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sjshaw 05-05-2004 09:02 AM

Free Visual Basic.NET Standard Edition
 
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/mess...hreadid=311010

Draft Dodger 05-05-2004 09:21 AM

I'm probably the only dork more excited for the free training movies than the free software...

...and the movies didn't work for me anyways.

Tasan 05-05-2004 11:58 AM

DD, what problems did you have with the videos? I was able to get them to work, but had to go back to IE and tweak media player some as well.

SplitPersonality1 05-05-2004 12:24 PM

This is awesome.

I was planning on purchasing VB.net in the next few wekks so I will now save about $100. Muchas gracias.

Also, these instructional videos are pretty good.

Draft Dodger, I couldn't get them to work at first either. I upgraded to Windows Media Player 9 and then changed the settings just the way they suggested on the website. The movies now work like a champ.

Thanks again sjshaw.

condors 05-05-2004 12:30 PM

i bought bought this less than 2 months ago :-(

GoldenEagle 05-05-2004 02:31 PM

Is this just Visual Basic?

SplitPersonality1 05-05-2004 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle
Is this just Visual Basic?


Yes. VB.net 2003 to be exact.

hoosierdude 05-05-2004 08:38 PM

Glad for the link. Thanks a lot. I loved the training videos.. That I love a lot!

sterlingice 05-05-2004 08:50 PM

Man, I'd have killed for a NFR copy of Visual Studio .net but I'll be content with a free copy of VB.net. KU's bookstores don't even stock a student edition of Visual Studio and there's no way I'm paying hundreds of bucks that I just can't afford.

SI

Taco 05-05-2004 09:12 PM

I have also read that Job Lot (with stores in CT, MA, and RI) is selling the standard editions of VB .NET and C# with CDs and manuals for $15. It doesn't help me living in NC, but hopefully it will help someone here...

GoldenEagle 05-05-2004 09:15 PM

What is the difference between .NET and a non . NET?

Draft Dodger 05-06-2004 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle
What is the difference between .NET and a non . NET?


short answer: .NET is newer and is a confusing series name instead of "version x". (kind of like Office XP instead of Office 2002).

progression goes something like

Version 5
Version 6
.NET
.NET 2003

MJ4H 06-09-2004 12:00 PM

Just got mine in the mail :)

stevew 06-09-2004 12:06 PM

Sweet. That means mine will be here soon.

GabeRivers 06-09-2004 12:07 PM

For the computer illiterate, such as myself, the name is confusing. I assumed that a program with a name including '.NET', was probably a program designed specifically for internet use. Oh well, I guess I'm too far behind to ever catch up.

Draft Dodger 06-09-2004 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GabeRivers
For the computer illiterate, such as myself, the name is confusing. I assumed that a program with a name including '.NET', was probably a program designed specifically for internet use. Oh well, I guess I'm too far behind to ever catch up.


it is a stupid name (although I'm not sure how many computer illeterates are purchasing programming tools)

the original name for TPF was Football.NET - thank god they changed it

Mr. Wednesday 06-09-2004 12:43 PM

With VB, the difference is that:
  • The new version will produce only managed code that runs against the .NET framework (which I believe is quite a bit more to download than a typical set of VB6 runtimes)
  • The new version has substantial incompatibilities with previous versions and (in the opinion of some people) is different enough that it should be considered a new language -- some people call it Visual Fred to make that point. Some of the changes make sense, others are gratuitous and appear to be imposed by C or Java language snobs.

Mr. Wednesday 06-09-2004 12:46 PM

Dola, the .NET framework is certainly many more things than simply an internet pack, but since many aspects of it were designed to compete with Java (which has most of its buzz from internet applets), it's not a wholly inaccurate name.

hoosierdude 06-09-2004 01:05 PM

I forgot to mention I got mine yesterday in the mail.

SplitPersonality1 06-09-2004 02:15 PM

My wife just called and made my day. Mine came in the mail today.

(sigh) - I'm such a geek.

sterlingice 06-09-2004 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SplitPersonality1
My wife just called and made my day. Mine came in the mail today.

(sigh) - I'm such a geek.


Ooh. I'm heading out to my mailbox at 4ish when our mailman comes. I'm excited, too.

<-- also a computer nerd.

SI

sterlingice 06-09-2004 03:54 PM

Woo! Got mine today. Time to "hello world" ;)

SI

Daimyo 06-09-2004 03:57 PM

I wouldn't say the .NET name is stupid at all. The biggest improvements IMO were for building web apps and web services. You can use it for non network apps, but it really was designed with internet applications in mind.

CentralMassHokie 06-09-2004 04:13 PM

For those of you who didn't get in on the VB.NET deal, you can download the .NET SD from the MS Site for free, and then use SharpDevelop, which is a pretty nifty open-source IDE (www.icsharpcode.net, I think).

I've been tooling around with using C# for the past few days, and I have to say, it's pretty darn nice.

Tekneek 06-09-2004 04:33 PM

I got mine yesterday. :)

I have not done much but install it, because too many things keep distracting me.

Chief Rum 06-09-2004 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CentralMassHokie
For those of you who didn't get in on the VB.NET deal, you can download the .NET SD from the MS Site for free, and then use SharpDevelop, which is a pretty nifty open-source IDE (www.icsharpcode.net, I think).

I've been tooling around with using C# for the past few days, and I have to say, it's pretty darn nice.


Could you provide a link for the VB.NET SD free download? Or a URL with the specific MS page as the target? I hate navigating the labyrinthian MS Web site. It's just incredibly hard to track stuff down there.

CR

Surtt 06-09-2004 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CentralMassHokie
I've been tooling around with using C# for the past few days, and I have to say, it's pretty darn nice.


Don't give in to the dark side.

Dutch 06-09-2004 07:54 PM

I just got mine yesterday. The first program is "Lucky Sevens" and it was a great moment to get it completed. Okay, it was simple, but I was very happy, I already know how to come up with Random Numbers....haha....and my first experiment on my own was rolling 3 6-sided dice and getting 3-18. So far it's rolling a 0-5 instead of 1-6, but I think I know an easy fix (+1) Also, I vaguely remember the formatting of the Basic language, but what happened to the 10, 20, 30, 40 command line structure!!! j/k.

But anyway, it comes with MS Visual Basic .NET 2003, a CD of pre-requisites, 3 CD bundle with MSDN Library (whatever that is) and Windows 2000 SP4 (which I guess is just because I must have told them I had Win2000), and a small training book (I also picked up a book at Books-a-Million to help me out).

Hopefully, as I get better with this, the video's might actually prove helpful. (Most of it was greek at the time).

CentralMassHokie 06-09-2004 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum
Could you provide a link for the VB.NET SD free download? Or a URL with the specific MS page as the target? I hate navigating the labyrinthian MS Web site. It's just incredibly hard to track stuff down there.

CR



This should do it:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Or just google for .net SDK and you should come up with the link.

CentralMassHokie 06-09-2004 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surtt
Don't give in to the dark side.


Issues with C#? I have to say, ever since I got out of project/product management and into database stuff, I've lost touch on the development side a bit. I've got some solid C++ experience, but I never fully grasped MFC. I had a decent little Windows app up and running in a few minutes using C#.

I know it's not groundbreaking (stealing liberally from java, VB, and C++), but it really does seem to do a nice job.

Tasan 06-09-2004 09:41 PM

Got my free vb.net 2003 today! Time to see what 2003 does over 6. I got to go to a "MSDN event" here in houston the other day where they demo'ed Whidbey(I think thats the spelling) which will be 2005. It has some REAL NICE features.

Fouts 06-09-2004 11:06 PM

I have VB.net, but have had a problem with it since I am using XP. Have any of you been able to use VB.net 2003 with XP?

Fouts 06-09-2004 11:11 PM

Nevermind, found my own answer;

¹ Limited functionality. Visual Basic .NET 2003 does not support creating ASP.NET Web applications or ASP.NET XML Web services when using Windows XP Home Edition.

Mr. Wednesday 06-10-2004 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch
Also, I vaguely remember the formatting of the Basic language, but what happened to the 10, 20, 30, 40 command line structure!!!

I think the Java/OO zealots killed it dead in VB.NET. I think it was still possible to code that way (if you really, really, insisted) in VB5/6, but could be mistaken about that.


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