Great job henry!

Good try Sack.

But more importantly let's hope we get lucky tonight!

Way to go Henry, you sure as hell shut me up. Hopefully we can get him some protection tonight.

What the fuck are you talking about. Are you admitting to being mafia here or what?

Didn't even get to make it that far :(

And *this* is why you don't out yourself over the first Mafia you find. :p

Well played, henry. We weren't planning on knocking you off for at least another day or two, but when you outed me, I realized that I either had to turn the tide or take you down with me. Couldn't do the former, so...

Good luck, everybody else! :D

(Sorry Sack, henry, everyone... I screwed the pooch on that one. Must still be sleepy. Heh. If you're too lazy to go back to page 6, here's the results)

SackAttack - henry296, saldana, digamma, Raiders Army, Mr. Wednesday, kingfc22, ardent enthusiast, RPI-Fan, RealDeal, MrBug708, Barkeep49, Lathum
henry296 - dubb93, SackAttack
ardent enthusiast - blade6119
saldana - cartman

You all gather around SackAttack, who says that he's no part of any Mafia! As you get ready to string him up... he starts runnning away! You chase him all the way towards one of the deep wells in the Village. He stands precariously on the edge, and has a gun pointed to his chin.

"You're all idiots! There's some wierd shit going on... we're all getting eaten... and all you care about is nabbing Mafioso!? If I die, I die by my own way!"

Sack then turns the gun at henry296...

"Not before I kill you, you motherf-"

A bullet penetrates deep into henry296's skull. He slumps dead on the ground. SackAttack then turns the gun on himself. SackAttack pulls the trigger. His body slumps backwards and falls into the well. You all head towards his room and look around... you find a seal of some sort, perhaps Mafioso? You then decide that SackAttack was Mafia!

You look around henry296's room... and find a ton of stuff regarding mafia et al. henry296 was the Investigator!

1. kingfc22
2. Blade6119
3. Vince - ???, killed Night 1
4. SackAttack - Mafia Lieutenant, lynched Day 2
5. MrBug708
6. dubb93
7. ardent enthusiast
8. raiders army
9. Lathum
10. saldana
11. Mr. Wednesday
12. henry296 - Investigator, killed by Mafia Lieutenant Day 2
13. digamma
14. cartman
15. RealDeal
16. Barkeep49
17. Bek - Villager, lynched Day 1
18. pennywisesb
19. RPI-Fan
20. SnDvls - ???, killed Night 1

You feel a bit vindicated and shocked, since henry296 also bit the dust... it is, however, Night (2) once again...

NIGHT (2) HAS BEGUN! KINDLY SEND IN YOUR NIGHT ACTIONS BY 9AM EDT.

So any mafia that get lynched get to take someone with them? I don't understand the killing of Henry here.

Just one last comment and then I'll shut up. My role specifically allowed me to choose one person to die as well if I got lynched. I don't know about the others.

As to 'the killing of henry here,' I'll talk about that after the game ends :)

That answers my question.

Interesting...

Here is SackAttack's specific role (since he died via lynch anyway):

Seems a little powerful. :(

Nice try Sack, you actually had me doubting for alittle bit there. I'm off to church for the night so I won't be on again until later. That sucks we lose Henry, but I guess its nice to get a mafia in the process.

would have been nice if the rules to this game were actually listed in the rules...whats gonna happen tommorow, the person that gets lynched pulls out a grenade and blows up 3 more villagers?

The role was analogous to the "werewolf king" role we've seen in a couple of previous games. It's not something out of left field, I wouldn't say.

First one I've seen, which explains my surprise.

i understand that, but seeing as how this is the first game ive been in, the fact that the rules/roles seem to change every day is a little bit annoying to me. obviously the mafia lt roles was one of the "secret roles" mentioned in the original post, but it just feels to me that this game is slanted pretty hard to make it next to impossible for the villagers to win.

Sorry I switched subjects. By we I was referring to the villagers and my thoughts about the positive events that could come out of tongiht with Henry still alive. Of course now that he turned out to have died, the kind of messes up my carefully laid out percentages. So I'm going to say all things considered losing 1 mafia for the investigator is a minus for the village.

My guess is that one or more villagers also have secret roles. For instance there I would not be surprised at all if there was a doctor type, which is often a lesser form of a bodyguard.

can everyone at least agree im in the clear now? from lynching at least

No. You could be either the werewolf, because perhaps the investigator can't see wolves, or the turncoat, who the rules specifically mention will be seen as a regular villager. Honestly am I suspicous of you? No, you're pretty far down my list, but right now there's very little info out there so everyone, to me, remains fair game.

When a woman asks you if you're a god, Ray, you say yes!

hmmm... not a bad idea.

I don't mean to be rude, but you should expect this sort of thing given the number of things Neon_Chaos indicated up-front would not be revealed. If you don't like the game morphing under foot, then you should consider playing games that don't include secret roles.

Fixed it for you. :D

Actually, I think the X-Com game was as crazy as any I've been in, and that was GMed by SirFozzie. That one didn't have any public roles. :)

:D

That game was whack. And the Aliens had that WON, until Fouts turned traitor.

Note that I survived 3 days of near-lynching.

god damn fouts

While we're on a nostalgia kick, let's also remember that Swaggs pulled a humongously clutch "Duke" switch to rescue victory from the jaws of defeat for us humans. :D

I like the trade off today. Just unlucky for us that Sack was the most powerful bad guy, but it is better that we got him early instead of late when the numbers game really puts us in a bind.

dubb - Any reason for voting for Henry today?

You all heard the screams once again. Nobody dared go outside. You also heard gunshots. Morning soon comes, and as you walk out, you notice that two men are dead once more...

You find Ardent Enthusiast's body all tied up in rope, two bullet holes in his corpse, one on his chest, and another one right between the eyes. Ardent Enthusiast has died!

You also find cartman's corpse, half-eaten. His face almost indistinguishable. cartman has died!

You don't know what to expect... you do know that things are not going your way...

1. kingfc22
2. Blade6119
3. Vince - ???, killed Night 1
4. SackAttack - Mafia Lieutenant, lynched Day 2
5. MrBug708
6. dubb93
7. ardent enthusiast - ???, killed Night 2
8. raiders army
9. Lathum
10. saldana
11. Mr. Wednesday
12. henry296 - Investigator, killed by Mafia Lieutenant Day 2
13. digamma
14. cartman - ???, killed Night 2
15. RealDeal
16. Barkeep49
17. Bek - Villager, lynched Day 1
18. pennywisesb
19. RPI-Fan
20. SnDvls - ???, killed Night 1

IT IS NOW DAY(3), VOTES ARE DUE AT 9PM EDT! :)

Interesting choices of victims. Cartman was pretty quiet, and about the only thing poor ardent did was vote for Sack and MrBug (the latter only after Bug voted for him first, although ardent claimed it was for "no reason").

Looks like the bodyguard(s) was (were) unlucky tonight.

People are dropping like flies right now. Dunno what to think as I can't really do much as a villager and most of our information is now gone with Henry dying.

Just curious, but how can it be unlucky that Sack was the most powerful bad guy?

Ugh. How did this get so ugly so quickly? We have 13 people left. By my estimation, there are probably two wolves and possibly two mafia left. That means it's 9-4 villagers. We need to get it together. Since this looks bad, I'll out myself. I'm the seer. That's why I was pushing henry to admit he was the seer. If he did admit it, I would not have trusted him and come out then to get him. It all made sense once he said he was the investigator. I received two PMs from Neon_Chaos concerning my role. The first one said I was the Investigator, and the second one said it should have said I was the seer. I can detect the wolves but not the mafia. I missed the first night action because I thought we were going to start the game with a lynch instead. Oops. However, I did get lucky on night 2.

Vote Mr. Wednesday

Mr. Wednesday is a wolf. I checked out dubb last night, and he is definitely not a wolf. Probably should've checked out blade, but if I live through the night, I'll clear/damn him.

Oh, and Neon_Chaos did confirm that I could not detect mafia last night via PM, so I assume henry could not detect wolves.

Im just at a loss for why you would do that...to see if im a warewolf after im confirmed to be a villager by our investigator...isntead of scouting someone no one suspects? And dubb?...he was the only secure one in my mind, as no one would be stupid enough to vote with sack if they were bad...your facts just dont add up to me...im open to change if something better comes along, but it seems to me your trying to play numbers and hope we make a mistake and its too late to fix it later...and using me because of henry clearing me and dubb for voting against henry...seems wayy to sketch

Vote Raiders Army

I will say i find it interesting the mafia killed ardent after i voted him...they trying to tell me something?

Did you read my post? I assume that henry could not detect wolves since I cannot detect mafia. That is why I would see if you're a wolf. At this point, I think it would be nice to be able to check someone out.

Why did I check out dubb? He also voted for henry. Mr. Wednesday (a wolf) voted for Sackattack, so I figured if there was more than one wolf, they would try to spread their votes. Not many choices on who to pick from, so it was dubb. Plus, he seemed too suspicious of henry yesterday.

Do what you want, but obviously you didn't read my post thoroughly enough.

i read it just fine, i just dont understand when people like digamma are flying under the radar why you would waste a turn trying to double check me...and dubb was the last person i would have checked...if you are what you say then i just dont get your reasons...henry made a play early and got fluked into death while being a lieutenent mafia...i understand why he did what he did though

Your reasoning, frankly, just seems stupid to me..i dont get your reasoning, i dont get why you would scan wednesday first night and not even mention him today, why you wouldnt scan night zero neon makes sure you submit scans, he wont advance till all are in...you just have way to much highly suspicious info...sorry, not buying it for a second...

I was trying to see if Mr. Wednesday would screw up and perhaps reveal someone he's working with. He may be the only wolf. As far as your bolded part, I'm the reason why Neon was late. He advanced it without my PM.

Believe what you like. You're sounding like a wolf to me. If you kill me, go for Wednesday tomorrow and Blade the next day.

I'm not sure what to think of RA's developments. Mr. W has laid low so far, so it would kind of fit with the pattern of being the wolf (wolves)?

However, given Blade's highly suspicious actions, he needs to be looked at strongly. If we're going to look strongly at Mr. W here (which it seems pretty clear we should), it might make more sense to lynch Blade tonight to find out for sure if we hit him (seems pretty likely that Mr. W can be had the following night).

Then again, there is a lot to be said for taking out Mr. W tonight. I'm undecided, but leaning towards voting Mr. W.

You bastards! First time I've died without a lynch vote, I think.

I guess it comes down to what RPI says. Vote Mr. W and risk Blade, if you are in fact the Seer Raiders. I'm guessing you are the werewolf seer and Henry was the mafia seer in that case? Blade does make a good point in counter though. Neon is pretty good on waiting til the deadline before moving onto the next day, at least when I was mafia the first time. As a villager, it's kind of a long wait.

Why guess that I'm the werewolf seer? I said that I am. I yam what I yam.

Neon PMed me at 11:17 the first day asking me if I had a night action to turn in. I didn't get it until about noon since I was away from my computer. That's what happened. I don't see what the consternation is about whether to vote Blade or Mr. Wednesday. I have confirmed that Mr. Wednesday is a wolf. I don't know about Blade. I think everyone can assume he's not a member of the mafia. I can check him out tonight, and as far as I'm concerned, if he does check out, then he's safe for the rest of the game (barring a conversion of some sort...if that's possible in this game).

Sorry, when I say "I guess", it means something along the lines of "looks like" you are the seer if he turns out to be a wolf. :)

Ah, makes sense now.

I know Mr. Wednesday is squirming right now too. I know I was last game when Vince said I was a wolf. I just wonder what his play will be?

Henry turned out to be right and you are more or less coming out with information that puts you at risk as well.

Vote - Mr.W

Sorry my friend, looks like it could be the end of ya. Too bad it's not like the first mafia game. :(