a time linking my gamertag to my EA Account. I might need someone to make my team if they have a chance, because it's just not letting me sync them.



Let's see if Wade will do it. I just spent 3 or 4 hours making teams--I'm a bit burnt out. :)

Kodos 07-28-2009 12:29 AM

I've recreated Texas Tech, TCU, Miami, and USF using teambuilder to give them the proper stars for our setup. I carried over their existing ratings, playbooks, rosters, stadiums, etc. Feel free to download them and take a look at the uniforms to see if I have butchered them, if you care about such things. I did my best, but I'm sure I did some things that would catch hell from diehard fans of the teams.

wade moore 07-28-2009 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 2083347)
Let's see if Wade will do it. I just spent 3 or 4 hours making teams--I'm a bit burnt out. :)


Yup, I can help out.

Yesterday was an INSANE day at work, hopefully today is more calm.

WVU - have you posted somewhere what your team is? Do you mind reposting?


I'm cool with all of the decisions made. If we were picking rivals, I'd pick mike - but I don't want you fighting through the rival stuff just for my sake, so if everyone else is fine with letting the chips fall where they may, I am too.

Did we decide what roster we're starting with?

I'm going to team builder today to adjust my recruiting rankings, etc.

wade moore 07-28-2009 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 2082548)
Special note: Wade -- you may want to try modifying your team, as they do allow hyphens. I used one for Odessa-Permian when I was creating DeTox's team.


Was this in-game or on the web? On the web it clears out the name every time I try to add the hyphen.

Kodos 07-28-2009 08:44 AM

Yeah, I grabbed the roster that EF27 put under his gamertag.

Here's what still needs to happen from my mini-test franchise setup yesterday:

Allendale: Needs to employ the recruting 3 A's, 4 B's, 4 C's rule, unless they want more of a challenge (they rated themselves low almost across the board).

Garfield has too many stars, and is rated too high in the recruiting categories.

Tucker also needs to adjust their recruiting rankings - they're too high.

I wasn't able to find MGoblue14's Pinckney Pirates yet. Just looked on the web in Teambuilder, and it doesn't find anything for MGoblue14.

Kodos 07-28-2009 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 2083535)
Was this in-game or on the web? On the web it clears out the name every time I try to add the hyphen.


On the web. Maybe they have changed it since you last tried.

wade moore 07-28-2009 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 2083540)
On the web. Maybe they have changed it since you last tried.


I tried it right before posting ;).

Kodos 07-28-2009 08:51 AM

Updated list with gamertags.

Code:

East (Florida):
5*  +Miami Hurricanes      CPU
4*  +USF Bulls            CPU     
3*  Gar-Field Indians      wade moore  wademoore
2*  Gibbs Gladiators      Mike1409    Mike1409
2*  Fairport Red Raiders  Kodos      Kodos For Prez
1*  Allendale              cmp        cmp343

West (Texas):
5*  +Texas Tech            CPU
4*  +TCU                  CPU
3*  Tucker Mountain Lions  WVUFAN      WVUFan1971
2*  Pinckney Pirates      allpro10050  MGoblue14
2*  Egg Harbor Eagles      EaglesFan27  EaglesFan27
1*  Permian Panthers      DeToxRox    DeToxRox

+=modified in teambuilder


wade moore 07-28-2009 08:53 AM

Oh - and what roster are we supposed to be using? Cupcake?

Kodos 07-28-2009 09:05 AM

Cupcake.

wade moore 07-28-2009 09:15 AM

I see Detox listed as the Permian Panthers. Did you maybe do Odessa-Permian for the City? It appears to allow them for cities.

Anyway, to make it look less ugly, I'm changing it to Garfield.

Ok - mine should be good now.

3*
Cupcake Roster
3 A's, 4 B's, 4 C's
Garfield
Listed as a I-A school

I think my bases are covered.

wade moore 07-28-2009 09:15 AM

Oh, and I'm in Dale City, FL instead of Dale City, VA.

Kodos 07-28-2009 09:19 AM

Looks like you've covered the bases.

I had it as Odessa-Permian in the first slot, but Detox just wanted it to be Permian, so no they are Permian and the city is Odessa.

wade moore 07-28-2009 09:21 AM

Cool. It's really not that big of a deal to me, so not worth stressing over.

Kodos 07-28-2009 09:32 AM

If anyone can find a large version of the Miami Hurricanes logo that has the white outline on a color background, could you direct me to it? I'm not really happy with the one I was able to find, but they seem to usually come on a white background that doesn't let you keep the white outline around the logo.

DeToxRox 07-28-2009 11:58 AM

Thanks in advance for doin this Kodos. This seems like one big headache to get off the ground and I truly appreciate it.

Kodos 07-28-2009 12:09 PM

It has been a pain in the butt, but hopefully we'll get a lot of fun out of it in the coming year.

WVUFAN 07-28-2009 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 2083544)
Updated list with gamertags.

Code:

East (Florida):
5*  +Miami Hurricanes      CPU
4*  +USF Bulls            CPU     
3*  Gar-Field Indians      wade moore  wademoore
2*  Gibbs Gladiators      Mike1409    Mike1409
2*  Fairport Red Raiders  Kodos      Kodos For Prez
1*  Allendale              cmp        The Worm II

West (Texas):
5*  +Texas Tech            CPU
4*  +TCU                  CPU
3*  Tucker Mountain Lions  WVUFAN      eroy486
2*  Pinckney Pirates      allpro10050  MGoblue14
2*  Egg Harbor Eagles      EaglesFan27  EaglesFan27
1*  Permian Panthers      DeToxRox    DeToxRox

+=modified in teambuilder



My gamertag is wvufan1971.

Kodos 07-28-2009 12:25 PM

Yep. Just saw that in the Madden thread. Thanks for the heads up.

cmp 07-28-2009 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 2083539)
Yeah, I grabbed the roster that EF27 put under his gamertag.

Here's what still needs to happen from my mini-test franchise setup yesterday:

Allendale: Needs to employ the recruting 3 A's, 4 B's, 4 C's rule, unless they want more of a challenge (they rated themselves low almost across the board).

Garfield has too many stars, and is rated too high in the recruiting categories.

Tucker also needs to adjust their recruiting rankings - they're too high.

I wasn't able to find MGoblue14's Pinckney Pirates yet. Just looked on the web in Teambuilder, and it doesn't find anything for MGoblue14.



As soon as I get a chance here today I will update my team. I'm going to use cmp343 as my gamertag instead of The Worm II

Kodos 07-28-2009 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmp (Post 2083741)
As soon as I get a chance here today I will update my team. I'm going to use cmp343 as my gamertag instead of The Worm II


I'll update this in my lists.

Kodos 07-28-2009 01:44 PM

Updated list with gamertags.

Code:

East (Florida):
5*  +Miami Hurricanes      CPU
4*  +USF Bulls            CPU     
3*  Gar-Field Indians      wade moore  wademoore
2*  Gibbs Gladiators      Mike1409    Mike1409
2*  Fairport Red Raiders  Kodos      Kodos For Prez
1*  Allendale              cmp        cmp343

West (Texas):
5*  +Texas Tech            CPU
4*  +TCU                  CPU
3*  Tucker Mountain Lions  WVUFAN      WVUFan1971
2*  Pinckney Pirates      allpro10050  MGoblue14
2*  Egg Harbor Eagles      EaglesFan27  EaglesFan27
1*  Permian Panthers      DeToxRox    DeToxRox

+=modified in teambuilder


Eaglesfan27 07-28-2009 05:21 PM

Just in case you missed it, Kodos. I will be out of town (and away from a computer or Xbox) from Friday morning through Monday night. Hopefully, that doesn't cause me to miss any deadlines or hold anything up. I might check in briefly using my phone during those days, but otherwise will be out of action.

Kodos 07-28-2009 05:48 PM

Yeah, I saw that. Don't worry. We'll make sure you get to do your stuff before we move ahead. :)

wade moore 07-28-2009 07:27 PM

And I will be out from Monday until Monday. I may have to take my xbox to my inlaws - that would make it just Tuesday through Friday.

Kodos 07-28-2009 10:07 PM

Welp, after some research, I can say with confidence that rivalries are f'ed up. One team gets three humans, the entire West conference gets no human rivalries, some have rivals but only outside C*USA. Awesome.

WVUFAN 07-29-2009 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 2083472)
WVU - have you posted somewhere what your team is? Do you mind reposting?


Yeah -- Tucker County Mountain Lions -- based in Hambleton (I think I'm in the FL division). Black and Gold uniforms -- Black tops with gold trim, and gold pants. Black helmets with Golden T (exactly like the Tennessee "T" on their helmets, just different color.

Academic Prestige -- C
Campus Lifestyle -- C
Coach Experience -- B
Coach Prestige -- B
Championship Contender -- A
Athletic Facilities -- B
Fan Base -- C
Pro Potential -- B
Program Stability -- C
Program Tradition -- A
Television Exposure -- A

wade moore 07-29-2009 09:52 AM

Hm... I'm finding some created ones out there that are a little different, but clearly are trying to be the same school.

One has "TC" with the C wrapped around the T and some sort of annoying effect inside.

One has some weird "The Cats" logo.

One has "Tucker County" written out.

One that did what you're saying, but just used the Tennessee logo not modified ;).



Anyway, I'll try to get this done right tonight. I MAY be able to do it at work, but if not I can tonight.

Kodos 07-29-2009 10:14 AM

Some of this may be redundant info. If so, please ignore it.

Allendale (cmp): You need to use the 3 A's, 4 B's, 4 C's rule to modify your recruiting ratings. Also, you need to change your roster to the proper "cupcake" roster.

Pinckney (allpro): I can't find a team when I search by MGoblue14. Please add it or find someone to create it for you.

Tucker (WVUfan): You need to adjust your recruiting, stars, and set your roster to cupcake. I'm confused about what's going on. When I search on WVUFAN1971, it shows Tucker, but you're having Wade create it for you again. Can you no longer make changes to the team due to the problems you mentioned earlier?

WVUFAN 07-29-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 2084379)
Hm... I'm finding some created ones out there that are a little different, but clearly are trying to be the same school.

One has "TC" with the C wrapped around the T and some sort of annoying effect inside.

One has some weird "The Cats" logo.

One has "Tucker County" written out.

One that did what you're saying, but just used the Tennessee logo not modified ;).



Anyway, I'll try to get this done right tonight. I MAY be able to do it at work, but if not I can tonight.


They've changed the helmet logo a couple of times since I graduated. I think they use some picture now, but when I was in school, it was the "T". If you could use that, that would be great!

Eaglesfan27 07-29-2009 04:29 PM

Just tried my first game of Junit's latest sliders which have accuracy way down for the QB. Most games I was over 60-65% with Corp, but ND was constantly pressuring me and with this setting, you just can't pass it if you are under pressure unless you get lucky. I ended up completing 40% (14 of 35) of my passes but 2 of them were plays where I caught them early off the blitz and got long gains out of it.

Meanwhile, Clausen finished with 52% completion, mainly because Taylor Mays was constantly hitting guys causing them to drop his passes. I don't think it was my imagination that even shorter passes seemed to be slightly high, making the CPU's guys have to leap to get them and setting them up for huge hits from the safeties. The good news is that his old sliders were at 35 for accuracy and these are at 10. Either at 10 or somewhere in between, I think we could get end up getting a very realistic number of bad passes. Oh yeah, the truly best part is that while my passes were very inaccurate, none of those were picked. However, I did throw 1 pick when I just made a stupid throw into double coverage.

wade moore 07-29-2009 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVUFAN (Post 2084604)
They've changed the helmet logo a couple of times since I graduated. I think they use some picture now, but when I was in school, it was the "T". If you could use that, that would be great!


Starting this now. Hoping that maybe Kodos is around to get things setup tonight if I can do this quickly.

wade moore 07-29-2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 2084396)
Some of this may be redundant info. If so, please ignore it.

Allendale (cmp): You need to use the 3 A's, 4 B's, 4 C's rule to modify your recruiting ratings. Also, you need to change your roster to the proper "cupcake" roster.

Pinckney (allpro): I can't find a team when I search by MGoblue14. Please add it or find someone to create it for you.

Tucker (WVUfan): You need to adjust your recruiting, stars, and set your roster to cupcake. I'm confused about what's going on. When I search on WVUFAN1971, it shows Tucker, but you're having Wade create it for you again. Can you no longer make changes to the team due to the problems you mentioned earlier?


It looks like he's the one I saw where they just took the orange UT logo and worked around it.

WVU - you need to let me know what you want your recruiting settings to be.

wade moore 07-29-2009 07:02 PM

Dola - oops, it's up in your previous post. Nevermind.

wade moore 07-29-2009 07:23 PM

I had to take a guess at the shade of gold and the away uni's. Let me know if you want changes, but if not then these are ready for Kodos to grab. (ok, I need about 5 minutes to put in the recruiting rankings)

EDIT: I realized the socks and shoes looked weird - changed them both to black.




DeToxRox 07-29-2009 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 2084729)
Just tried my first game of Junit's latest sliders which have accuracy way down for the QB. Most games I was over 60-65% with Corp, but ND was constantly pressuring me and with this setting, you just can't pass it if you are under pressure unless you get lucky. I ended up completing 40% (14 of 35) of my passes but 2 of them were plays where I caught them early off the blitz and got long gains out of it.

Meanwhile, Clausen finished with 52% completion, mainly because Taylor Mays was constantly hitting guys causing them to drop his passes. I don't think it was my imagination that even shorter passes seemed to be slightly high, making the CPU's guys have to leap to get them and setting them up for huge hits from the safeties. The good news is that his old sliders were at 35 for accuracy and these are at 10. Either at 10 or somewhere in between, I think we could get end up getting a very realistic number of bad passes. Oh yeah, the truly best part is that while my passes were very inaccurate, none of those were picked. However, I did throw 1 pick when I just made a stupid throw into double coverage.


I played my first dynasty game with those sliders. I am using SMU (1* Prestige) and I beat Western Kentucky 52-31 but was down until the fourth quarter when my one good player, a WR, finally took control. My QB was something like 23 for 48 for 343 yards with 4 TD and 3 INT. I also ran for 120 yards. WKU threw for like 400 yards but had 4 INT. Basically the INT were from just terrible throws that were perfectly okay considering how bad each QB was and it was raining.

I think it was the most satisfying game of NCAA I have played in a long, long time.

WVUFAN 07-29-2009 07:54 PM

That's absolutely perfect, wade. That's what I want the uniforms to look like.

wade moore 07-29-2009 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVUFAN (Post 2084854)
That's absolutely perfect, wade. That's what I want the uniforms to look like.



Sweet - then it's saved on my profile for you Kodos:

FL
3 *'s
The Recruiting rankings WVU put above
Cupcake


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