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Ben E Lou 08-16-2003 07:40 PM

Vick is down.
 
He's being carted off the field. Knee or ankle injury.

Ben E Lou 08-16-2003 07:42 PM

They're saying it is an ankle injury.

GoldenEagle 08-16-2003 07:44 PM

Wow! Sounds like bad bad news.

Ben E Lou 08-16-2003 07:46 PM

Sideline reporter says they're thinking ankle sprain at this point.

Ben E Lou 08-16-2003 07:48 PM

Arthur Blank has gone into the locker room to be with him.

Doug Johnson hits a 42-yard completion on his first play of the night.

nilodor 08-16-2003 08:08 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/news/2003/08/16/vick_injury_ap/

Here is a link at CNNSI

tucker342 08-16-2003 08:11 PM

That really sucks!!!:(

Lets hope it's not a serious injury....

FBPro 08-16-2003 08:17 PM

Fractured fibula...just reported on Falcon's broadcast.

GrantDawg 08-16-2003 08:20 PM

Just not good. Good thing we have Doug Johnson.

JonInMiddleGA 08-16-2003 08:21 PM

FBPro beat me to it, fractured right fibula.

Ben E Lou 08-16-2003 08:22 PM

Braves broadcast is saying out 8-10 week.s

Alan T 08-16-2003 08:24 PM

:( So much for my football season having excitement :(

Fritz 08-16-2003 08:25 PM

fractured right fibula - hey, its not an ACL

Marmel 08-16-2003 08:26 PM

It was only a matter of time.

Leonidas 08-16-2003 08:26 PM

This was just a matter of time. A wonderful talent, but these guys who run so much inevitably get hurt in the pros. Steve Young is the only exception I can think of.

TargetPractice6 08-16-2003 08:26 PM

The Madden cover curse continues...

JonInMiddleGA 08-16-2003 08:27 PM

That sound you hear btw is the hissing of the air being let out of the Falcons balloon.

Meanwhile, here's a recent column by veteran Atl sportswriter Furman Bisher about the value of Doug Johnson
Bisher on Johnson

And since this is FOFC & the thread is about Vick, here's an AJC article about the "Video Vick" & what the real thing thinks about himself in the new Madden.
http://www.ajc.com/falcons/content/s...4vickgame.html

dacman 08-16-2003 08:28 PM

Reason #88 I wait until pre-season is almost over to draft my fantasy teams.

kcchief19 08-16-2003 08:45 PM

Yeah, I had to run over to Yahoo and ink Doug Johnson to a deal before my season was over before it began. I hate drafting fantasy teams early, but I put up with it because it is free. In my money leagues, we always do the draft mid-week before opening weekend.

Ben E Lou 08-16-2003 08:47 PM

Falcons fans, could this be a blessing in disguise?

1. Doug Johnson isn't exactly chopped liver.
2. Spotlight and pressure is now on offensive line. Vick covered up their mistakes quite often. Johnson won't. Perhaps this unit, which is pretty young other than Whitfield, to re-focus and step it up and notch in the first half of the season and then....
3. Vick returns mid-season, isn't quite as mobile, but is playing being a much-improved offensive line.

Looking for a silver lining,

--Ben

Fritz 08-16-2003 08:48 PM

go panthers

markprior22 08-16-2003 08:48 PM

I'm a Dallas fan but I was really looking forward to watching Vick this season. Hope he recovers quickly

FBPro 08-16-2003 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDog
Falcons fans, could this be a blessing in disguise?

1. Doug Johnson isn't exactly chopped liver.
2. Spotlight and pressure is now on offensive line. Vick covered up their mistakes quite often. Johnson won't. Perhaps this unit, which is pretty young other than Whitfield, to re-focus and step it up and notch in the first half of the season and then....
3. Vick returns mid-season, isn't quite as mobile, but is playing being a much-improved offensive line.

Looking for a silver lining,

--Ben



Could be, let's hope this is the case.

TroyF 08-16-2003 08:59 PM

six weeks isn't complete devastation. Vick has usually been a pretty quick healer in the past. He may only be out 3 to 4 regular season games.

Not sure what the "it was only a matter of time" opinions are. Was it only a matter of time before Marino blew out his achilles? Vick was sacked moving up in the pocket looking for a WR, not as a RB 10 yards downfield. There have been a lot of running QB's who have stayed pretty healthy in their careers.

In other news. . . the Jake Plummer from Arizona showed up tonight in Denver. He was terrible.

TroyF

bosshogg23 08-16-2003 09:02 PM

One of my friends drafted Vick 9th overall, sucks for him.

Atlanta certainly has a big drop off with Johnson but their WR's are improved over last season and HOPEFULLY someone has sold TJ Duckett a clue and their running backs improve. All is not lost if he is gone for 3-4 weeks.

Marmel 08-16-2003 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TroyF
six weeks isn't complete devastation. Vick has usually been a pretty quick healer in the past. He may only be out 3 to 4 regular season games.

Not sure what the "it was only a matter of time" opinions are. Was it only a matter of time before Marino blew out his achilles? Vick was sacked moving up in the pocket looking for a WR, not as a RB 10 yards downfield. There have been a lot of running QB's who have stayed pretty healthy in their careers.

In other news. . . the Jake Plummer from Arizona showed up tonight in Denver. He was terrible.

TroyF




I will explain my position, Troy.

Yes, he was hit in the backfield, but because of the amount of times he runs, he gets hit a lot, and eventually the odds catch up with you. And let's face it, he is not the biggest guy on the field. He just looks like he is going to get broken in half out there. I thought so when he was drated and I still think that he will suffer many more injures in his career as long as he is being a part time running back.

Ben E Lou 08-16-2003 09:15 PM

LOL!!!

Bob Whitfield was just asked about Vick's injury on-camera. His response, and it got past the censors: "Well, shit happens." :D

CAsterling 08-16-2003 09:36 PM

Great, at least the Vick Hype machine will be silent for a few weeks - to me this guy is just another Randall Cuningham - looks great and exciting, but will probably never live up to the hype.

Give me Plummer any day of the week :)

sachmo71 08-16-2003 10:02 PM

Vick should end up with a more successful pro career than Cunningham. I think he's smarter. I was looking forward to watching him hooking up with Price. Hopefully he recovers soon.

Nyarlahotep 08-16-2003 10:08 PM

Weird coincidence, In the season of Madden I was simming yesterdy and today Vick missed most of the preseason and about half the regular season. I can't remember what the injury was though.

FBPro 08-16-2003 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CAsterling
Great, at least the Vick Hype machine will be silent for a few weeks - to me this guy is just another Randall Cuningham - looks great and exciting, but will probably never live up to the hype.

Give me Plummer any day of the week :)



Glady.......you can have Plummer, Leaf and I'll even throw in Andre Ware.

:)

illinifan999 08-16-2003 10:13 PM

Kurt Kittner baby! :D

sabotai 08-16-2003 10:37 PM

"This was just a matter of time. A wonderful talent, but these guys who run so much inevitably get hurt in the pros. Steve Young is the only exception I can think of."

You mean other than all the concussions he got, right? :)

tucker342 08-16-2003 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TroyF

In other news. . . the Jake Plummer from Arizona showed up tonight in Denver. He was terrible.

TroyF



What did you expect from Jake Plummer???

Neuqua 08-16-2003 10:48 PM

I like Jake Plummer :(

TroyF 08-16-2003 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tucker342
What did you expect from Jake Plummer???


Actually, I expected he'd suck. I was probably the only person in Denver who wanted Brian Greise to stay.

TroyF

Sharpieman 08-16-2003 11:28 PM

I always thought that Vick would become one of those players who had so much potential but would end up being a player who has a career of injuries. I hope he comes back sooner then 8-10 weeks because he's fun to watch.

3ric 08-17-2003 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bosshogg23
One of my friends drafted Vick 9th overall, sucks for him.



Drafted him 11th overall myself. *sigh*

thesloppy 08-17-2003 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 3ric
Drafted him 11th overall myself. *sigh*


Kept him in my keeper league, of course we drafted *yesterday*. Thankfully I picked up Brooks and McNair, so things could be worse.

mckerney 08-17-2003 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 3ric
Drafted him 11th overall myself. *sigh*


Could be worse. I drafted Micheal Bennett 3rd overall in one league, and I knew he was injured. I'm so fucking stupid. :(

Dutch 08-17-2003 01:09 AM

That's too bad, the Bucs will only get to shut him and his press corp down once this year...Stay healthy for week 16 Vic!!!!

davidlando1 08-17-2003 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by illinifan999
Kurt Kittner baby! :D


Spoken like a true Illini!!!

On the other hand, this really stinks that Vick is hurt, damn I love to watch him play. Anyone who can whip the Pack in their own house, in the playoffs no less...has earned my lifelong respect.

MikeVic 08-17-2003 02:32 AM

Ahh!!! Vick!! Please get better! I was REALLY looking forward to watching the Falcons this year... this really sucks :(

GrantDawg 08-17-2003 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by illinifan999
Kurt Kittner baby! :D


Looked bad last night. If Johnson goes down, the Falcons will be in big trouble. I think Johnson will show his value.


Quote:

Originally posted by Skydog
Falcons fans, could this be a blessing in disguise?

1. Doug Johnson isn't exactly chopped liver.
2. Spotlight and pressure is now on offensive line. Vick covered up their mistakes quite often. Johnson won't. Perhaps this unit, which is pretty young other than Whitfield, to re-focus and step it up and notch in the first half of the season and then....
3. Vick returns mid-season, isn't quite as mobile, but is playing being a much-improved offensive line.

Looking for a silver lining,

--Ben



I think you saw the same thing I did, SD. The second Doug got in there, the line could suddenly block. I don't know if Vick motivates the Defense of other teams so much that they really burn it while he is in there, or if the O-line gets motivated because they know they have to give Johnson more time. You definitely saw a 2-3 second difference in pocket protection between what Vick had and what Johnson had.

Only missing 4 weeks of the regular season isn't bad. I think it might benifit the Falcons by having the other skill players step-it up also. This team has much more talent on the offensive side of the ball compared to last year, so it will just be up to Johnson to show he can run a offense.

Chief Rum 08-17-2003 03:49 PM

You guys won't believe this. You know what I was doing last night? Attending a fantasy football draft at a friend's house. You know what I did? Oh yeah...

We drafted the first round, with one guy running behind. He was the first pick and called his in on his cell. We finished the first round by the time he walked through the door, including me taking Vick with the sixth overall pick. He looked up at our draft board (yes, we had an imprmptu draft board :) ), and said, "Isn't Vick hurt?"

I stared bug-eyed at him and asked him what he was talking about. No one else did either--none of us had heard anything. But then when we presed him on it, it turned out he was talking about some offseason surgery that he thought was going to affect Vick, we all let let out sighs of relief, me a big one. So then it became a running joke, that Vick was hurt.

Ten rounds go by, and not only do I have Vick, but because of a confluence of receiver picks, I found myself forced to take Peerless Price (I usually don't like to match my receiver and quarterback, with byes and bad games putting you of action).

So we turn on a sports TV show around then, and what's almost the first thing we see? "Vick Injured"...NOOOOOO!!!!!

What are the odds? What are the freaking odds? :rolleyes:

Anyway, I also drafted Trent Green, who I think is going to have a huge year, and Tom Brady, who is effective. But you gotta know losing your first round pick like that isn't going to be doing me much good. :(

Get well, Michael. For the first time, I actually care that you're playing. :)

Chief Rum

sabotai 08-17-2003 03:57 PM

At least it happened early in preseason. Imagine if it happened in the last week of the preseason. That'd be 2 more weeks of regular season action he'd be out.

Cringer 08-17-2003 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leonidas
This was just a matter of time. A wonderful talent, but these guys who run so much inevitably get hurt in the pros. Steve Young is the only exception I can think of.


WHAT ABOUT FAVRE?
Not a guy who runs up field a lot but he runs around the backfield enough to equal just about any "running" QB in being free of the protection of his lineman..........and he has never missed a start...until now cause i just jinxed him but anyways..........

JeeberD 08-17-2003 05:53 PM

Maybe the Cowboys will have a chance in Week 1 now...

Chief Rum 08-17-2003 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cringer
WHAT ABOUT FAVRE?
Not a guy who runs up field a lot but he runs around the backfield enough to equal just about any "running" QB in being free of the protection of his lineman..........and he has never missed a start...until now cause i just jinxed him but anyways..........



I don't have an opinion one way or another on if running quarterbacks are more subjected to injury than pocket passers, and I agree that Favre is very elusive within a small space, but, Cringer, you're going to have to come up with an actual running quarterback who stays healthy to fight that point. As much as Favre dances around, he is still pretty much the ultimate pocket passer, and not a running quarterback at all. If I look up pocket passer in the dictionary, I don't look under 'P', but 'F'.

CR

cthomer5000 08-17-2003 07:40 PM

I think there will be surprisingly little drop-off in the Atlanta offense. They've got 2 backs to carry the rushing load, and Doug Johnson has always looked great when playing. I think they'll certainly hold it together until Vick is ready. For his sake I hope the team is doing well so he doesn't have to rush his recovery.


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