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QuikSand 06-01-2004 10:30 AM

OT - Decryption puzzle
 
Here is a puzzle, which is to some degree inspired by Jim’s recent offering. Rather like his, this puzzle has multiple steps involved. And, rather like his, this puzzle begins with a seemingly incoherent mess of data - which is yours to resolve…

637951887212909
599648104919488606221
646357525333102500
793564912100774
928546777828300401
026100680310561320
101100734202
568776100875540771770
694695693555581421

cuervo72 06-01-2004 10:35 AM

These look like they should be grouped in 3's....at first I thought maybe area codes, but some don't look like area codes.

Radii 06-01-2004 10:44 AM

My first glance got the same thoughts as cuervo, grouped in 3s and a lot of area codes, but then you have 100, and 026 and a few others which appear to clearly not be area codes. Country codes perhaps?

albionmoonlight 06-01-2004 10:44 AM

any significance to the line breaks?

RPI-Fan 06-01-2004 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight
any significance to the line breaks?


I doubt QS will answer this, but anyways, I think there has to be. There are a different # of digits in each row, and QS doesn't tend to include arbitrary line breaks like that in his puzzle.

QuikSand 06-01-2004 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan
...and QS doesn't tend to include arbitrary line breaks like that in his puzzle.


Puzzling by profile. I love it!

VPI97 06-01-2004 10:55 AM

There's nine lines. Whatever occurs is going to end up being mapped to telephone buttons. Book it.


Edit - or a tic-tac-toe grid.

Maple Leafs 06-01-2004 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VPI97
There's nine lines. Whatever occurs is going to end up being mapped to telephone buttons. Book it.

(Wonders which will come first, the obligatory "2/3" joke or the obligatory "Churchill" joke.)

QuikSand 06-01-2004 11:48 AM

Maybe you just made it a dead heat?

AnalBumCover 06-01-2004 11:55 AM

broken into groups of three, for reference:
Code:

837 951 887 212 909
599 648 104 919 488 606 221
646 357 525 333 102 500
793 564 912 100 774
928 546 777 828 300 401
026 100 680 310 561 320
101 100 734 202
568 776 100 875 540 771 770
694 695 693 555 581 421


Celeval 06-01-2004 12:11 PM

Code:

837 951 887 212 909
599 648 104 919 488 606 221
646 357 525 333 102 500
793 564 912 100 774
928 546 777 828 300 401
026 100 680 310 561 320
101 100 734 202
568 776 100 875 540 771 770
694 695 693 555 581 421


Started to track these by area code, but through the first three lines, only six of the 18 have area codes that match (951, 212, 909, 919, 606, 646).

tim86432 06-01-2004 12:14 PM

If you add the three numbers together and tie them to a letter of the alphabet the words are rower, wrestle, police, solar, source, handle, band, station, strong

AnalBumCover 06-01-2004 12:15 PM

310 is an area code here in the Los Angeles area.

henry296 06-01-2004 12:20 PM

The number 100 repeats alot.

Celeval 06-01-2004 12:24 PM

Zip Code prefixes don't work either, but I think Tim's got it.

So we have:
Code:

637 951 887 212 909
599 648 104 919 488 606 221
646 357 525 333 102 500
793 564 912 100 774
928 546 777 828 300 401
026 100 680 310 561 320
101 100 734 202
568 776 100 875 540 771 770
694 695 693 555 581 421
 
POWER
WRESTLE
POLICE
SOLAR
SOURCE
HANDLE
BAND
STATION
STRONG


rkmsuf 06-01-2004 12:26 PM

Remember to drink your Ovaltine?

Coffee Warlord 06-01-2004 12:28 PM

Checked the 5x3 lines for possible zip codes instead of area codes, no matches at all.

Heh. Someone beat me to it.

QuikSand 06-01-2004 12:29 PM

Egad. I just found a typo in the original puzzle - gladly, it didn't seem to impede your progress.

Make that very first digit of the first line a 6 rather than an 8.

My sincerest apologies.

Coffee Warlord 06-01-2004 12:31 PM

So Power instead of Rower. Still works.

QuikSand 06-01-2004 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord
So Power instead of Rower. Still works.


Quite fortunate that the typo still generated a valid word, otherwise that would have made it much harder to stumble across.

Celeval 06-01-2004 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord
So Power instead of Rower. Still works.


Darn. Googling the old list (with rower) came up with one single hit - http://polish.slavic.pitt.edu/other/minimum.pdf

Excerpt: "TEXTBOOK GLOSSARY AND POLISH LEXICAL MINIMUM - This glossary contains the words appearing in the glossaries at lesson-ends of First Year Polish and, in addition, incorporates a "Polish Lexical Minimimum," a list of most important Polish words..."

I really thought we had something there. :D

Coffee Warlord 06-01-2004 12:36 PM

Hoooo yeah.

And back to thinking...aside from Wrestle and Police, there's a definate theme to these words, something along the lines of radio signals, or frequencys, or something like that, perhaps?

Celeval 06-01-2004 12:38 PM

Could be. Also, breaking them up into three word sets, each set has two words that start with the same letter:

POWER
WRESTLE
POLICE

SOLAR
SOURCE
HANDLE

BAND
STATION
STRONG

Also, it seems that those match each of the three possible locations for an 'AAB' type distribution (AAB, ABA, BAA). Not sure if that means anything.

Edit: and not just the first letter, but each of those share the first two letters (PO SO ST).

rkmsuf 06-01-2004 12:43 PM

Solar Power Source = sun

perhaps combining the words somehow?

Coffee Warlord 06-01-2004 12:49 PM

Tried combining em a few different ways, they don't flow together real well though. A few of them turn into known phrases (Solar Power, Police Station), but not all.

rkmsuf 06-01-2004 12:50 PM

Wrestle Band didn't inspire you?

How about Strong Source Handle

Coffee Warlord 06-01-2004 12:51 PM

Wrestle Band did indeed not inspire me. :)

Maple Leafs 06-01-2004 01:12 PM

Perhaps it's another word pyramid? For example, you could group BAND, POLICE and STATION into RADIO.

But somehow that seems too simple.

rkmsuf 06-01-2004 01:15 PM

Wrestle, Strong and Handle = Hold

digamma 06-01-2004 01:24 PM

Solar Power Source = Sun

rkmsuf 06-01-2004 01:25 PM

what are you from the department of redundancy department

henry296 06-01-2004 01:25 PM

Wrestle and Handle could go together.

rkmsuf 06-01-2004 01:26 PM

you're kidding

henry296 06-01-2004 01:27 PM

Somone's handle is their nickname... and wrestler's names are really nicknames.

cuervo72 06-01-2004 01:32 PM

Well, POWER STATION and POLICE are rock groups :) (I know, no help there)

Maple Leafs 06-01-2004 01:32 PM

POWER
WRESTLE
POLICE

... clearly refers to the Big Bossman.

rkmsuf 06-01-2004 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs
POWER
WRESTLE
POLICE

... clearly refers to the Big Bossman.


now that was funny.

QuikSand 06-02-2004 10:28 AM

Just a bump in case someone might want to top this one off.

It's not too simple.

tim86432 06-02-2004 12:26 PM

is this it? Man - Police, handle, power
Arm - Strong, wrestle, band
Power - Station, source, solar

And then Fire - Man, Arm, Power

Suicane75 06-02-2004 12:48 PM

I'd just like to assume that the answer was Big Bossman.

QuikSand 06-02-2004 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tim86432
is this it? Man - Police, handle, power
Arm - Strong, wrestle, band
Power - Station, source, solar

And then Fire - Man, Arm, Power


That'll work. Nicely done.

sterlingice 06-02-2004 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tim86432
is this it? Man - Police, handle, power
Arm - Strong, wrestle, band
Power - Station, source, solar

And then Fire - Man, Arm, Power


Nicely done :D
I can never solve Quik puzzles :(

SI

KWhit 06-02-2004 02:50 PM

Me either.

Good work guys.

ahbrady 06-02-2004 04:21 PM

I can't even solve these puzzles with all of the people on this board helping. I used to think I was a fairly intelligent guy, but these puzzles have proved that wrong. I continue to read them though, I guess I'm a masochist.

rkmsuf 06-03-2004 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicane75
I'd just like to assume that the answer was Big Bossman.


I think it was but it was assumed we'd never get it...now the secret is out...


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