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The Jackal 03-10-2015 08:58 PM

Vote Count (as of post 498):

4 - Raven - HomerSimpson98 (343), Zinto (387), fontisian (432), timmae (497)
3 - fontisian - Raven (330), saldana (354), Chief Rum (401)
3 - Grover - path12 (271), cheekimonk (417), JAG (465)
3 - Suicane75 - britrock88 (331), Grover (344), EagleFan (481)
1 - EagleFan - Suicane75 (478)

EagleFan 03-10-2015 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinto (Post 3009177)
You are much more aggressive than I remember Font.


I remember an aggressive font being a good font.

Raven 03-10-2015 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3009169)
If we go raven and he's village is font next then? Need help here..


Looks like 50% or more chance I'm gone, and I'm a villager.
Good luck all!

JAG 03-10-2015 08:58 PM

Unvote Grover
Vote Raven


Let's reduce shenanigan possibilities.

Raven 03-10-2015 08:59 PM

I could switch to Grover to tie it up but I won't. I'm a villager.

cheekimonk 03-10-2015 08:59 PM

Just to break the tension, this game reminds me of a tweet from a friend: If someone says, "Hey, I'm only human," look at them sideways and say, "That sure does sound like something a robot would say..."

Suicane75 03-10-2015 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinto (Post 3009179)
Also, this is gross. I am waiting for Suicane to move his vote because it makes almost no sense at this point to be on EF.


Eh, we have a leader. I'm staying where I am.

The Jackal 03-10-2015 09:00 PM

Deadline

The Jackal 03-10-2015 09:00 PM

I lied

The Jackal 03-10-2015 09:01 PM

Deadline for reals

HomerSimpson98 03-10-2015 09:01 PM

Ugh I don't feel as confident now as I did earlier.

The Jackal 03-10-2015 09:01 PM

Vote Count:

5 - Raven - HomerSimpson98 (343), Zinto (387), fontisian (432), timmae (497), JAG (504)
3 - fontisian - Raven (330), saldana (354), Chief Rum (401)
3 - Suicane75 - britrock88 (331), Grover (344), EagleFan (481)
2 - Grover - path12 (271), cheekimonk (417)
1 - EagleFan - Suicane75 (478)

The Jackal 03-10-2015 09:04 PM

Another day, another execution, another begrudging acceptance of fate.

Raven was a common soldier.

Fear begins to settle heavily upon you now as the numbers dwindle. It is almost as if the dark magic can sense it and feeds off of it. There seems to be the occasional chill in the air, unnatural in high summer. Will you all wake up in the morning?

The Jackal 03-10-2015 09:30 PM

You awake the following morning to the feeling of the earth moving. At first your sleep-addled mind believes it to be an earthquake but as your senses focus you realize that it is the steady beat of thousands of drums. The Nadir army is nearly ready for you. As you make your way to the communal areas, you notice that another soldier has been slain.

timmae was a common soldier.


Day 3 begins - will an infiltrator be discovered today?

EagleFan 03-10-2015 09:31 PM

On the bright side, no roles lost yet...

EagleFan 03-10-2015 09:32 PM

vote cheekimonk

Not changing that vote today.

britrock88 03-10-2015 09:33 PM

If we have 4 wolves, were at 8:4, which gives us one more mislynch without allowing wolves to reach parity.

EagleFan 03-10-2015 09:35 PM

Day One:

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3008621)
Code:

Post        Time        Voter                Vote            Unvote
76        4:07        Narcizo              britrock88       
80        7:04        Zinto                GoldenEagle       
81        7:11        JAG                  saldana       
82        7:45        EagleFan            Zinto       
88        8:11        timmae              Grover       
96        9:57        Grover              Suicane75       
101        10:29        Chief Rum        Raven       
108        11:43        Raven                Suicane75       
112        11:57        cheekimonk        timmae       
123        12:25        Suicane75        Grover       
128        12:28        britrock88        JAG       
134        12:43        path12              britrock88       
152        14:18        britrock88        timmae              JAG
160        15:50        EagleFan                        Zinto
161        15:52        EagleFan        Raven       
163        15:57        JAG                  GoldenEagle        saldana
166        16:25        Narcizo              GoldenEagle        britrock88
174        16:55        Chief Rum        Suicane75        Raven
176        17:19        timmae              JAG                  Grover
177        17:23        Suicane75        GoldenEagle        Grover
180        18:06        HomerSimpson98        fontisian       
189        18:35        JAG                  fontisian        GoldenEagle
190        18:35        GoldenEagle        Suicane75       
192        18:42        Raven                fontisian        Suicane75
197        18:58        cheekimonk        britrock88        timmae
204        19:11        path12              GoldenEagle        britrock88
207        19:13        EagleFan        GoldenEagle        Grover
214        19:34        Grover              fontisian        Suicane75
216        20:02        JAG                    Suicane75        fontisian
223        20:25        GoldenEagle        fontisian        Suicane75
237        20:49        EagleFan        Raven                GoldenEagle
239        21:22        cheekimonk        Raven                britrock88
240        21:37        timmae              GoldenEagle        JAG
242        21:48        EagleFan        fontisian        Raven
244        21:54        fontisian        GoldenEagle        Raven



EagleFan 03-10-2015 09:38 PM

Day One

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3008606)
6 - GoldenEagle - Zinto (80), Narcizo (166), Suicane75 (177), path12 (204), timmae (240), fontisian (244)
5 - fontisian - HomerSimpson98 (180), Raven (192), Grover (214), GoldenEagle (223), EagleFan (242)
2 - Suicane75 - Chief Rum (174), JAG (216)
1 - timmae - britrock88 (152)
1 - Raven - cheekimonk (239)


EagleFan 03-10-2015 09:39 PM

Crud, Raven's vote should be in green on that day one final vote post.

fontisian 03-10-2015 09:43 PM

Lost of green on my lynch. That leaves Homer or Grover as possible scum, yeah?

EF: If my unaligned pairs are correct, cheek being scum would narrow a four man wolfteam down to four possible worlds:
cheekcheekcheekcheek
grovergroverhomersaldana
homersaldanasaldanasuicane
saldanazintosuicanezinto

Thoughts?

fontisian 03-10-2015 09:45 PM

Actually, I'm inclined to discount the first world, as it would mean the GE lynch consisted entirely of townies. So let's narrow that to:
cheekcheekcheek
groverhomersaldana
saldanasaldanasuicane
zintosuicanezinto

JAG 03-10-2015 09:47 PM

I noticed D1 that cheek switched to Raven without comment towards the end of the day.

EagleFan 03-10-2015 09:52 PM

With Raven being a villager I am inclined to give Grover a pass. I can't get a read on Homer or Zinto. Will have to go back over the course of events to see what happened.

saldana 03-10-2015 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3009219)
Actually, I'm inclined to discount the first world, as it would mean the GE lynch consisted entirely of townies. So let's narrow that to:
cheekcheekcheek
groverhomersaldana
saldanasaldanasuicane
zintosuicanezinto


care to fill us in on what your little grid is?...i have never seen this before and am interested to see what level of associations this is supposed to be

Suicane75 03-10-2015 09:55 PM

Vote: EagleFan

fontisian 03-10-2015 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana (Post 3009225)
care to fill us in on what your little grid is?...i have never seen this before and am interested to see what level of associations this is supposed to be

Turns out I can post the whole thing, so let's do that:

britrock88cheekimonkChief Rum EagleFanGroverHomerSimpson98JAGpath12saldanaSuicane75Zinto
britrock88x
-

-





cheekimonk-x--

--


Chief Rum
-x--


-

EagleFan
--x-

-


Grover-
--x
-

-
HomerSimpson98




x-


-
JAG
-

--x


-
path12
-




x
-
saldana

-




x

Suicane75



-

-
x
Zinto




--


x
Each red space indicates a knowing unalignment (meaning the two did not know they were on the same team at the time I was analyzing.) This isn't a full chart, as I would add additional minuses to indicated stronger correlations and green spaces to indicate likely alignments, but since this is such a fast game, I haven't gotten around to it yet.

The current red spaces are based on fairly simplistic vote analysis, things like people voting right next to each other or voting for each other in a way that doesn't look like bussing. Keep in mind that the more experienced the player, the less likely this kind of thing is to work.

EagleFan 03-10-2015 10:06 PM

Question anyone voting for me today, trying to get the village to do their job for them.

cheekimonk 03-10-2015 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG (Post 3009220)
I noticed D1 that cheek switched to Raven without comment towards the end of the day.


I actually explained that...on my very first day of ever playing WW I didn't want to be a deciding vote between the 2 top targets.

If I'm a wolf, then the wolves have been lucky as hell as I would be more a liability (I could be a liability for us as well, I guess, but I digress). I've tried to pick up signs of coordinated votes. I'm can't say I'm good at it yet, but there seem to be plenty of other "wolfy" people around than me.

fontisian 03-10-2015 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3009234)
Question anyone voting for me today, trying to get the village to do their job for them.

EF, is this what I think it is?

EagleFan 03-10-2015 10:14 PM

I think the wolves made a mistake going after someone on my list to try to disprove me. I'll let that sit for a while, will explain later but you'll probably figure it out.

EagleFan 03-10-2015 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3009237)
EF, is this what I think it is?


If it was, I couldn't say that it was... whatever you think it could be...

EagleFan 03-10-2015 10:23 PM

Anyone else seeing this page look like a spreadsheet now? Odd, ever since font posted that chart I see boarder lines around things on this page.

EagleFan 03-10-2015 10:24 PM

If I go to a different page in this thread, don't see it.

Sorry, just found that odd.

fontisian 03-10-2015 10:27 PM

Huh. I corrupted everything.

Suicane75 03-10-2015 10:40 PM

Yeah, I thought it was my internet being funky and not loading certain things, but I see it too.

britrock88 03-10-2015 11:15 PM

JAG surviving to D3 makes me wonder...

(Sorry, JAG.)

path12 03-10-2015 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3009159)
Hey, here's a fun idea. What if we stopped fucking around and lynched Raven already?


Notable statement.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontisian (Post 3009178)
Zinto: It's been a while, and I've been intensively playing mafia the entire time.


Especially in light of this one.

Grover 03-11-2015 07:11 AM

vote cheekimonk

Yes, I know he's new, but claiming that he would be a liability for the wolves is an interesting take. Could be they've planned it for him to 'play dumb' to throw us of the scent?

I'm not buying it. Something is fishy.

Grover 03-11-2015 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekimonk (Post 3009235)
I actually explained that...on my very first day of ever playing WW I didn't want to be a deciding vote between the 2 top targets.

If I'm a wolf, then the wolves have been lucky as hell as I would be more a liability (I could be a liability for us as well, I guess, but I digress). I've tried to pick up signs of coordinated votes. I'm can't say I'm good at it yet, but there seem to be plenty of other "wolfy" people around than me.


Furthering my point. Why would one even claim that they would be a liability to the wolves? Why even mention the possibility you are aligned with them? What is he considering to be "wolfy", when he himself is acting what one could consider wolfy?

I look forward to hearing cheek's defense here, if he has a viable one.

We cannot afford another day with lynching a villager.

JAG 03-11-2015 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekimonk (Post 3009235)
I actually explained that...on my very first day of ever playing WW I didn't want to be a deciding vote between the 2 top targets.

If I'm a wolf, then the wolves have been lucky as hell as I would be more a liability (I could be a liability for us as well, I guess, but I digress). I've tried to pick up signs of coordinated votes. I'm can't say I'm good at it yet, but there seem to be plenty of other "wolfy" people around than me.


I missed that explanation. That's not usually a good thing though, ducking a deciding vote, just so you know. It makes it look like you want to hide your vote rather than taking a stand.

JAG 03-11-2015 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 3009251)
JAG surviving to D3 makes me wonder...

(Sorry, JAG.)


Eh, it's what it is. I assume either I've been barking up the wrong tree, or I've been correct on Zinto and he doesn't want the scrutiny that killing me would bring. Or they might want me alive so they can push me as a candidate later in the game, who knows?

JAG 03-11-2015 07:23 AM

If anyone can put together a D2 vote table, it would be appreciated.

cheekimonk 03-11-2015 07:34 AM

Grover, I made a comment in response to JAG's observation that I switched to Raven late on D1 w/out explanation (I did, indeed, explain it in a separate post). I guess the rest of the post was overreaction gauging by your comments. I got a vote yesterday, but JAG's post was the first time anyone has cast real suspicion on me. We're down 4 villagers (which is as bad as it could get after D2...right?) so D3 is a critical vote for us. I don't really know how to argue I'm a villager as everyone says that. I'd just hate to be the nail in our coffin in my first game because I was just dumb enough to draw attention away from those with seemingly suspicious strategies (to me, at least).

cheekimonk 03-11-2015 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG (Post 3009279)
I missed that explanation. That's not usually a good thing though, ducking a deciding vote, just so you know. It makes it look like you want to hide your vote rather than taking a stand.


Thanks. I picked up on that D2 with the discussion of "hidden/wasted" votes.

JAG 03-11-2015 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekimonk (Post 3009283)
Grover, I made a comment in response to JAG's observation that I switched to Raven late on D1 w/out explanation (I did, indeed, explain it in a separate post). I guess the rest of the post was overreaction gauging by your comments. I got a vote yesterday, but JAG's post was the first time anyone has cast real suspicion on me. We're down 4 villagers (which is as bad as it could get after D2...right?) so D3 is a critical vote for us. I don't really know how to argue I'm a villager as everyone says that. I'd just hate to be the nail in our coffin in my first game because I was just dumb enough to draw attention away from those with seemingly suspicious strategies (to me, at least).


Assuming you're not a wolf, there's no reason to call yourself dumb because you're getting suspicion. Pretty much everyone does something that someone else thinks is suspicious. Just try and take a look at posts and bring up points that's haven't yet been made that you think might lead us to a wolf. The voting is a little tougher as we haven't caught a wolf yet, but there still is probably some information to be gleaned from it.

JAG 03-11-2015 08:42 AM

I don't have tons of time, but I'm going to try and review D2 posting today.

Grover 03-11-2015 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicane75 (Post 3009226)
Vote: EagleFan


Why?

HomerSimpson98 03-11-2015 09:16 AM

Very discouraging and frustrating. I'm obviously doing a shitty job of identifying the bad guys as timmae was also someone who I thought may be wolf. Wrong again.

Got some weird voter action around deadline and I'm trying to wrap my tiny brain around it. Font and Zinto are 2-for-2 in lynching good guys. And why did Sui stay on EF with a wasted vote

The Jackal 03-11-2015 09:31 AM

Vote Count:

2 - cheekimonk - EagleFan (516), Grover (539)
1 - EagleFan - Suicane75 (526)


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