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JFiz 06-28-2004 07:10 AM

Noob injury question...
 
Quick question here.... at what point, do doctors really make a significant difference? My situation is one of my more important players got injured yesterday, and is out for 2 weeks. I know 2 isnt that long, but Id love for him to be back in 1 if at all possible. Is it possible? If I hire like 9 doctors, is there any formula that I can figure in and see if I can get him back in a week? Any help is appreciated!

Thanks

PilotMan 06-28-2004 07:22 AM

Important Injury = 10 doctors on staff

If you look ahead to the next match linup orders and your guy isn't red, then the game thinks he might be available for that match, but it isn't guaranteed.

JFiz 06-28-2004 01:15 PM

Thanks!

Vince 06-28-2004 02:26 PM

Also, the injury healing process depends a TON upon the players age. Anything over probably 28 means that it could take up to or past the injury length currently on there, even with Doctors. A young guy (17-22), however, will probably heal before that even without doctors.

JFiz 06-29-2004 07:09 AM

He is 19, but Im really bummed because even though he is only out 2 weeks, he is one of my only two keepers, and I train keepers! His training will be all screwed up :( So for a two week injury, 19 years old, should I just skip the doctors? Im really low on $$ right now anyway, perhaps Ill just wait it out ...

Masked 06-29-2004 09:16 AM

Hire as many docs as you can afford (3 or 4?) - if you get him to +1 by thursday (3 updates from now). He will get training this week. He should reach bruised (bandaid) before your week 3 friendly/cup match.

Docs aren't really that expensive - the training is more valuable.

Matt2You 06-29-2004 11:28 AM

I had a 20 yo injured in the last league match, +2 also. Had 10 doctors on staff and have since got him to +1. I needed him badly for the next league match, plus... If his form took a hit... GAH!

KevinNU7 06-29-2004 11:31 AM

Get atleast 1 doctor. I keep 3 on staff at all times

One_to7 06-29-2004 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinNU7
I keep 3 on staff at all times

Yeesh. And I support you? ;) :p

FrogMan 06-29-2004 02:16 PM

I keep 2 on at all time, for what it's worth...

FM

One_to7 06-29-2004 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan
I keep 2 on at all time, for what it's worth...

FM

Eh, it's more fun ragging on kevin.

If you're online to watch your matches, why bother keeping them on staff? You can buy them following the match if needed. Of course, that doesn't work so well when you have international friendlies at horrible hours.

saintjo 06-29-2004 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan
I keep 2 on at all time, for what it's worth...

FM


i keep 10 psyo's on staff so that i dont need any doctors ;) actually, i do still get the occasional injury, but i just hire a doctor here or there as needed. none are on the permanent payroll.

FrogMan 06-29-2004 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by One_to7
Eh, it's more fun ragging on kevin.

If you're online to watch your matches, why bother keeping them on staff? You can buy them following the match if needed. Of course, that doesn't work so well when you have international friendlies at horrible hours.


I have found that you don't get the real effect of a doctor until you've paid his salary for a week, so not until the next Saturday. That, and I hated always having to pay the firing fee... Since any team usually always has a player or two on band-aid status, I keep the 2 to help with those nicked up players...

FM
PS: I had started a thread reporting on that "no effect until weekly report" thing... maybe I'll pull it later on...

One_to7 06-29-2004 02:33 PM

[quote=FrogMan]I have found that you don't get the real effect of a doctor until you've paid his salary for a week, so not until the next Saturday. That, and I hated always having to pay the firing fee... QUOTE]
Hmm, haven't heard of that. Would definitely be interested in reading that thread if you have a chance to pull it sometime. :)

I kept 2 or 3 doctors on staff for a while. I was paranoid that as soon as I fired em, I'd have someone get hurt. Then I just wanted to save money and fired them. I've been pretty lucky with injuries so far, although I've had my starting keeper hurt in both offseasons I've been through.

FrogMan 06-29-2004 02:34 PM

Here's the post in the thread. I actually had not started the thread but was able to find it. That was when I decided I would always keep two doctors on staff...
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...882#post145882

FM
edit: to remove an unwanted dola...

One_to7 06-29-2004 04:49 PM

Thanks for that. I'll have to try it next time I get an injury.

(so hopefully next season. :D)

Mr. Wednesday 06-30-2004 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by One_to7
Eh, it's more fun ragging on kevin.

If you're online to watch your matches, why bother keeping them on staff? You can buy them following the match if needed. Of course, that doesn't work so well when you have international friendlies at horrible hours.

My preference is to fire them after the midweek game, once all my injuries have healed. Friendlies at odd hours haven't been an issue for me for the most part, because I play friendly cups which are mostly U.S. teams and I last at least three weeks in the Open Cup.

JFiz 06-30-2004 07:30 AM

I picked up three doctors, time will tell if they help my poor keeper or no :\

One_to7 06-30-2004 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan
Here's the post in the thread. I actually had not started the thread but was able to find it. That was when I decided I would always keep two doctors on staff...
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...882#post145882

Blegh. Well, I just got a +4 injury to my 2nd best trainee. I have 5 doctors on staff right now, so I'm hiring 5 more right now. I won't be able to get a handle on the rate he's improving until the update after training, but I'll keep everyone posted if the rate changes after the econ update or not.

JFiz 07-02-2004 11:23 AM

Ok, here is my next stupid question hehe.

My player now shows the medicaly +1, which means one week out, however in his description it says "bruised, but training"..... what does that mean? Does that mean I can play him? Does that mean even if I dont play him in my leage or cup match this week, he still gets training? I just need clarification please.

bmalek 07-02-2004 11:31 AM

You can play him. Bruised but playing means that he will not play quite as well as normal (less stars), but he will receive training.

Mr. Wednesday 07-02-2004 11:35 AM

Bruised but training means that your player is not yet fit enough to play, but he will receive training for the week if appropriate (e.g. if he played in the league or cup match, or if you're training stamina or set pieces).

You will not be able to play him unless he has reached a bandaid / "bruised but playing" by gametime. If he shows up in black in the match lineup form, then he should be OK for that match, as I believe the healing predictor is conservative (does not take doctors into account).

JFiz 07-03-2004 11:43 AM

Ok, thanks!


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