hoopsguy - 2 - (DT 74, jeff061 89, EF 94)
Danny - 1 - (Lathum 78)
J23 - 1 - (Autumn 81)
Autumn - 3 - (PF 82, CR 95, ntn 100)
jeff061 - 1 - (Thomkal 85)
EF - 2 - (hoops 91, saldana 97)

As of 101:

hoopsguy 3 - DaddyTorgo (74), jeff061 (89), EagleFan (94)
Autumn 3 - PackerFanatic (82), Chief Rum (95), ntndeacon (100)
EagleFan 2 - hoopsguy (91, saldana (97)
Danny 1 - Lathum (78)
J23 1 - Autumn (81)
jeff061 1 - Thomkal (85)

Sorry, didn't feel right copying the other post. :)

well then...

Unvote Danny
Vote Eaglefan

Home from work, catching up

A lot of votes, but very little talk. I guess that's to be expected day 1 with little to go on.

Out of the three candidates, I will not be voting Hoops. While he very well could be a wolf, the %'s are that he's a villager and with little to go on, I don't feel like potentially doing the wolves job for them.

Looks like three no votes so far. Darth, J23 and I.

Back from work. Busy day.

I dunno hoops - figured I'd throw a D1 vote on you based on gut I guess...but the %'s are that you're a useful villager, so maybe that's not the best play ever. I also think you've been getting lynched early lately and that's unfortunate.

But it did get people talking and putting up other candidates...

UNVOTE HOOPSGUY

Has J23 even checked in yet?

Vote Autumn

he had a good run last game

Looks like a definite run off between EF and Autumn. Probably too late to get a third candidate involved (as I said, Im not voting Hoops). Out of the two choices, I feel more comfortable lynching EagleFan at this point.

So for now

Vote EagleFan

I am willing to possibly introduce a different third candidate other than Hoops.

Darth, did you get my FB message about Sunday?

Since it became Hoops and Danny tied with two each in the lead there's been two votes for me and two votes for EagleFan. That's enough on day one to make me switch to one of them I think.

dola

oops ignore that for now, I missed a whole page since I last refreshsed.

I find this sequense interesting. DT unvotes Hoops to drop him down to 2 votes, then 10 minutes later Danny says it is a definite run off between EF and Autumn, even though Hoops is only one back. I realize Danny said he won't vote Hoops, but interesting that he is trying to pass it off like Hoops isn't a candidate.

Well, I guess all I had to do was change my numbers - 4 votes for EF, 3 for me since it became 2-2 Hoops, Danny.

While I can understand not wanting a runoff between two of our best villagers day one, you also have to wonder if there isn't more behind this change of village heart.

Unlike Danny I don't think it's too late for another candidate, we still have two hours to go. So I'm switching to him just out of the off chance that people were moving from him for a reason.

UNVOTE J23
VOTE DANNY

This may just be poor reading on my or NTN's part, but I believe we were 2-2-2-2-1-1 at this point with me, Danny, Hoops and EF all having two votes. So either NTN forgot about Danny or ...

Ah, I read Jackal's previous post about being back at 6 and I thought that was the deadline. With two hours, we do still have time for another candidate. Though I would prefer that candidate was not me :p

I was actually considering dropping a vote on J23 and putting him as the third candidate.

Well, you can't have everything ... ;-)

Lot of vote changing on day 1... this normal play these days?

Well I don't want to keep my vote on Jeff after finding out he hasn't played in a couple years, that would be pretty rude to vote him off on day 1. :) So in the interest of making this more interesting:

UNVOTE JEFF061
VOTE DANNY

Nothing personal Danny just want to see what kind of action we get late in the day here with three potential candidates.

Somewhat jeff-usually we make sure there's not a runaway vote on day 1-keep it close between two or three people so we can use that later on when we know more about the people being voted on.

As of 123:

hoopsguy 2 - jeff061 (89), EagleFan (94)
Autumn 4 - PackerFanatic (82), Chief Rum (95), ntndeacon (100), Darth Vilus (111)
EagleFan 4 - hoopsguy (91), saldana (97), Lathum (104), Danny (112)
Danny 2 - Autumn (117), Thomkal (123)
J23 1 - Autumn (81)

As of 126:

Autumn 4 - PackerFanatic (82), Chief Rum (95), ntndeacon (100), Darth Vilus (111)
EagleFan 4 - hoopsguy (91), saldana (97), Lathum (104), Danny (112)
Danny 3 - Autumn (117), Thomkal (123), EagleFan (126)
hoopsguy 1 - jeff061 (89)
J23 1 - Autumn (81)

Day 1 is pretty much a crapshoot to start...but it can be pretty useful in the long run. Hopefully J23 checks in and we can tighten up a few of those straggler votes.

EF, you've got me on J23 still as well as Danny.

EF, your voting history suggests you really want either Hoopsguy or Danny to bite it, just so you know.

Now for some thoughts, in case I am done tonight.

I know that I am not a wolf. So therefore this is what I have deduced so far (speculation only).

hoops leans towards good or cultist in my eyes. I can't see a wolf making a vote on me like that.

I am seeing some odd Lathum/Danny connection. He uses the pregame comment as justification (references it) but then seems to jump off when Danny got other action and jumped on the person that started that action.

On the bright side there has been movement today which may help find us a wolf.

At least lynching me may help you learn something and won't kill off a role. I'm okay with sacrificing myself for the team if need be. (not an endorsement for getting lynched though ;) ) Obviously my first choice would be that we lynch a wolf.

Fixed

Can you explain what about Hoops' vote makes you feel good about him?

Not really. I voted hoops out of perceived self defense. Reading quickly and seeing back to back posts with a vote for me (before reading and seeing that they were both hoops' posts). At that point I waited it out a bit to see what else would happen. Danny/Lathum intrigues me at this point.

I have no feel for you one way or the other yet but finding out about Danny may tell me a little more about a few others.


With that said, I always think that I see more on day one than I actually do.

To the best of my memory it has been rare for wolves to be the first to "stir the pot" in the day one voting lately. A wolf would know that I am good and that I tend to be a lightning rod so why bother even trying to stand out; instead wait for someone else to make the case against me and then join in.

Looks like the Flyers are starting their post all-star game slump...

Hopefully it only lasts 2 periods...

:(

Autumn - 4 - (PF 82, CR 95, ntn 100, DV 111)
EF - 4- (hoops 92, saldana 97, Lathum 104, Danny 112)
Danny - 3 - (Autumn 117, Thomkal 123, EF 126)
hoopsguy - 1 - (jeff 89)

not yet voted: J23, DT

This purple font is difficult to read with my Sideline Green skin.

Oh well, I suppose I can tough it out.

Sorry hoops, I really picked it at random with no attachment.

Honestly, none of the three leading candidates feels uber-wolfy to me at the moment. I'm glad EF is now discussing his rationale rather than just posting votes ... that kind of thing tends to happen when naturally talkative players pick up some votes.

I'm willing to move the vote, but I need some kind of a reason to do it and that can be hard to come by on Day 1.

Hopefully back for the deadline push after I've got my daughter in bed.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Not RED!!!!!!!!!!!

:)

Red is fine.

I like the red - but I don't care either way :)

I have no justification for my vote, although it is the one that CR jumped on to start the run on Autumn, so that could be something to keep an eye on.

We should all vote for font colors as well.

Sweet - so it's up to me to pick between autumn and EF?

Cool.

Out of curiosity, is it possible to get an uber-wolfy vibe this early either way? Obviously we want to go after wolves, but we don't know anyone from anyone else at this point in the game.

Flipped a virtual Silver Siliqua from Valentinian's reign as Roman Emperor.

VOTE AUTUMN

Coin flips, that's the way to go.

On Day 1, with neither of you having done anything particularly notable...it's as good as any other.

Well I think it's pretty clear we have two villagers on the block. Nobody's scrambling to move to Danny or anybody else. I can't really do anything about the vote, EF and I are both elsewhere so we cancel out. I'd urge people to try a third candidate, but only someone who's around.

Sorry Autumn, self preservation in case there is any funny business.

Good idea, I was surprised you weren't doing that. I'm not going to risk the tie anyway. Better to lose a vanilla villager than risk whatever would have happened.

You guys suck. Also, Jackal sucks for not giving me a sweet role.

Just kidding, somebody had to go and I guess it's my turn, I've had some good runs of late. Good luck Watchmen!

Blame random.org :)

So much for the best laid plans .... high winds = nervous kid falling asleep = one hoopsguy late for deadline.

I'm surprised there was no conversation about the tie and what the unknown mechanism might be.

coulda been worse, so for a day one i'm ok with this outcome

*haunts Darth Vilus*

I voted you because at the time I was the only vote on Danny and the general consensus was to narrow it down to 3 players.

I see that Autumn was the day one lottery "winner" but he made a valid point. so I might as well address it. I started by using the list Jackal made on that page (2) EF voted for then unvoted for Danny. So iwas under the assumption that Danny had only 1 vote when I made my comment and vote.

a disembodied spirit is nothing compared to that of the Dark Lord of the Sith

Sorry I missed out on this one. I just noticed the PM. I need to put it on popup. Have fun guys!!

Thank you :D.

Finally checking in. Huge apologies for not being around yesterday. I'm getting caught up atm.

I suppose if we had to lose a roled villager, that is the one we want to go (sorry Thomkal!)

Yeah. I haven't played a game with a fee seer(have their been others?). I'd imagine it's hugely disruptive.

^
Fake Seer. Still injecting coffee this morning.

i agree, if we had to lose someone, the fake seer is always a good one to go...i have always found them to be more confusing than anything.

Running late this morning, not a bad first day though.

yeah, imo a good outcome

Grrrr I guess my strategy didn't work out so well. :( But thankfully I was the fake seer so the damage was not too much. So :Pbbt! to the wolves!

Good luck all.

Re: Thomkal, what's been said, agreed. Hate to lose a villager, but at least he is the unwittingly least helpful.

I am disappointed Autumn was a villager, as I introduced him to the mix. I would understand getting flack for that. I had no real suspicion of Autumn over anyone else, and his choice by me was more a victim of circumstance, where I felt a three way race in the lone run would provide us with more information about yesterday's vote. It would have been nice for Autumn to have been a wolf, but I knew the odds were against it.

Our decision today would appear to be to focus on some of the other top targets from yesterday's vote (Danny, Eaglefan, hoopsguy) or to go in a whole new direction.

If we go with the former, I would lean toward Danny and Eaglefan. hoopsguy isn't giving me too much of a wolf vibe.

But I don't know that Danny or EF are any more wolves than the others.

chief, not trying to point a finger at all, but when does hoops actually give off a wolf vibe.

All I noticed from hoops was a hard deflection followed by relative silence when he got a second vote cast on him. Successfully taking himself out of the running and any discussion.

But wanting to survive a crapshoot day 1 vote is not limited to wolves.

Heh... I find my reads on him are mixed. You're right, though, that I rarely feel that "HE"S A WOLF" feeling on him. He does well deflecting that.

From looking at the votes yesterday, it didn't seem that there was a big push to lynch Autumn over the other vote-getters. That makes me think that maybe we were barking up the wrong tree.

I also tried to look at Thomkal's posts to see if there was any reason he was targetted but I didn't really see any hidden messages (though I have been pretty oblivious to these things in the past). I'm guessing that it was just a random hit looking for the seer (and luckily finding the fake one instead of the real one).

Lathums been really quiet

WTF guys, pretty quiet

Yeah, this is not solving my work boredom. Thanksfully working from home today. I'm feeling to green to go all half cocked and I don't have any insight on the personality of players.

OK, so here is the vote from yeasterday. Interesting that we know both Danny voters were villagers.

What that makes me wonder is would presumably 3 wolves split their votes between 2 candidates, one a known villager, or did they spread out more. If they did that makes Jeff a good candidate for a vote.

I think EF is also a good candidate, may give up some insight to the people who voted for him.

Jeff has been away a while, so for now

Vote EF

Little misleading to look at the final. At the time when I voted there were, I believe 6 people with a single. Didn't want a 7th so put it on Hoops for no particular reason. Everyone switched around afterwards.

I was at the deadline prepared to switch to make sure there was no tie, but otherwise I didn't want to jump around. Which used to be frowned upon later on :D. However it's not lost on me that I stick out a little because I didn't switch like everyone else.

Something about CR is rubbing me wrong, so I am going to run with it, see what pans out.

VOTE CHIEF RUM

Im running a little late and have to head out to work right now. Sorry but I won't be back before deadline, my job sucks.

Vote ntndeacon

I think there's a wolf somewhere in the Autumn voters, just not sure who. Until i have time to go back and look through the posts I'm going with ntn

vote saldana

Though I am still leaning towards Danny/Lathum but want to stir things up a little today with adding a new name to the mix. I would assume that there is at least one wolf on me.

Well, at least I can argue against that, lol.

I know EF raised some questions with his vote switches, but it's just too bold. He's definitely a question mark, but right now, I find it hard to believe he's a wolf and chooses to do his vote switches. It would be a bold play for a wolf to draw that much attention to himself. He could very well be Ozymandias, the cunning (and maybe the brutal, too), but I need more evidence right now to believe that's the game he's playing.

I think it's an obvious truth that there must be wolves in the Autumn voters, and less obvious, but likely at least one in the EF voters, too. Both DV and EF have merit to what they're saying with their votes.

But just like I'm not ready to vote EF, I'm certainly not ready to follow his lead on a vote, so I am not going with saldana.

DV's choice struck me, because it reminded me of a wolf vibe I got yesterday, when I read ntn's response to my Autumn vote (post #100).



His post reminded me of two things. One, that it's the kind of vote a wolf might make, latching onto another's theory to sorta "hide" himself, follow the train as it were. And two, it reminded me of myself when I am a villager who is busy IRL and hasn't been able to read every post beyond skimming.

So ntn could be a wolf or a villager, lol. Yeah, that helps.

In any case, the first possibility is enough to get my vote for now.

VOTE NTNDEACON

So we have

NTNDeacon - 2
Chief - 1
EagleFan - 1
Saldana 1

I agree with Chief on Eagle and want to start actually creating some candidates. Don't want to pile on or spread everyone out...again. I'm looking at Chief and Saldana. Chief has posting some strategy, which at the very least can be looked back at later on.

For now:
VOTE SALDANA

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So we have

NTNDeacon - 2
Chief - 1
EagleFan - 1
Saldana 1

I agree with Chief on Eagle and want to start actually creating some candidates. Don't want to pile on or spread everyone out...again. I'm looking at Chief and Saldana. Chief has posting some strategy, which at the very least can be looked back at later on.

For now:
VOTE SALDANA

Well, I had hoped to be able to participate a lot more today but my kid's daycare called me at 6AM to say they were closed. So I've been locked in with kid duty and that is not ideal for WW play.