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digamma 07-13-2017 08:50 PM

I've dealt with Kasowitz some previously and I'll just say that his reported behavior today is not really surprising.

albionmoonlight 07-14-2017 10:49 AM

Trump is hiring a lawyer named Ty Cobb who looks like this to manage the Russia allegations:

https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/...Y/v0/-1x-1.jpg

And apparently, Ty Cobb is really good at crisis management.

I think that the matrix broke about 2 years ago and our robot overlords are just letting it run to see what happens.

EDIT: changed embedded pic to link b/c of size.

Easy Mac 07-14-2017 11:00 AM

The Trump Jr non-collusion meeting was conducted in Russian. So not only are the Russian people the most forgettable people on the planet, their language is so boring that you instantly forget that you had someone translate it for you.

PilotMan 07-14-2017 11:39 AM

And apparently an (ex) Soviet spy, ie. friend of Putin has confirmed he was also at this nothingburger of a meeting.

Easy Mac 07-14-2017 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3166584)
And apparently an (ex) Soviet spy, ie. friend of Putin has confirmed he was also at this nothingburger of a meeting.


Now reports are another dude was in there as well. These Russians spies are really good at their job.

Chief Rum 07-14-2017 12:35 PM

Oh yea. I forgot. I was there too. Trump Jr stole my wine spritzer before I could finish it.

Shkspr 07-14-2017 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3166577)
Trump is hiring a lawyer named Ty Cobb who looks like this to manage the Russia allegations:



That's Ty "Rollie Fingers" Cobb to you.

JPhillips 07-14-2017 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac (Post 3166590)
Now reports are another dude was in there as well. These Russians spies are really good at their job.


And apparently documents were given to Trump Jr by the lawyer.

cartman 07-14-2017 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3166600)
And apparently documents were given to Trump Jr by the lawyer.


The adoption paperwork, obviously.

JPhillips 07-14-2017 02:12 PM

I still can't believe that we haven't heard whether the adoption was successful.

Easy Mac 07-14-2017 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3166602)
I still can't believe that we haven't heard whether the adoption was successful.


#pizzagatebutforrealthistimeandnotpizzabutrussiankidsthinkaboutit

JPhillips 07-14-2017 02:33 PM

#andtheyareallnamedSethRich

JPhillips 07-14-2017 02:41 PM

And now we're up to eight people at the meeting.

Thomkal 07-14-2017 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3166611)
And now we're up to eight people at the meeting.


It might be better at this point to ask: which Russian spy/Trump election team member wasn't at this meeting.

Ben E Lou 07-14-2017 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3166611)
And now we're up to eight people at the meeting.

So maybe he released the emails in hopes that it would end with there?

Easy Mac 07-14-2017 03:58 PM

If I'm going to be fair to Trump, Jr., I have no idea who I talked to on June 9th, 2016. If I had to guess, it would be my wife, dog and daughter, but there could have been a Russian there as well.

JPhillips 07-14-2017 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3166613)
So maybe he released the emails in hopes that it would end with there?


He's a dumb guy that thinks he can outsmart everyone.

panerd 07-16-2017 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3166621)
He's a dumb guy that thinks he can outsmart everyone.


To be fair this is the entire Trump organization's m.o. including pre-presidency and also most of Washington DC as far back I have been following. Honestly nobody really cared before (at least not at this level) and while the press actually seems to be doing their job with this administration and people seemed outraged I still don't see any real evidence is it having any effect.

JPhillips 07-16-2017 10:04 AM


Thomkal 07-16-2017 02:12 PM

So Trump lawyer says the Trump Jr meeting with the Russians was allowed by the Secret Service, so it must have been ok.

Of course those annoying facts spring up again:

1-Secret Service provides physical protection to whomever it was assigned to-they don't vet people to see if they are ok to come into contact with them.

2-The only person who had Secret Service protection at this point was Trump himself. So they would have not been at this meeting.

Trump lawyer suggests Secret Service vetted Don Jr.'s meeting | Reuters

RainMaker 07-16-2017 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3166691)
So Trump lawyer says the Trump Jr meeting with the Russians was allowed by the Secret Service, so it must have been ok.

Of course those annoying facts spring up again:

1-Secret Service provides physical protection to whomever it was assigned to-they don't vet people to see if they are ok to come into contact with them.

2-The only person who had Secret Service protection at this point was Trump himself. So they would have not been at this meeting.

Trump lawyer suggests Secret Service vetted Don Jr.'s meeting | Reuters


If the Secret Service was there, it'd more or less prove Trump knew about the meeting.

cartman 07-16-2017 04:48 PM

Secret Service has released a statement that DJTjr was not under Secret Service protection at the time of the meeting, and wouldn't have screened anyone that attended the meeting.

U.S. Secret Service rejects suggestion it vetted Trump son's meeting | Reuters

RainMaker 07-16-2017 05:52 PM

Strange how these people lie incessantly about meetings that are supposedly no big deal.

Brian Swartz 07-16-2017 06:27 PM

Perversely, I don't think it's an indication that they have something to hide when they lie about something -- because they lie about almost everything. I wouldn't believe them without independent corroboration if they told me they just ate corn flakes 5 minutes ago.

Thomkal 07-16-2017 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3166710)
Strange how these people lie incessantly about meetings that are supposedly no big deal.


You would think they would be pretty good now about telling believable/not easily proved wrong lies. I guess they need to be in politics longer.

stevew 07-16-2017 07:42 PM

Even John McCain's blood clots are Maverick in nature.

PilotMan 07-16-2017 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3166716)
You would think they would be pretty good now about telling believable/not easily proved wrong lies. I guess they need to be in politics longer.


Classic Emperor's New Clothes.

Thomkal 07-18-2017 09:34 AM

Yet another win for the Trump Presidency:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/politi...art/index.html

So now it looks like the Senate is going to try to repeal the whole thing, you know rather than try to work with the Democrats on parts they can agree on. Because you know that would make the Democrats look good and all.

jeff061 07-18-2017 09:44 AM

Whatever, he's passed more bills than any president every.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/17/u...aws-bills.html

Thomkal 07-18-2017 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061 (Post 3166873)
Whatever, he's passed more bills than any president every.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/17/u...aws-bills.html


passed more gas and hot air is what he meant :)

JPhillips 07-18-2017 10:57 AM

How little do people fear Trump?

The GOP senator from WV helped kill the senate healthcare bill and looks to be leading the mob to kill the repeal bill.

The Dem senator up for reelection in 2018 has never wavered on his no vote for the senate bill.

This in a state Trump won by 42 points!

larrymcg421 07-18-2017 11:10 AM

And yet the brogressives are ready to send Manchin packing because "we need a true liberal" in West Virginia.

Thomkal 07-18-2017 01:20 PM

And just repeal might be dead in the water too:

The Latest: Governors urge Senate to abandon repeal effort - ABC News

ISiddiqui 07-18-2017 01:21 PM

It already is as Collins, Moore, and Murkowski have said they aren't going to vote for just repeal, leading to a lack of 50 votes.

Thomkal 07-18-2017 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 3166890)
It already is as Collins, Moore, and Murkowski have said they aren't going to vote for just repeal, leading to a lack of 50 votes.


yeah it was further down in the article, but that's what I was talking about here.

Thomkal 07-19-2017 07:18 PM

Looks like it was more than a blood clot for John McCain:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...lot/493807001/

NobodyHere 07-19-2017 07:22 PM

I've never been a particular fan of McCain's...but F*** Cancer

Kodos 07-19-2017 07:33 PM

That sucks. The guy is a legitimate hero.

Edward64 07-20-2017 05:16 AM

Per the Trump interview, it had not registered to me that Mueller may be looking at Trump finances. I guess its supposed to be specifically about Russia but how would he know without looking at everything?

It'll be interesting (and entertaining). I think Mueller will be much more in depth than IRS audits.

Edward64 07-20-2017 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 3167022)
That sucks. The guy is a legitimate hero.


Agree. I'm not 100% with him on policies but there is no doubt he is a patriot and hero.

JPhillips 07-20-2017 08:34 AM

Good luck to McCain and family. If, as reported, it's the same cancer that took Ted Kennedy, it will be a tough fight.

Shkspr 07-20-2017 08:38 AM

I saw this nugget in the NYT interview and had a thought:

Quote:

So pre-existing conditions are a tough deal. Because you are basically saying from the moment the insurance, you’re 21 years old, you start working and you’re paying $12 a year for insurance, and by the time you’re 70, you get a nice plan.

$12 a year for insurance? Is Trump confusing health insurance and life insurance?

JPhillips 07-20-2017 08:39 AM

Every Trump interview is insane.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/u...ranscript.html

Thomkal 07-20-2017 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3167040)
Per the Trump interview, it had not registered to me that Mueller may be looking at Trump finances. I guess its supposed to be specifically about Russia but how would he know without looking at everything?

It'll be interesting (and entertaining). I think Mueller will be much more in depth than IRS audits.


I wonder if he will get his tax returns then? :)

jeff061 07-20-2017 09:35 AM

on Macron

Quote:

HABERMAN: He was very deferential to you. Very.

TRUMP: He’s a great guy. Smart. Strong. Loves holding my hand.

HABERMAN: I’ve noticed.

TRUMP: People don’t realize he loves holding my tiny hand. And that’s good, as far as that goes.

_________

TRUMP: I mean, really. He’s a very good person. And a tough guy, but look, he has to be. I think he is going to be a terrific president of France. But he does love holding my hand.

Logan 07-20-2017 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shkspr (Post 3167056)
I saw this nugget in the NYT interview and had a thought:



$12 a year for insurance? Is Trump confusing health insurance and life insurance?


While I wouldn't put that past him, don't look past the other possibility that a rich person has zero idea what a typical person pays for anything.

Logan 07-20-2017 09:49 AM

Nothing to see here!

Quote:

The Treasury Department says it is slapping Exxon Mobil Corp. with a $2 million fine for violating Russia sanctions while Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was the oil company's CEO.

Access Denied

mckerney 07-20-2017 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shkspr (Post 3167056)
I saw this nugget in the NYT interview and had a thought:



$12 a year for insurance? Is Trump confusing health insurance and life insurance?


You mean you don't have $1 monthly premiums?

AlexB 07-20-2017 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3167057)


If you had just pasted the text without the NYT reference, I couldn't have told you if it was real or from The Onion. It's just deluded at times:
Quote:

TRUMP: I have had the best reviews on foreign land. So I go to Poland and make a speech. Enemies of mine in the media, enemies of mine are saying it was the greatest speech ever made on foreign soil by a president. I’m saying, man, they cover [garbled]. You saw the reviews I got on that speech. Poland was beautiful and wonderful, and the reception was incredible.

And I know I've mentioned it before, but every time I read a Trump transcript I can't help but have it sound like Dustin Hoffman in Rainman :D

Ben E Lou 07-20-2017 02:07 PM




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