Best/Worst Presidents?
 

I saw on another thread that people listed who they thought were the best and worst Presidents of their lifetime. I thought this was kinda cool, so I'd like to see how people rate them on a thread of its own. I would also like to see people rate past Presidents that they haven't been around to see. All the way back to Washington. Just rate as many as you like, first to worst or worst to first, you can give a reason or not. Include Bush II or not, whatever. BTW, these are peoples opinions, so if someone selectively leaves something out that others think is important to evaluating a Prez's success (like Clintons fun with a cigar), it shouldn't matter because its their opinion. This isn't intended to be a debate either just a thing for fun.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt. The New Deal. Period.

I'll just quote my original post on this.


It'll be fun if we get more people playing along.

Ulysses S. Grant had the most corrupt presidency, so I suppose that could make him one of the top candidates for the worst president.

Yeah, he'd be high on my list of the worst too.

but we're speaking of "in our lifetime" gentlemen.

Worst= Jimmy Carter.

Best= Ronald Reagan.

I'm 163.

Ah, Cam

In my lifetime:

Worst = George H.W. Bush
Best = Bill Clinton

Never mind.

Best-Reagan
Worst-Clinton(no contest)

aha!

In that case:

Worst: Grant

Best: Thomas Jefferson. Viva la Louisiana Purchase!

Booooo... You edited it.

In other news, I stuck my thumb in my ass and discovered Jesus.

Classic........

Hey, I have to agree with Bosco. :| I'm only 17 :|

In my lifetime, I'd put Reagan as the best. I had an idyllic childhood, and I somehow always equate how I remember American culture with Ronald Reagan. Somehow, I just think he garnered more respect than Carter or any of the presidents who followed him.

Carter was probably the most inept, and Clinton was terribly corrupt and irresponsible... I was embarrassed to have him in office.

I think Bush 1.0 did alright, but while he did a good job handling worldwide political change, he could have done better with the economy at home - although I don't know how much you can really blame a President for the economy... just as I think Clinton gets too much credit for the economy during his tenure.... it's not as if he invented the Internet (that was Al Gore ;))

The jury is still out on Bush 2.0. I like how he has handled things post-9/11, but I think he's treading a fine line with the Dept. of Homeland Security, and I think he should have been more clear ahead of time on why we went to war with Iraq. He (or somebody in his administration) had to know that there was a possibility of not finding WMD's... and that really shouldn't have been sold as the primary motivation. Saddam had plenty of other reasons to get removed from power.

In my lifetime:

Best: John F. Kennedy
Worst: George W. Bush (which takes some doing, considering the extremely low regard I have for Richard Nixon and Lyndon Johnson)

All-time:

Best: Abraham Lincoln
Worst: James Buchanan

Best: FDR

Worst: Herbert Hoover

Did you remove your head first? If not, that's likely what you discovered.

This is obviously an exercise in futility.

A trademarked FOFC trait.

Anyone who doesn't put Nixon well ahead of Kennedy must not have been paying attention.

If I removed my head, it wouldn't be as tight. Obviously you don't like things anally. Your wife must be pissed.

Best: Reagan

Worst: Clinton

His wife has others to take care of that.

And with that, a spike in condom sales in his hometown should be expected.

I don't use condoms. I'm so large, I have to use a Hefty sack.

Best: Teddy Roosevelt
Worst: U.S. Grant - Great general, which is the only reason he became president. Warfare may have been his only talent though.

I can't judge recent presidents at all objectively, so I won't even try.

Well, I certainly wouldn't want to find a mexican up there. Then she'd really get pissed.

I don't know why everyone is capping on Grant. I thought he did pretty good in "Wild Wild West."

I wouldn't recommend going at it without a condom. Last I checked, the crabs had formed their own colony. She didn't shave, they cut it down, formed huts. It did explain the hairy ass though.

That would be a hell of a way to run a board.

"How did you get into the country?"

"In some ladies ass."

No shit...well, not exactly true but it would be one hell of a way wouldn't it?

Maybe that could be why all the large white ladies in Fargo seem to be married to the immigrants...

I kid. Sort of. It seems true.

I got nothing.

And then Mavis mercifully reached for the x-lax.

Me either.

Charlton Heston baby! WOOOOO!

"You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hands"

:) Seriously I'm not enough into politics to be able to rate presidents. I am however pretty big on US history, so I think I'm going to go with TJ.

I believe that Lincoln, hands down, was the greatest president. Washington was also very impressive - it's always difficult being the first. Both are amazing figures. Either Roosevelt also could be number one.

As far as the worst, well, lots of presidents did nothing. But the ones who really screwed the pooch were Harding, Buchanan, and Grant.

Worst President ever? Without putting more effort into some of the presidents of the 1800s, where there are some excellent candidates, I would say LBJ.

Justification for my position later.

Personally, I have not been around long enough to really comment(18 years) on best and worst because there's not really a lot of choice or me caring as a young child but I'll do my best to make comments anyway.

Just a small comment on LBJ. You claim that he didn't make an effort to do anything at home but I think that's a bit of an unfair statement. He did have his "Great Society" plan and although he did get caught up in Vietnam, it's really fair to disregard his entire domestic policy. He pushed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 through Congress. He also managed to get education aid upped and get Medicare and Medicaid passed. He helped institute low-income hoising laws, rent-supplement programs and gave out block grants to improve cities. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 also struck down any remaining barriers which would allow voting to be descriminatory. He also set up the HUD and Transportation departments. Johnson instituted "affirmative action" as well.

Now obviously, you many not agree with his domestic policies and Vietnam was mishandled but to write him off as doing "zip at home" is a tad bit short sighted.

Clinton was the best. who cares about his blowjob. at least he didn't send hundreds of americans to their deaths on faulty assumptions and bad information, costing USA millions in the process with little payoff other than some false notion of "safety", because everyone knows a war on terror will eradicate all semblance of terrorism forever. Slick Willy was in office for the best boom in economy ever, and during his administration we had 8 years of relative peace.

where have you gone, 1990's, we miss you.

As bad as Grant was, at least he wasn't Andy Johnson. His fucking up reconstruction set the nation back several generations...

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1. George W Bush - I hate the asshat....

2. Ronald Reagan - ...He's the only guy who has been president I've hated.

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ummm, am I the only one who saw a slight discrepency... Oh yeah, maybe it is all part of the same presidency. Little Georgie couldn't have been prez if not for Ronnie's gang helping him screw things up...

His disaterous policies at home are at the center of my argument for LBJ as the worst president.

The over/under on his tenure here is about 2 weeks, and I don't feel like being dragged down with him.


As for the Presidents, here's what I said in the other thread.
As for other ones, I think JFK gets overrated because he wasn't in office long enough for anything bad to really stick to him. Washington is unquestionably #1 on my list. I don't know enough about most other Presidents to really rank them or say too much.

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I noticed it this morning but didn't see it as that important to edit. Didn't think folks here would paint this into some sort of conspiracy theory. For the record I'll downgrade W to simple strong dislike and distrust. I still hate Reagan.

reagan basically single handedly bringing down the soviet union makes him the best president of my lifetime. as for this century, FDR would have to be my choice because of the way he was able to guide the US out of the depression, and bring us through WWII victoriously on both fronts. As for the worst of my lifetime: bill clinton. the economy was starting to get better under george bush sr. and clinton took all the credit for it. also, all the corruption during his two terms was just ridiculous. the day he left office was a great day for me. as for the worst president ever, i would give the award to herbert hoover and the disaster that was "the great depression".

Two comments for you and I really am interested in your response. One is what exactly you feel is so disasterous about about his domestic policies. The second one is kind of realted in that if it is simply because you don't agree with his policies, I was just saying that he did attempt to pass legislation on the domestic side and it's not like he completely forgot about home which is the feeling I gathered from Axxon's post.

Lifetime
Best - Reagan
Worst - Clinton
Most apathetic - Carter

All-time
Best - Lincoln
Worst - W.H.Harrison - He was sick the whole time + it was the death of the Whig Party.

Check this out and then answer who is the worst...

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/true911.html

I'm only 19, so it would be unfair to rate the 3 Presidents that I have actually paid attention to in order.
All-Time
Top three Best:
1. FDR- Although he had some faults he was still great.
2. Thomas Jefferson - He was the old time Clinton, loved the women, but he was a good President and my favorite founding father.
3. Lincoln - Leader during the Civil War, Emancipation Proclamation.

Worst 3 ever:
1. Woodrow Wilson -Had the dumbest foreign policy ever. His strategy during the treaty of Versailles was horrible. He greatly contributed to the cause of WW2.
2. Grant - Great military, lackluster politician.
3. Lyndon Johnson - Everybody knows he sucked.

Overrated Presidents in no order:
Kennedy: Although he helped further civil liberties, he almost caused WW3 with the Bay of Pigs conflict.
Reagan: His brilliant "Regonomics" pushed the Federal Deficit from $1 trillion to $3 trillion during his tenure.