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Ragone 01-26-2005 01:57 AM

Mattjones4wr?
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=1975310

:)

cthomer5000 01-26-2005 05:47 AM

1. Great thread title. :)

2. This will be interesting. I always love to root for the position-chaning QBs, so I hope it works out.

Ben E Lou 01-26-2005 08:04 AM

With his size and speed, he'll be a *huge* factor at WR if he's got the hands.

sachmo71 01-26-2005 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog
With his size and speed, he'll be a *huge* factor at WR if he's got the hands.



Like Crouch?

Ben E Lou 01-26-2005 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sachmo71
Like Crouch?

Isn't he like a half a foot shorter than Jones? Further, I'm not sure he's any faster than Jones.

Breeze 01-26-2005 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog
Isn't he like a half a foot shorter than Jones? Further, I'm not sure he's any faster than Jones.



Plus Crouch is about 45 lbs lighter.

I'd give Jones a shot if I were a GM.

sachmo71 01-26-2005 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Breeze
Plus Crouch is about 45 lbs lighter.

I'd give Jones a shot if I were a GM.


I don't trust white QB-turned-whatevers in the NFL.

Breeze 01-26-2005 08:26 AM

Have there been many? ;)

albionmoonlight 01-26-2005 08:28 AM

TE would be interesting. He's certainly tough enough. I've seen that guy pop right up from thoes hits that make everyone in the stadium involuntarially go "OHHHH"

Poli 01-26-2005 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Breeze
Have there been many? ;)


Crouch comes to mind. :) Frost, the other Nebraska QB, was moved to safety.

Bellisari from Ohio State I believe was tried out at safety as well, but I don't think he made it for the Rams.

DanGarion 01-26-2005 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sachmo71
I don't trust white QB-turned-whatevers in the NFL.

Drew Bennett?

Huckleberry 01-26-2005 09:20 AM

His size will be his biggest asset. He's slippery, but I don't think he's as fast as most believe.

Nice to see that the guy Gruden put in charge of answering any question Jones might have played at Texas. :D

VPI97 01-26-2005 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Breeze
Have there been many? ;)

It's not exactly the same thing (senior starting college QB to NFL DB), but VT has had a couple of guys who were switched from QB to safety late in their college careers that have found homes in the pros...mostly for special teams, but both Kevin McCadam (Falcons) and Nick Sorenson (Rams) have played some in the secondary as well.

sachmo71 01-26-2005 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dangarion
Drew Bennett?


If that's true, then there is one.

Still don't trust 'em, though. They tend to flake. I think it's because they can't handle not being "the leader".

Balldog 01-26-2005 09:46 AM

Steve Bellisari got drafted and played a little Safety for the Rams. He was better suited for Safety in college than he was for Quarterback anyway.

FBPro 01-26-2005 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dangarion
Drew Bennett?

I'd take another Drew Bennett, you could sure do worse at wideout.

Bearcat729 01-26-2005 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Breeze
Have there been many? ;)



Yeah I didn't notice the comment about white QB turned whatever. Never mind

TazFTW 01-26-2005 11:56 AM

They're white???

primelord 01-26-2005 12:49 PM

Crouch's issues weren't because he physically couldn't play the position. He was convinced he was a QB and he wasn't willing to play anything else. He probably would have done fairly well if he would have been willing to stick with it at wideout.

TazFTW 01-26-2005 11:57 PM

Here's what the Great Blue North guys have said about Jones in practice.

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In a week of interesting stories, one of the most intriguing has been the shift of former Arkansas QB Matt Jones to WR. The 6-6, 242-pound Jones lacks the twitch speed of the other receivers in camp, otherwise, though, he has hardly looked out of place. Indeed, today, Jones turned in not one, but two hilite reel type catches. On one he made a spectacular one-handed grab of a pass over his head; the other was a long TD reception in the end zone. Jones has been especially solid this week beating press coverage where he has been able to use his size to keep CBs away from the ball.

DanGarion 01-27-2005 12:19 AM

John Lynch!

ahbrady 01-27-2005 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sachmo71
If that's true, then there is one.

Still don't trust 'em, though. They tend to flake. I think it's because they can't handle not being "the leader".


That wouldn't be a problem with Jones. I'm pretty sure he would prefer not to be "the leader".

Blade6119 01-27-2005 10:19 PM

What about the pitt WR from indiana??? That guy is a huge star for them now, and he was the QB for idiana

primelord 01-27-2005 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119
What about the pitt WR from indiana??? That guy is a huge star for them now, and he was the QB for idiana


I am pretty certain the discussion was centered around white college QBs that made the switch to something else.

primelord 01-27-2005 10:41 PM

Dola,

And it is a bad idea to mention Randel El in thos thread. We run the very high risk of Kodos seeing this and blabbing on for days about how Crouch stole the heisman from him. :)

sachmo71 01-28-2005 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119
What about the pitt WR from indiana??? That guy is a huge star for them now, and he was the QB for idiana



Randal El is a huge star?

INDalltheway 01-28-2005 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sachmo71
Randal El is a huge star?

Yeah, he's a big star, and he likes caviar before he performs every night.

Country music is teh shit. :D

Ben E Lou 03-01-2005 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Breeze
OK at 6' 6" 240+ lbs and a 4.4 40...Now I know I'll take a chance on this guy. Last I heard his workouts have likely moved him into the 3rd round.

He'll be a great value in Round 3.

Breeze 03-01-2005 07:04 AM

OK at 6' 6" 240+ lbs and a 4.4 40...Now I know I'll take a chance on this guy. Last I heard his workouts have likely moved him into the 3rd round.

Huckleberry 03-01-2005 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huckleberry
His size will be his biggest asset. He's slippery, but I don't think he's as fast as most believe.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Blue North
The 6-6, 242-pound Jones lacks the twitch speed of the other receivers in camp, otherwise, though, he has hardly looked out of place.


Man, I was wrong on the 40 time. But I still don't think he's as fast on the field as that 40 time represents. Dak Pearson of Texas walked him down last year without much problem. Pearson is fast, but he's not 4.2 fast.

Either way, Jones is definitely a very nice prospect.

QuikSand 03-01-2005 08:51 AM

If Jones really is tight end big and running a legit 4.4... he won't be there for anyone in round three. He'll be one of those guys with a big up arrow by his name come draft day, and he'll get picked in the middle of round two or earlier, even if he has no position.

Tigercat 03-01-2005 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry
Man, I was wrong on the 40 time. But I still don't think he's as fast on the field as that 40 time represents. Dak Pearson of Texas walked him down last year without much problem. Pearson is fast, but he's not 4.2 fast.

Either way, Jones is definitely a very nice prospect.


I would have agreed on 40 time(was surprised to see the 4.4 times) but i disagree with his field speed. First, his field speed is deceptive at first glance, hes a long strider and looks like hes going much slower than he is. As far as being caught from behind, he has a patient style at times, because he does make some stop and go moves as a runner. He does need to learn to hit the jets a little more with the ball in his hands when he has the opporitunity. That being said, I have seen him burn too many speedsters in the SEC to agree with him not having high end field speed. When he turns the burners on, he can outrun CBs that have very favorable angles on him. Didn't he once burn Texas for a 80 yard TD?

Ben E Lou 03-01-2005 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat
First, his field speed is deceptive at first glance, hes a long strider and looks like hes going much slower than he is. As far as being caught from behind, he has a patient style at times, because he does make some stop and go moves as a runner. He does need to learn to hit the jets a little more with the ball in his hands when he has the opporitunity. That being said, I have seen him burn too many speedsters in the SEC to agree with him not having high end field speed. When he turns the burners on, he can outrun CBs that have very favorable angles on him. Didn't he once burn Texas for a 80 yard TD?

Bingo. This kid outran defenders in the SEC, even against Auburn, Florida and Georgia--teams known for having some pretty serious team speed.

MJ4H 03-01-2005 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry
Man, I was wrong on the 40 time. But I still don't think he's as fast on the field as that 40 time represents. Dak Pearson of Texas walked him down last year without much problem. Pearson is fast, but he's not 4.2 fast.

Either way, Jones is definitely a very nice prospect.


He was injured that week.

Breeze 03-01-2005 09:21 AM

Man this guy could cause some serious match up problems, especially if he goes to a team that likes to throw to backs - who's the safety going to cover - the back or Jones?


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