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maximus 01-24-2005 10:54 PM

Outstanding rookie RB without a 100 yd game(fof2004 related)
 
Just a note: (I am in my first season of my career. I started out with a fantasy draft)

Man, I am not sure what the heck I am doing wrong here. I picked this guy thinking he would set the NFL on fire but he has yet to get a 100 yard game. At the moment he has rushed for 780 yards in 12 games. His avg is 3.80 and he has 6 TDs.

I have a semi decent OL which of course may be part of the problem but still, my RB should have had a 100 yard game...at least.

What could I be doing wrong?


Ragone 01-24-2005 10:56 PM

all that talent.. and bad stats.. A younger eddie george? :)

maximus 01-24-2005 10:59 PM

One problem he does have is fumbles. He's had 4 fumbles and lost them all. :eek:

Draft Dodger 01-24-2005 10:59 PM

OL is the key

Pyser 01-24-2005 11:00 PM

ive had bad luck with stud RBs as well. i cant explain it. ill nab a guy rated 86/90, and he just wont produce at all.

i remember quik had this problem in one of his dynasties, and got so fed up he moved the guy to wr.

maybe its just a rb phenomenon?

maximus 01-24-2005 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger
OL is the key



Yea, I agree. I have 4 games left this season. I'll focus on the O-line in the draft.

One thing that I have going for me is that I am the youngest team in the league with a 23.6 yr average. Most of my guys have high future potential but low current ratings.

jbmagic 01-24-2005 11:10 PM

you need a great Offense Line, to help your RB back out


if you have a bad offense line, it dont matter how good your RB is, just like in real life


and are you doing your own gameplan? are you picking the side to run vs your Opponent weak side and picking the side to run on the side you have the better run block on your O-line?

maximus 01-24-2005 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic
and are you doing your own gameplan? are you picking the side to run vs your Opponent weak side and picking the side to run on the side you have the better run block on your O-line?



Not yet. I call my own plays most of the time (except on defense).

jbmagic 01-24-2005 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximus
Not yet. I call my own plays most of the time (except on defense).



the key is to run on the defense weak side..

scout your opponent

maximus 01-24-2005 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic
the key is to run on the defense weak side..

scout your opponent



lol, yea I know that. :) Thanks.




Maybe it's just a weird league. Cincinnati is 11-1 right now. :D

jbmagic 01-24-2005 11:26 PM

could just be a one year slump

it happens


but seriously try to do your own gameplans for offense and defense...

its better than clicking on recommend button

maximus 01-24-2005 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic
could just be a one year slump

it happens


but seriously try to do your own gameplans for offense and defense...

its better than clicking on recommend button


Yea, I am going to have to do something. :) I have some real good talent but sooner or later these guys are going to want to leave. :(

yabanci 01-24-2005 11:52 PM

I don't see anything unusual at all. If you're focusing on 100 yard games, the main problem is he's only averaging 17 carries per game.

maximus 01-24-2005 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yabanci
I don't see anything unusual at all. If you're focusing on 100 yard games, the main problem is he's only averaging 17 carries per game.



I'm not sure what his CPG are but I know that he was carrying around 20-28 times per game for the first 8 games. Then in the last four games I started using another back so that I can use the clock a bit more. Even though my w/l record is bad, I am not losing my games by blow-outs. So I thought about clock management and split time with two RBs.

sabotai 01-24-2005 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximus
Maybe it's just a weird league. Cincinnati is 11-1 right now. :D


Well now that's clearly a bug. Someone should email Jim. :)

MrBug708 01-25-2005 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximus
Yea, I agree. I have 4 games left this season. I'll focus on the O-line in the draft.

One thing that I have going for me is that I am the youngest team in the league with a 23.6 yr average. Most of my guys have high future potential but low current ratings.


In 5 years you wont be able to afford your team

Vinatieri for Prez 01-25-2005 02:50 AM

1)Scout your opponents weakness in the line; run mostly behind your best run blockers; and

2) I bet you the biggest reason is low COHESION. Especially, if your RB is a rookie and the OL is young. Cohesion is a huge factor in my opinion. A few more years together, and things will take off.

Sharpieman 01-25-2005 02:59 AM

Trade this loser, then go out on the free agent market and get some RB with medicore stats and a very high rating in hole recognition-its the only stat that matters for RBs.

Darkiller 01-25-2005 03:24 AM

you'll have to tell us if his stats get better in his sophomore season but talent-wise, what a pick in the mid-2nd round ! congrats.
That RB would have been a top 3 pick in any IHOF Draft...

Cap Ologist 01-25-2005 06:27 AM

He's too small. He can't handle the pounding.




Someone had to say it.

Danny 01-25-2005 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus
I'm not sure what his CPG are


They are exactly what Yabanci said, around 17 a game. 780 / 3.8 / 12

oykib 01-25-2005 06:53 AM

Actually, I either have to somewhat disagree with or expand upon what someone posted above.

You can't just run to the areas at which your opponent has weak defenders. Neither can you run behind just your strongest blockers. You have to mix it up. That is both regarding which areas you run and the run/pass mix.

Sim a few games and see how your running back does. Then, check the game log to see how the computer is calling the game differently than you.

Havok 01-25-2005 07:21 AM

I'll repeat whats already been said....

O-line O-line O-line and more O-Line :)

I just ran a RB for a personal best of 2,200 yards and 5.44 yards a carry and he wasn't nearly the runner that your guy is. But my O-line was just brutal. All lead by a guard with 96 blocking, a center with 93 blocking and my other guard had 78 blocking. Smash-mouth all night long :) :)

Havok 01-25-2005 07:23 AM

dola!!

and my O-line's cohesion(sp?) was in the 90's. That always helps also :)

maximus 01-25-2005 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharpieman
Trade this loser, then go out on the free agent market and get some RB with medicore stats and a very high rating in hole recognition-its the only stat that matters for RBs.



I knew that was going to be an issue. My thinking was that I would be able to pick up some young talented players via the draft and even thought I would lose some of them in a few seasons I could scout the ones I want to keep and build around them.


Quote:

Darkiller you'll have to tell us if his stats get better in his sophomore season but talent-wise, what a pick in the mid-2nd round ! congrats.
That RB would have been a top 3 pick in any IHOF Draft...
I would have picked him (James Millsaps) up in the first round but I picked up a very talented QB in the that spot. I'll post his ratings screen soon. :)

Ramzavail 01-25-2005 10:13 AM

It might be because of the fact that he came from a super weak Staten Island college, Wagner.

MizzouRah 01-25-2005 11:25 AM

I agree in the OL theory. I just had a freshman RB run for over 1800 yards in TCY, but he had a tackle that led the league in key run blocks.


Todd

jbmagic 01-25-2005 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havok
I'll repeat whats already been said....

O-line O-line O-line and more O-Line :)

I just ran a RB for a personal best of 2,200 yards and 5.44 yards a carry and he wasn't nearly the runner that your guy is. But my O-line was just brutal. All lead by a guard with 96 blocking, a center with 93 blocking and my other guard had 78 blocking. Smash-mouth all night long :) :)



did you run mainly between left and right guard/center?

for your RT and LT , was they good at pass block or run block?

maximus 01-25-2005 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkiller
you'll have to tell us if his stats get better in his sophomore season but talent-wise, what a pick in the mid-2nd round ! congrats.
That RB would have been a top 3 pick in any IHOF Draft...



Here's that QB I was talking about. You might be impressed witrh this Darkiller. :) This guy was my first pick in the draft.


Pyser 01-25-2005 01:00 PM

single player is so broken :)

jbmagic 01-25-2005 01:00 PM

nice

what the Qb current and potential rating?

maximus 01-25-2005 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic
nice

what the Qb current and potential rating?


they are a few posts ahead of this one. :) We posted at the same time basically. :D

jbmagic 01-25-2005 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximus
they are a few posts ahead of this one. :) We posted at the same time basically. :D


i must be blind i see the Qb Chart above, but where it shows his overall current rating and Overal Potential rating at? :)

Darkiller 01-25-2005 02:18 PM

indeed, that's impresive ;-)
great combo in rounds 1 & 2 ...

Havok 01-25-2005 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic
did you run mainly between left and right guard/center?

for your RT and LT , was they good at pass block or run block?



yean, i ran a majority of my runs down the middle, but my RB was also pretty quick to the outside (like 60's i think) and my tackles were decent run blockers (both were in the 50's i believe) so i still ran a decent amount to the outside.

It was a few seasons ago so its hard to remember exactly what everyone was. I always play FOF with a smashmouth kinda team. Mainly because i find it to easy to get a great QB and win all the time. So i limit myself to only average QB's with low contracts, then just crank up my run blocking and defense. I find it a little more challenging.

Of course i did go 15-1 in my last season and win the superbowl :)

Havok 01-25-2005 04:02 PM

'Dola'

gotta love the sense rush and scramble frequency on Souza, not gonna need a great pass blocking O-line to keep him safe.


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