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Easy Mac 01-30-2004 11:21 PM

The Final FOFC Draft: Cartoon Character Draft
 
Disclaimer: This idea is not original, but I got it from every other draft thread, and I might as well try to end this thing And I pay homage to Maple Leafs for the ground rules, which have been modified slightly to account for the difference between cartoons and video games.

The draft: I'm looking for ten FOFCers to take part in a ten-round draft. Your drafting cartoon characters (with certain rules, see below). At the end of the draft, a winner will be determined by a vote. The criteria for choosing that winner will be up to the voters, but essentially you want to put together the best possible group of famous characters.

The rules:
1. This only includes Movie cartoons (Mickey Mouse, Nemo, Buzz....) and TV cartoons. Comic strips are not included.
2. Once a character is taken, he's off the board regardless of how many cartoons he's appeared in. If you take Scooby Doo, the next guy can't take Scooby Doo from the Hanna Barbara Laugh-a-lympics.
3. The character can exist in other mediums prior. However, only what they do in cartoons matter when taking into account the relevance of the character if they existed prior to a cartoon. For example, if you take Wolverine, his significance only relates to the X-men cartoon, not the comic, since it came first. Nor does the movie count, because it came from the Comic book. However, everything Bart Simpson spawned (music, phrases, shirts...) counts. This may seem unfair, but its the rules I'm laying down.
4. You can take any type of character (human, creature, male, female, good, bad, etc) as long as you can describe him/her/it in some way that we understand who you mean.
5. You're drafting specific characters, not general types. Bart Simpson from the Simpsons is OK. "the Simpsons" in general are not.
6. If you make an invalid pick based on these rules and someone points it out, you lose your pick. If necessary, be prepared to show some sort of evidence that your pick is valid.
7. Draft will go in serpentine order based off a random order. If needed, we'll put time limits on picks during the week.

I intend to sit on the sidelines and comment, do a mock draft, give my sleepers, surprises and stretches at the end/prior to each round. If you can't handle some good natured ribbing, then this isn't for you. If people want to shout out characters,thats cool. If needed, I will participate.

Current Draft Round 1:
1. PsychoCop - Optimus Prime
2. sterlingice - Bugs Bunny
3. Suicane75 - Homer Simpson
4. ardent enthusiast - Mickey Mouse
5. Chubby - Goku (Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Dragonball GT)
6. TredWel - Donald Duck
7. WSUCougar - Scooby Doo
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Fat Albert
9. Tigercat - Popeye
10. oykib - Tom (from Tom and Jerry)
11. EagleEye11 - Daffy Duck
12. k0ruptr - Fred Flintstone
13. kingfc22 - Goofy
14. SirFozzie - Peter Pan
15. Ragone - Rocky (Rocky and Bullwinkle)

Round 2:
1. Ragone - Bullwinkle (Rocky and Bullwinkle)
2. SirFozzie - Snake Eyes (GI Joe)
3. kingfc22 - Bart Simpson
4. k0ruptr - Mighty Mouse
5. EagleEye11 - Winnie the Pooh
6. oykib - Betty Boop
7. Tigercat - Yogi the Bear
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Captain Caveman
9. WSUCougar - Speed Racer
10. TredWel - Wile E. Coyote
11. Chubby - Hong Kong Phooey
12. ardent enthusiast - Woody Woodpecker
13. Suicane75 - Beavis
14. sterlingice - Pikachu
15. PsychoCop - Astro Boy

Round 3:
1. PsychoCop - Mazinger Z
2. sterlingice - He-Man
3. Suicane75 - Stewie (Family Guy)
4. ardent enthusiast - Papa Smurf
5. Chubby - Elmer Fudd
6. TredWel - Eric Cartman (South Park)
7. WSUCougar - Johnny Quest
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Killer (the buzzard from Buggs Bunny)
9. Tigercat - The Pink Panther
10. oykib - Lynn Minmei
11. EagleEye11 - Felix the Cat
12. k0ruptr - Batman
13. kingfc22 - George (o the Jungle)
14. SirFozzie - Princess Alurra (Voltron)
15. Ragone - RoadRunner

Round 4:
1. Ragone - The Brain (Pinky and The Brain/Tiny Toons)
2. SirFozzie - Wakko Warner (Animaniacs)
3. kingfc22 - Alvin (of "and the Chipmunks)
4. k0ruptr - Johnny Bravo
5. EagleEye11 - SpongeBob Squarepants
6. oykib - Buzz Lightyear (Toy Story)
7. Tigercat - Casper
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Snagglepuss
WSUCougar - Sylvester (the cat)
10. TredWel - Tasmanian Devil
11. Chubby - Cobra Commander
12. ardent enthusiast - Top Cat (via k0ruptor)
13. Suicane75 - Peter Griffin
14. sterlingice - George Jetson
15. PsychoCop - Genie

Round 5:
1. PsychoCop - Simba
2. sterlingice -Garfield
3. Suicane75 - Shaggy
4. ardent enthusiast - Woody (Toy Story)
5. Chubby - Superman
6. TredWel - Inspector Gadget
7. WSUCougar - Tigger
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Princess Ariel
9. Tigercat - The Shredder
10. oykib - Space Ghost
11. EagleEye11 - Snow White
12. k0ruptr - Aladdin
13. kingfc22 - Snoopy
14. SirFozzie - Muttley
15. Ragone - Marvin the Martian

Round 6:
1. Ragone - The Tick
2. SirFozzie - Quickdraw McGraw
3. kingfc22 - Yosemite Sam
4. k0ruptr - Porky Pig
5. EagleEye11 - Charlie Brown
6. oykib - Spiderman
7. Tigercat - Gumby
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Scooby-Dumb
9. WSUCougar - Aquaman
10. TredWel - Bender
11. Chubby - is gay
12. ardent enthusiast - Roger Rabbit
13. Suicane75 - Mr. Burns
14. sterlingice - Megatron
15. PsychoCop - starscream


Round 7:
1. PsychoCop - bravestarr
2. sterlingice - Leonardo
3. Suicane75 - Daphne
4. ardent enthusiast - Donatello
5. Chubby - is a tool
6. TredWel - Foghorn Leghorn
7. WSUCougar - Shrek
8. BigJohn&TheLions - the Great Gazoo
9. Tigercat - Dumbo
10. oykib - Mr. Magoo
11. EagleEye11 - underdog
12. k0ruptr - tweety bird
13. kingfc22 - Keith (voltron)
14. SirFozzie - Baroness
15. Ragone - Strongbad

Round 8:
1. Ragone - Brian Griffin
2. SirFozzie - captain crunch
3. kingfc22 - Belle (Beauty and the Beast)
4. k0ruptr - Barney Rubble
5. EagleEye11 - Ren
6. oykib - Dexter
7. Tigercat - Scrooge McDuck
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Boris Badenov
9. WSUCougar - Josie (of the and the Pussycats)
10. TredWel - Dudley do right
11. Chubby - is giving head.
12. ardent enthusiast - Bobby Hill
13. Suicane75 - Battleship Yamato
14. sterlingice - Chip (Chip & Dale)
15. PsychoCop - Michaelangelo

Round 9:
1. PsychoCop - Raphael
2. sterlingice - Lisa Simpson
3. Suicane75 - duckman
4. ardent enthusiast - Jayce
5. Chubby - gay
6. TredWel - Jay Sherman
7. WSUCougar - Rudolph (the reindeer)
8. BigJohn&TheLions - Ranger Smith
9. Tigercat - Baloo
10. oykib - Jerry (the mouse)
11. EagleEye11 - Wonder Woman
12. k0ruptr - Speedy Gonzalez
13. kingfc22 - Bam-Bam
14. SirFozzie is up
15. Ragone - Nemo

Round 10:
1. Ragone - Mr. Peabody
2. SirFozzie is up
3. kingfc22 is up
4. k0ruptr
5. EagleEye11
6. oykib
7. Tigercat
8. BigJohn&TheLions
9. WSUCougar
10. TredWel
11. Chubby
12. ardent enthusiast
13. Suicane75
14. sterlingice
15. PsychoCop

Suicane75 01-30-2004 11:25 PM

Count me in.

Easy Mac 01-30-2004 11:29 PM

Note: Once I get some people offering to be in it, I'll start mocking it up and stuff, do some random numbering, and then starting for real on Monday when I wake up. Hopefully this thing can start running smoothly while I am at school during the day, then I can make snide remarks when I get out of class.

If you can't be around the computer a lot during the draft, feel free to send me list ( you top 10 or 20), and I'll put those as your pick as they come up on the list. Hopefully it will move quickly , at least a pick an hour if possible, though I don't expect it to go all night.

Poli 01-30-2004 11:38 PM

I'm in. I could use the humor. I hope you can.

Chubby 01-31-2004 12:13 AM

I'm in

WSUCougar 01-31-2004 12:34 AM

Sure.

TredWel 01-31-2004 12:36 AM

I missed the Video Game draft (a good thing, in retrospect), so I'll do this one.

kingfc22 01-31-2004 12:40 AM

I'm game.

Poli 01-31-2004 12:40 AM

I promise to try and draft only my favorite characters, regardless of what you people think. :)

Poli 01-31-2004 12:41 AM

dola, we're filling quickly now!

SirFozzie 01-31-2004 01:03 AM

I'm in :)

k0ruptr 01-31-2004 02:28 AM

I'd like to be in.

Ragone 01-31-2004 04:31 AM

ooh sounds like fun :)

Tigercat 01-31-2004 04:52 AM

I'm in, might as well use all the time i spend on this board is some concrete fashion.

BigJohn&TheLions 01-31-2004 04:59 AM

Hell, I could even maybe get into this one (if there is an opening...)

PsychoCop 01-31-2004 05:36 AM

If there's still an opening, I'd want to be in. :D

oykib 01-31-2004 05:45 AM

I'm down if there is an opening....

Danny 01-31-2004 07:30 AM

Ill be in if there's still an opening.

sterlingice 01-31-2004 07:47 AM

I'd like in if there's an opening. If not, I suppose I can do commentary again as cartoons are another of my fortes. Unfortunately, I'm running low on time as the semester is gearing up.

SI

Easy Mac 01-31-2004 09:45 AM

Well, I'm going to bump it up to 12, since I'm trying to include as many people as possible. Edit: Now 15

The 12 in it, the I will use a random number to determine the order:
Note: THis is not the draft order, but the signup order
1. Suicane75
2. ardent enthusiast
3. Chubby
4. WSUCougar
5. TredWel
6. kingfc22
7. SirFozzie
8. k0ruptr
9. Ragone
10. Tigercat
11. BigJohn&TheLions
12. PsychoCop
13. oykib
14. EagleEye11
15. sterlingice

I'll start thinking of mock draft stuff and enter a Random Number generator. I'll post the results tomorrow, and we will start promptly at 8 AM on Monday. That being said, it will really be up to the first person to actually start with the picks. As I said ,hopefully an average of about a pick an hour during the daytime, then whatever through late night.

Poli 01-31-2004 09:59 AM

Bump it to 15, punk. Let SI in. I command thee.

Danny 01-31-2004 10:11 AM

Yes, bump it to 15 for the sake of SI.

Poli 01-31-2004 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleEye11
Yes, bump it to 15 for the sake of SI.



:)

And EE11. :)

Easy Mac 01-31-2004 10:29 AM

OK, 15 it is.

Danny 01-31-2004 10:32 AM

Woo Hoo, thanks Easy Mac.

Easy Mac 01-31-2004 10:35 AM

Draft Order:
12. PsychoCop
15. sterlingice
1. Suicane75
2. ardent enthusiast
3. Chubby
5. TredWel
4. WSUCougar
11. BigJohn&TheLions
10. Tigercat
13. oykib
14. EagleEye11
8. k0ruptr
6. kingfc22
7. SirFozzie
9. Ragone

This starts Monday, but get your ideas a'runnin'

MJ4H 01-31-2004 10:38 AM

:( too late again.

Poli 01-31-2004 11:12 AM

MattJones, you can be my offensive coordinator. :)

EagleEye, you should thank me as well. I commanded him. :)

Danny 01-31-2004 11:35 AM

Too true, thanks AE. This should be fun.

Poli 01-31-2004 12:06 PM

Shoot, I'm not going for the win. I'm going for obscurity. I already know who'll I'll draft. No one will touch my draft picks. :)

The Afoci 01-31-2004 12:12 PM

I wonder how long until the first Japanese Cartoon Porn characters come in....

Poli 01-31-2004 12:13 PM

Japanese Porn?

Easy Mac 01-31-2004 12:18 PM

And yes, if you're wondering, all TV or Movie cartoon characters are eligible... so if you want to say some obscure cartoon from Botswana, so be it.

But to note: You can't say Botswana Scooby Doo if someone has already said Scooby Doo.

Poli 01-31-2004 12:27 PM

Rock on.

kingfc22 01-31-2004 02:28 PM

Blew my first pick already. I was going to use Botswana Scooby Doo. AGGHHH.

sterlingice 01-31-2004 02:28 PM

Well, I think there are 2 consensus top picks so I'll get the one that PsychoCop doesn't. :D

SI

Poli 01-31-2004 02:43 PM

I doubt consensus is the word to use here. My picks will hardly be the popular choices. :) Looking forward to the draft grade already. :)

sterlingice 01-31-2004 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac
3. The character can exist in other mediums prior. However, only what they do in cartoons matter when taking into account the relevance of the character if they existed prior to a cartoon. For example, if you take Wolverine, his significance only relates to the X-men cartoon, not the comic, since it came first. Nor does the movie count, because it came from the Comic book. However, everything Bart Simpson spawned (music, phrases, shirts...) counts. This may seem unfair, but its the rules I'm laying down.

6. If you make an invalid pick based on these rules and someone points it out, you lose your pick. If necessary, be prepared to show some sort of evidence that your pick is valid.

A couple of rules suggestions to float (and obviously if you think they're a bad idea, since it's your draft, just pass them up).

On #6- With only 10 picks in the draft, why not just say they lose the pick but get a chance to get a new pick (but it likely will be after a few others have already picked unless people jump on your pick immediately after you make it). Also, have a little of a statue of limitations on this so that someone in the 10th round can't say the person's pick in the 1st round is invalid.

On #3, I'm curious for a clarification since I'm kindof unclear. Let me think... trying to come up with an example, ok, let's say, the Powerpuff Girls, they were in cartoon form first and then had a movie. So does all of that count since they were cartoon first?

Again, just a couple of suggestions. Do with them as you will.

SI

Danny 01-31-2004 03:05 PM

Powerpuff girls movie was animated as well. Perhaps the better name to this draft would be the Animated Character's Draft :).

Danny 01-31-2004 10:15 PM

You have the 3rd pick, the draft order is the order of the name listed, the number next to your name is your signup number

Suicane75 01-31-2004 10:17 PM

Ya know, I looked at that for half an hour and couldn't figure that out. I should never post while drinking.

PsychoCop 02-01-2004 07:40 AM

oooh! i get the first pick... hmmm... I'm pretty much a hardcore 80's toons fans, so you probably all know who I'm going to pick. :D

BUT I'm pretty much guessing that everyone's clamoring for either the head of the Disney Empire OR the head of the Warner Bros. Empire to be selected first... right?

So... I will still have to THINK! Yes, people. THINK! But heck, I'd probably go with my heart rather than my mind...

EasyMac, I live in a different time zone... about 10 hours in difference, so I'll just PM you my first pick on Sunday Night, ET. Alrighty?

Easy Mac 02-01-2004 10:18 AM

cool

Poli 02-01-2004 10:21 AM

You better have some good commentary lined up. :)

Suicane75 02-01-2004 10:22 AM

Being at #3, Im very interested to see who goes 1-2, I feel like either way I'm gonna get 1 of the cornerstones or the one I REALLY Want, so i'll be good either way.

Easy Mac 02-01-2004 10:23 AM

I'm planning on it, but my girl took up too much of my time this morning... but trust me, I was thinking about you guys the whole time.

Of course, now she has me going to her house to watch the Super Bowl with her parents, so...

Danny 02-01-2004 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac
I'm planning on it, but my girl took up too much of my time this morning... but trust me, I was thinking about you guys the whole time.

Of course, now she has me going to her house to watch the Super Bowl with her parents, so...



:eek: You've been Doug Christied

Easy Mac 02-01-2004 10:48 AM

Well, when you're getting what you're getting, you don't complain (and yes, I'm talking in the 2nd person.)

Easy Mac 02-01-2004 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice
On #3, I'm curious for a clarification since I'm kindof unclear. Let me think... trying to come up with an example, ok, let's say, the Powerpuff Girls, they were in cartoon form first and then had a movie. So does all of that count since they were cartoon first?

Again, just a couple of suggestions. Do with them as you will.

SI


In my opinion, its more of a criteria to use when you think of significance. So if a cartoon was first in print (comic) form, its harder to say that all cultural significance that came after it was due to the animated cartoon series (So like the X-men were a comic, then a pretty good cartoon, then a movie). Its more of a vote criteria at the end in determining the "top" team. If you want to argue that an X-men movie only came about because of the awesome cartoon, feel free, you may convince people.

And Movie cartoons count as well. This is for things like Mickey Mouse, Nemo, the Antz or whatever.

Suicane75 02-01-2004 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac
And Movie cartoons count as well. This is for things like Mickey Mouse, Nemo, the Antz or whatever.


Dude, why did you mention Mickey mouse, now everyone knows about him!!
:)


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