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QuikSand 08-01-2003 02:42 PM

OT - Number game/puzzle for Fridayidle minds
 
We've done stuff like this before - since so many people seem to be clock-watching, let's try another round. And we'll make this a little more complicated.

Your goal: use the assigned set of numbers, along with any combination of arithmetic operations, to get to a total as close as possible to the target number(s).

For each set, you must use all these numbers:

6, 7, 19, 21, and 57

You may use these functions:

+, -, x, / = obvious
parentheses or brackets as needed

You may not just press numbers together into one larger numeral (e.g. 6 and 7 into 67)

You may not use exponents (too easy to compress something to zero that way)

You may not use factorials


Let's see... for the puzzle, let's set the target number at 50 to start with. If anyone hits that on the nose, then we'll let that person set a new target number, and we'll go from there. Or, if we agree that we can't hit a number on the button - we'll go with the closest we could find, and that person sets the next target.

50 it is.


(edit - disallow exponents, and factorials)

QuikSand 08-01-2003 02:45 PM

Hmmm...

57 - (21/6) - (19/7) = ~50.79

We can probably do better...

Franklinnoble 08-01-2003 02:45 PM

Are you a math teacher or something?

QuikSand 08-01-2003 02:47 PM

Something.

QuikSand 08-01-2003 02:47 PM

...or didn't I understand the question properly?

Celeval 08-01-2003 02:47 PM

Just to set a target:

(57+21+19) - (7*6) = 55


Nevermind, forgot QuickSand was MathGod. :)

QuikSand 08-01-2003 02:50 PM

This gets us pretty darned close... but also exposes a potential weakness in the game.

(57-7)+(6/(19^21))

This rounds to 50 in Excel... maybe we need to drop the ability to use powers?

EDITED above - no exponents.

QuikSand 08-01-2003 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Celeval
Nevermind, forgot QuickSand (sic) was MathGod.

Naw, just got a head start.

panerd 08-01-2003 02:51 PM

6/19/21 + 57 - 7 = 50.015...

dacman 08-01-2003 02:53 PM

57 - (7!/6!) + (19^-21) = ~50.0000000000000000000000000001

Yeah, exponents make it too easy.

QuikSand 08-01-2003 02:54 PM

Hmmmm... maybe we'll need to dump the factorials also... also make it too easy to use fewer of the terms.

Sorry - seems to be a work in progress.

QuikSand 08-01-2003 02:55 PM

Anyone else ready to concede to panerd on 50?

panerd 08-01-2003 02:57 PM

57/19 x 21 - 7 - 6 = 50 exactly

QuikSand 08-01-2003 02:58 PM

Nicely done. Pick the next target number.

dacman 08-01-2003 02:58 PM

No reason you couldn't do something like:

6/19!/21! + 57 - 7 = ~ 50 + 1*10^-9999999999999999999999

panerd 08-01-2003 02:58 PM

Same numbers, different target or new numbers?

QuikSand 08-01-2003 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by panerd
Same numbers, different target or new numbers?

Same numbers, different target - for now, at least.

(The 57/19 = 3 is unfortunate, I think)

dacman 08-01-2003 03:00 PM

My rule when I ran something similar is that the answer must be an integer -- it prevents a lot of the silliness above.

panerd 08-01-2003 03:00 PM

Allright, lets go with 100 as the target.

panerd 08-01-2003 03:03 PM

7 x 6 + 57 + 21 - 19 = 101

QuikSand 08-01-2003 03:05 PM

57+(7*6)+(21/19) = 100.1053

Franklinnoble 08-01-2003 03:06 PM

I have to stop reading this thread... I feel like Forrest Gump in a room full of Einsteins.

QuikSand 08-01-2003 03:08 PM

Anyone beating that 100.1053 ?

panerd 08-01-2003 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuikSand
57+(7*6)+(21/19) = 100.1053

If you switch the 21/19 to 19/21 you get just a little bit closer. There has got to be a way to get exactly 100 using 10^2 somehow.

QuikSand 08-01-2003 03:11 PM

Good catch, panerd:

57+(6*7)+(19/21) = ~99.90476

lurker 08-01-2003 03:11 PM

6 x 7 + 57 + 7 - 6 = 100

QuikSand 08-01-2003 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lurker
6 x 7 + 57 + 7 - 6 = 100

A couple too many each of 6 and 7, not enough of 19 and 21.

QuikSand 08-01-2003 03:14 PM

Well... I'll set the new target, and we'll go from there.

If anyone can hit 100 on the nose - they're welcome to keep working on it. Prize is ... uh... they get to pick a new set of five numbers to work with in bulding.



For now:

Use 6,7,19,21 and 57 to make... 88.

lurker 08-01-2003 03:15 PM

Whoops, sorry, I knew I didn't read the rules well enough!

digamma 08-01-2003 03:17 PM

(21-7)*6+(57/19)=87

Radii 08-01-2003 03:17 PM

57+21+7+(19/6) = ~88.16667

QuikSand 08-01-2003 03:18 PM

Radii beat me to mine... best I've got so far.

digamma 08-01-2003 03:19 PM

(19-6)*7+(57/21)=88.2857

QuikSand 08-01-2003 03:22 PM

Weird one:

57+(21*19)/(7+6) = ~87.69231

...not a winner, but strangely close.

QuikSand 08-01-2003 03:24 PM

Maybe we should put a time limit on each set? Ten minutes (marked by the board timer) and we move on?

digamma 08-01-2003 03:25 PM

Time limit would be good.

QuikSand 08-01-2003 03:26 PM

Okay - Radii, you're on for the next target number.

Ten minutes apiece from here on out. I'm good for about three more, as I watch the clock...

QuikSand 08-01-2003 03:29 PM

Okay, Radii has drifted to the dynasty section.

Here's our new target number: 600

QuikSand 08-01-2003 03:32 PM

(57*(19-6))-(21*7) = 594

Doubtful that's a winner, but it's something.

panerd 08-01-2003 03:32 PM

(21 + 19) x (7 + 6) + 57 = 577

QuikSand 08-01-2003 03:39 PM

(57*6)+(21*(19-7)) = 594

Masked 08-01-2003 03:39 PM

(57-7)*6*(21-19) = 600

QuikSand 08-01-2003 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Masked
(57-7)*6*(21-19) = 600

Good heavens that was easy.

You're up.

VPI97 08-01-2003 03:40 PM

(6 + 7 + 19 - 21) * 57 = 627

Edit - Yeah, 627 was close... :(

Masked 08-01-2003 03:41 PM

Same numbers: 6, 7, 19, 21, 57

Target: 257

panerd 08-01-2003 03:41 PM

Here I am trying to find ways to get the other four numbers to equal 28.5 so I can multiply by 21 and there is a way to get exactly 600!

digamma 08-01-2003 03:44 PM

(57-7)*6-(21+19)=260

panerd 08-01-2003 03:47 PM

(6 + (7/21)) ^ (57/19) = 254.03

A little closer than 260. :)

Masked 08-01-2003 03:48 PM

(19-7)*21+57/6 = 261.5

Masked 08-01-2003 03:49 PM

(19-6)*21-57/7 = 254.8571

better


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