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CamEdwards 04-26-2004 11:43 AM

Good Actors, Bad Movies
 
So I'm flipping channels the other night and stumbled across "Once Bitten", starring a young Jim Carrey. I knew that he was in this movie, but as I'm watching the credits, I see that Megan Mullalley (Karen from "Will and Grace") was also in this! I had no idea.

Anybody else know of really shitty movies that had cast members who went on to have solid (or spectacular) careers?

HornedFrog Purple 04-26-2004 11:50 AM

Yes. "Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation" starring Matthew McConaughey and Renee Zellweger.

Honolulu_Blue 04-26-2004 11:51 AM

There is the hole Tom Hanks in "Bachelor Party" situation...

Franklinnoble 04-26-2004 11:58 AM

Robert DeNiro in "Rocky and Bullwinkle."

Oh, and about half the cast of "Dick Tracy"

oykib 04-26-2004 11:59 AM

Michelle Pfeifer in "Grease 2"

JeeberD 04-26-2004 12:02 PM

Anthony Hopkins in Hearts in Atlantis. Another brutal adaptation of a good Stephen King novel...

oykib 04-26-2004 12:03 PM

Dola--

During the days of the studio system, almost all the big stars had to pay their dues doing B-class films. Basically, they had to rise above the crud they were in or be good enough to make it seem like it wasn't crud in order to 'graduate' to A-level work.

You can check the entries of almost any of the old time stars to verify it. Leonard Maltin's biography excerpts on them usually start with a listing of crap movies that they did before they had their breakthroughs.

oykib 04-26-2004 12:04 PM

D-mn JeeberD ruining my dola...

MrBug708 04-26-2004 12:04 PM

I think most of Johnny Depp's movies weren't ones I wasn't fond of. Sleepy Hollow comes to mind real quick.

oykib 04-26-2004 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HornedFrog Purple
Yes. "Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation" starring Matthew McConaughey and Renee Zellweger.


Is Matthew McConaughey a good actor?
:eek:

terpkristin 04-26-2004 12:06 PM

Wait a sec, you think Jim Carrey is a good actor?!?!?!?!

Wow. Um. Wow.

No offense intended, I think he's probably one of the least talented people whose had success...

~tk

HornedFrog Purple 04-26-2004 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oykib
Is Matthew McConaughey a good actor?
:eek:


That wasn't the question.

Fritz 04-26-2004 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue
There is the hole Tom Hanks in "Bachelor Party" situation...



i love bachelor party.

3ric 04-26-2004 12:14 PM

"Fast times in Ridgemont High" with Sean Penn and Jennifer Jason Leigh...

(Edit: forgot that Forrest Whitaker and Nicolas Cage was in it too)

gstelmack 04-26-2004 12:14 PM

There's George Clooney in "Return of the Killer Tomatoes", but then I'm partial to the Killer Tomatoes movies.

"Please pass the ketchup"

Calis 04-26-2004 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 3ric
"Fast times in Ridgemont High" with Sean Penn and Jennifer Jason Leigh...


I'm speechless.

Radii 04-26-2004 12:21 PM

Not exactly the question(who went on to have good careers) but I feel the need to continue to point out how horrible this movie is, even with all the names:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0338459/

Antonio Banderas, Ricardo Montalban, Sylvester Stallone, Salma Hayek, Steve Buscemi, Bill Paxton, George Clooney, Elijah "Hey, that's Frodo" Wood

oykib 04-26-2004 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HornedFrog Purple
That wasn't the question.


I was looking at the title of the thread. After re-reading the first post: "You are correct, sir!"

With that in mind:

Julia Roberts -- "Satisfaction"

James Spader -- the star of both "Tuff Turf" and "Gotcha!"

Susan Sarandon -- whose big break was the Brooke shields quasi-kiddie porn vehicle "Pretty Baby"

Gina Gershon -- "Showgirls"

Sharon Stone -- "Irreconcileable Differences"

Eddie Murphy -- "Best Defense"

Christian Slater -- "Gleaming the Cube"

And the one I really hate to list because I hate his flicks so bad that I avoid them like the plague:

Jean-Claude Van Damme -- "No Retreat, No Surrender"

CamEdwards 04-26-2004 12:29 PM

"Gotcha!" was the shit. Loved that movie. Linda Fiorentino and Anthony Edwards were both in that as well.

Maybe this should just be a "dated 80's movies that I really like" thread. Anybody else remember "Cloak and Daggers"?

Samdari 04-26-2004 12:36 PM

As Cam hints at above, Gotcha starred Anthony Edwayds. James Spader was not involved, something I am sure he points out on a regular basis.

oykib 04-26-2004 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamEdwards
"Gotcha!" was the shit. Loved that movie. Linda Fiorentino and Anthony Edwards were both in that as well.

Maybe this should just be a "dated 80's movies that I really like" thread. Anybody else remember "Cloak and Daggers"?


I do-- of course.

"Jack Flack escapes!"

"Jack Flack always escapes..."

My favorite from that era has to be The Dark Crystal. I saw it again as a teenager and it was still disturbing. I have to check that out again...

Back on topic-- something I always do when I watch a moderately old (5 years or so) movie is watch the credits all the way through to see if I can pick out a famous person way down on the list.

Ksyrup 04-26-2004 12:39 PM

I loved Gotcha! I was always a huge Anthony Edwards fan, Ironically, even that wasn't enough to make me watch ER.

He would have made a great Ross on Friends, if he had been about 5 years younger.

oykib 04-26-2004 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdari
As Cam hints at above, Gotcha starred Anthony Edwayds. James Spader was not involved, something I am sure he points out on a regular basis.


Sorry, I got my memory confused. Maybe it's because I have trouble remembering Anthony Edwards with hair. Even my memories of him in Revenge of the Nerds blend with my image of him in ER.

Speaking of Anthony Edwards, has anyone else seen "Mr. North"?

Ksyrup 04-26-2004 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oykib
Back on topic-- something I always do when I watch a moderately old (5 years or so) movie is watch the credits all the way through to see if I can pick out a famous person way down on the list.


Same here. Especially 90's movies, since I lost touch with the "young" crowd at some point around 1994 and now have no clue who's popular until about 5 years after those "in the know" have discovered them.

Glengoyne 04-26-2004 12:47 PM

Did I miss it or was there a Sean Connery and "Highlander 2" mention earlier?

Ksyrup 04-26-2004 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Glengoyne
Did I miss it or was there a Sean Connery and "Highlander 2" mention earlier?

This, as well as the DeNiro mention earlier, I don't think fit what Cam is getting at. I think he's looking for bad movies with someone who thereafter became famous. In the case of Highlander II and Rocky and Bullwinkle, I'm thinking Connery and DeNiro had already made pretty decent careers for themselves by the time those moveis were released.

Glengoyne 04-26-2004 12:53 PM

Ah ok....I didn't actually read his post..I just responded to the thread's title. I guess I should start paying attention to what you guys actually type.

Samdari 04-26-2004 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oykib
Sorry, I got my memory confused. Maybe it's because I have trouble remembering Anthony Edwards with hair. Even my memories of him in Revenge of the Nerds blend with my image of him in ER.


No problem, although if you are looking for bad Anthony Edwards movies, you could do much better than Gotcha. How about:

Anthony Edwards - Delta Heat.

James Spader - Storyville, Mannequin, Less than Zero.

Note that the last two also starred Andrew McCarthy, someone who made a lot of bad movies and went on to have a moderately unsuccessful career.

MikeVic 04-26-2004 01:16 PM

I'm not sure if this falls into what Cam wants... but when I saw The Faculty on TV a couple of weeks ago, I found myself noticing a lot of the faces. Not all of these people are good actors, but I found it weird how there were so many people I knew. :D

Josh Hartnett - a few other movies after this
Elijah Wood - Lord of the Rings
Salma Hayek - a number of movies
Famke Janssen - Jean Grey in X-Men
Usher Raymond - Musician
Robert Patrick - Terminator guy... although that was before this I think
Jon Stewart - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart

Simms 04-26-2004 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue
There is the hole Tom Hanks in "Bachelor Party" situation...


Also featuring semi-gratuitous nudity of the woman who beat the shit out of Chuck Finley. :)

dawgfan 04-26-2004 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terpkristin
Wait a sec, you think Jim Carrey is a good actor?!?!?!?!

Wow. Um. Wow.

No offense intended, I think he's probably one of the least talented people whose had success...

~tk


Have you seen Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind yet? He's quite good...

cuervo72 04-26-2004 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Glengoyne
Did I miss it or was there a Sean Connery and "Highlander 2" mention earlier?


What KSyrup said, but this immediately leaped to my mind too.

cuervo72 04-26-2004 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Simms
Also featuring semi-gratuitous nudity of the woman who beat the shit out of Chuck Finley. :)


There was more of that in The Perils of Gwendoline in the Land of the Yik-Yak. And some in Witchboard too. And in some movie about a guy who had to live in a bubble-type room (with her pressed up against the glass, no less).

Ok, I liked redheads at an early age...

Mustang 04-26-2004 02:53 PM

Ed Harris - Knightriders
Denzell Washington - Carbon Copy

oykib 04-26-2004 03:10 PM

Wasn't Tim Robbins the nerdy scientist in "Howard the Duck"?

Charlize Theron -- the remake of "Mighty Joe Young"

BishopMVP 04-26-2004 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne
Did I miss it or was there a Sean Connery and "Highlander 2" mention earlier?

If we're going this route, how can you mention Connery and forget League of Extraordinary Gentleman?

From watching some USA yesterday, and speaking of seeing people that later go on to have careers, Marc Antony is in The Substitute. Although this is one of the movies I watch when I see it on for no discernible reason, I was shocked when I found out they made not one but two sequels - Back to School and Winner Takes All.

Franklinnoble 04-26-2004 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BishopMVP
If we're going this route, how can you mention Connery and forget League of Extraordinary Gentleman?
....


Hmm... I liked League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. It could have been better, but I didn't think it was that bad.

Celeval 04-26-2004 04:29 PM

Connery, Uma Thurman, and Ralph Fiennes in the Avengers. Boy that movie sucked.

Schedule Junkie 04-26-2004 10:29 PM

Everyone in Tim Burton's "Planet of the Apes."

Truly, one of the worst plotted movie scripts in film history... the Greeks could have learned a thing or two about "deus ex machina" writing from it...

Pumpy Tudors 04-26-2004 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BishopMVP
From watching some USA yesterday, and speaking of seeing people that later go on to have careers, Marc Antony is in The Substitute. Although this is one of the movies I watch when I see it on for no discernible reason, I was shocked when I found out they made not one but two sequels - Back to School and Winner Takes All.


They actually made THREE sequels to it. Even worse, Treat Williams was in all three of the sequels. I like Tom Berenger a lot, but he just didn't bring much unintentional comedy to the original Substitute movie (although Ernie Hudson did). Treat Williams, on the other hand, cranks up the UIC scale bigtime in the sequels! Highly recommended!

JeeberD 04-26-2004 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble
Hmm... I liked League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. It could have been better, but I didn't think it was that bad.


Ugh, I didn't like it at all...

Logan 04-26-2004 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BishopMVP
If we're going this route, how can you mention Connery and forget League of Extraordinary Gentleman?

From watching some USA yesterday, and speaking of seeing people that later go on to have careers, Marc Antony is in The Substitute. Although this is one of the movies I watch when I see it on for no discernible reason, I was shocked when I found out they made not one but two sequels - Back to School and Winner Takes All.


Juan Lacas was a badass.

pennywisesb 04-26-2004 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors
They actually made THREE sequels to it. Even worse, Treat Williams was in all three of the sequels. I like Tom Berenger a lot, but he just didn't bring much unintentional comedy to the original Substitute movie (although Ernie Hudson did). Treat Williams, on the other hand, cranks up the UIC scale bigtime in the sequels! Highly recommended!

treat williams is the king of B motion pictures!

PineTar 04-27-2004 01:00 AM

Sylvester Stallone: Before there was Rocky, there was Death Race 2000

Honolulu_Blue 04-27-2004 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PineTar
Sylvester Stallone: Before there was Rocky, there was Death Race 2000


Death Race 2000 is a classic film. It's all good.

cartman 04-27-2004 04:06 AM

How is that Ishtar hasn't been mentioned yet? Warren Beaty and Dustin Hoffman in one of the biggest flops in history.

Ksyrup 04-27-2004 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman
How is that Ishtar hasn't been mentioned yet? Warren Beaty and Dustin Hoffman in one of the biggest flops in history.


Because it doesn't answer the original question. Cam is looking for bad movies with "stars before they were stars" in them. I think Ishtar was a couple of years removed from The Graduate (or even Tootsie).

Warren Beatty on the other hand...what's that f*ck ever done?

QuikSand 04-27-2004 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PineTar
Sylvester Stallone: Before there was Rocky, there was Death Race 2000


Shame on you.

(Or did you transpose the thread title? We're looking for good actors, and bad movies. Maybe you were confused?)

Fritz 04-27-2004 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oykib
Sorry, I got my memory confused. Maybe it's because I have trouble remembering Anthony Edwards with hair. Even my memories of him in Revenge of the Nerds blend with my image of him in ER.


Go dig up Fast Times. He is one of Spicoli's buds and has long hair.

cartman 04-27-2004 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup
Warren Beatty on the other hand...what's that f*ck ever done?


Annette Benning


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