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jbmagic 01-22-2005 04:08 PM

FOF help please
 
is ths correct for FOF

when playing defense The middle runs by the offense is taken care of by the DTs and the ILBs/MLB. The Left runs by the offense is taken care by LDE and SLB, while the right runs is taken care by the WLB and the RDE.

i am not sure? i want to know, so i know what position on defense i need to upgrade

thanks

General Mike 01-22-2005 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic
is ths correct for FOF

when playing defense The middle runs by the offense is taken care of by the DTs and the ILBs/MLB. The Left runs by the offense is taken care by LDE and SLB, while the right runs is taken care by the WLB and the RDE.

i am not sure? i want to know, so i know what position on defense i need to upgrade

thanks


I'm not really sure. As far as LBs go, your MLB should be the best (or SILB in 3-4), then strongside LB, then weakside LB and then WILB. The SLB should be better than the WLB, because the WLB comes off the field in nickel coverage.

cthomer5000 01-22-2005 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike
I'm not really sure. As far as LBs go, your MLB should be the best (or SILB in 3-4), then strongside LB, then weakside LB and then WILB. The SLB should be better than the WLB, because the WLB comes off the field in nickel coverage.


Just an FYI. The SILB comes off the field in dime formations when playing a 3-4. So I'm not so certain that you don't actually want your WILB to be your best ILB in a 3-4 defense. Or at least your best guy in coverage.

AlexB 01-22-2005 05:16 PM

I would have thought LDE will be responsible for offense's runs to right, and RDE for the offense's runs to the left: so RDE will be up against LT and LDE against RT.

General Mike 01-22-2005 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000
Just an FYI. The SILB comes off the field in dime formations when playing a 3-4. So I'm not so certain that you don't actually want your WILB to be your best ILB in a 3-4 defense. Or at least your best guy in coverage.


Ah, I didn't know that. Actually wouldn't a 3-4 dime, still have both ILBs on the field?

sovereignstar 01-22-2005 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts
I would have thought LDE will be responsible for offense's runs to right, and RDE for the offense's runs to the left: so RDE will be up against LT and LDE against RT.


You are correct.

Here's my little explanation I made yesterday. I'm sure there's plenty of guys that didn't know this.

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...57&postcount=2

sovereignstar 01-22-2005 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000
Just an FYI. The SILB comes off the field in dime formations when playing a 3-4. So I'm not so certain that you don't actually want your WILB to be your best ILB in a 3-4 defense. Or at least your best guy in coverage.


I've been playing my best ILB as the WILB since I've implemented the 3-4, so I agree with this. I simply want him on the field more.

jbmagic 01-22-2005 05:27 PM

is this correct than

if playing a 4-3 defense

if you give up rushing yards to the left, than RDE and which LB is responsible?

if you give up rushing yards to the right, than LDE and which LB is responsible?

if you give up rushing yards to the middle, than DTs and MLB responsible?

thanks

sovereignstar 01-22-2005 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic
is this correct than

if playing a 4-3 defense

if you give up rushing yards to the left, than RDE and which LB is responsible?

if you give up rushing yards to the right, than LDE and which LB is responsible?

if you give up rushing yards to the middle, than DTs and MLB responsible?

thanks


I went over part of that yesterday with you. I guess you'd like more proof.

SLBs and WLBs don't take a "set" side of the field. The SLB plays on the strong side and WLB takes the weak side. There's no left or right. The strong side and weak side can change with each and every play.

Are we straight?

jbmagic 01-22-2005 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar
I went over part of that yesterday with you. I guess you'd like more proof.

SLBs and WLBs don't take a "set" side of the field. The SLB plays on the strong side and WLB takes the weak side. There's no left or right. The strong side and weak side can change with each and every play.

Are we straight?



thanks...

WLB comes out on nickle if playing 4/3
MLB and DTs is responsible for middle runs.

i saw your post over there on strategy forum, but i reply back :)

yes i am straight now...thanks so much... thanks for the explanation

i only ask because i wanted to know who i blame when i am weak against rushing yards going left, middle or right. so i can upgrade.

with SLB and WLB not playing the same side always this will be hard to know who to upgrade

this game is great

sovereignstar 01-22-2005 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic
with SLB and WLB not playing the same side always this will be hard to know who to upgrade


Well, since Jim implemented that extra information in the game logs, technically you could go through the game logs and see how the strong side and the weak side faired. But this would be a decent amount of work that some would probably like to avoid.

Code:

Offense: Pro Formation, Normal, Strength = Left.
  Defense: 43 Alignment, Man-to-Man (Bump & Run), Run - Normal.
  2-04-FAR16 (13:12)  VAN 38 Ho ran around the left tackle for 16 yards and a touchdown.
  Key block delivered by VAN 52 Frey.
  Extra point by VAN 9 Lally was good.


cthomer5000 01-22-2005 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike
Ah, I didn't know that. Actually wouldn't a 3-4 dime, still have both ILBs on the field?


No.

WLB comes off in the nickel (3-3-5)
WLB and SILB come off in the dime (3-2-6)


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