Originally Posted by HomerSimpson98 (Post 3183336)

maybe we should start a thread for people that havent been charged with sexual shenanigans

Originally Posted by korme (Post 3183335)

Surprised it took this long

Originally Posted by korme (Post 3183335)

Surprised it took this long

Originally Posted by QuikSand (Post 3183440)

I semi-agree that the lack of hypocrisy is a benefit for him, but I don't think you can forecast little effect. There's always the element of "do I want to support/enrich this person?" in play... and as a one-man show (especially since he's gone so far into distributing his material himself, etc) that seems to land hard on him.

I think he's possibly the very best stand up comedian ever - or at least the last 5-10 years have put him into that conversation - and I'll likely hesitate to go and spend money on something from him. Does that make me willfully naive or hypocritical (if we all "saw this coming" pun maybe intended) for enjoying him all these years? I don't know.

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 3183453)

My wife told me last night that Charlie Sheen was accused by Corey Feldman of sexually assaulting Corey Haim. Does that count?

I think Barney the dinosaur is next.

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3183454)

did he try to explore Dora?

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 3183451)

Somewhere out there, Paul Reubens is feeling pretty good about himself.

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 3183453)

My wife told me last night that Charlie Sheen was accused by Corey Feldman of sexually assaulting Corey Haim. Does that count?

I think Barney the dinosaur is next.

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3183455)

puts a whole diff spin on the reason for the slight D-D-D-Dora stutter I guess.

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 3183465)

Is it just me, or are we not allowing people to have normal human conflicting thoughts on how to properly deal with this stuff?

Originally Posted by Louis C.K.

I want to address the stories told to The New York Times by five women named Abby, Rebecca, Dana, Julia who felt able to name themselves and one who did not.

These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn’t a question. It’s a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly.

I have been remorseful of my actions. And I’ve tried to learn from them. And run from them. Now I’m aware of the extent of the impact of my actions. I learned yesterday the extent to which I left these women who admired me feeling badly about themselves and cautious around other men who would never have put them in that position.

I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn’t want to hear it. I didn’t think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.

There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.

I wish I had reacted to their admiration of me by being a good example to them as a man and given them some guidance as a comedian, including because I admired their work.

The hardest regret to live with is what you’ve done to hurt someone else. And I can hardly wrap my head around the scope of hurt I brought on them. I’d be remiss to exclude the hurt that I’ve brought on people who I work with and have worked with who’s professional and personal lives have been impacted by all of this, including projects currently in production: the cast and crew of Better Things, Baskets, The Cops, One Mississippi, and I Love You Daddy. I deeply regret that this has brought negative attention to my manager Dave Becky who only tried to mediate a situation that I caused. I’ve brought anguish and hardship to the people at FX who have given me so much The Orchard who took a chance on my movie. and every other entity that has bet on me through the years.

I’ve brought pain to my family, my friends, my children and their mother.

I have spent my long and lucky career talking and saying anything I want. I will now step back and take a long time to listen.

Thank you for reading.

Originally Posted by QuikSand (Post 3183475)

I'm reluctant to say anything that sounds anything at all like "well, all is forgiven," but I'd say this: for the countless shitheads who puke out a non-apology in a situation like this, this is a lot closer to how you're supposed do it when the chips are down.

Originally Posted by QuikSand (Post 3183475)

I'm reluctant to say anything that sounds anything at all like "well, all is forgiven," but I'd say this: for the countless shitheads who puke out a non-apology in a situation like this, this is a lot closer to how you're supposed do it when the chips are down.

Originally Posted by QuikSand (Post 3183475)

I'm reluctant to say anything that sounds anything at all like "well, all is forgiven," but I'd say this: for the countless shitheads who puke out a non-apology in a situation like this, this is a lot closer to how you're supposed do it when the chips are down.

Originally Posted by Fidatelo (Post 3183433)

He's always just generally made me uncomfortable, and so has never been a comedian I really enjoyed, so this news doesn't hurt nearly in the way the Cosby revelations did.

Originally Posted by thesloppy (Post 3183479)

That was a decent apology.

I'm relatively bummed that the recent revolution of abuse reporting has revealed one of my closest friends to be kind of a creepy dude. Literally every time one of these stories comes up he immediately segues into a long explanation about why he's not trying to blame the victims, before coming up with some way to gaslight/question the victims (usually along the lines of "Why didn't they just leave?"). Once or twice I might be able to look past, since we're both old farts who love to play devil's advocate, but EVERY time, and with some conviction, is something of a red flag.

I've started to try to check him to the best of my ability (which admittedly isn't much), but it's easier said than done, when talking with a close personal friend, rather than a strawman, or some construct on the internet. Like Louis and a lot of these dudes, I think my friend's issues with women (and himself) are largely based in shame and there's a real challenge in trying to check someone's core behavior without also making them feel more shamed/judged, which might just serve to make the attitude/behavior even worse.

Anybody else dealing with similar challenges these days?