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JeeberD 03-25-2005 07:20 AM

70-million-year-old T-rex yields soft tissue
 
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/

Scientists recover T. rex soft tissue
70-million-year-old fossil yields preserved blood vessels


WASHINGTON - A 70-million-year-old Tyrannosaurus rex fossil dug out of a hunk of sandstone has yielded soft tissue, including blood vessels and perhaps even whole cells, U.S. researchers reported on Thursday.

Paleontologists forced to break the creature's massive thighbone to get it on a helicopter found not a solid piece of fossilized bone, but instead something looking a bit less like a rock.

When they got it into a lab and chemically removed the hard minerals, they found what looked like blood vessels, bone cells and perhaps even blood cells.

"They are transparent, they are flexible," said Mary Higby Schweitzer of North Carolina State University and Montana State University, who conducted the study.

She said the vessels were flexible and in some cases their contents could be squeezed out.

"The microstructures that look like cells are preserved in every way," added Schweitzer, whose findings were published in the journal Science.

"Preservation of this extent, where you still have this flexibility and transparency, has never been seen in a dinosaur before." Feathers, hair and fossilized egg contents yes, but not truly soft tissue.

Studying the soft tissues may help answer many questions about dinosaurs. Were they cold-blooded like reptiles, warm-blooded like mammals, or somewhere in-between? How are they related to living animals?

"If we can isolate certain proteins, then perhaps we can address the issue of the physiology of the dinosaur," Schweitzer said.

Of course, the big question is whether it will be possible to see dinosaur DNA. "We don't know yet. We are doing a lot in the lab now that looks promising," Schweitzer said.

To make sure she was seeing what she thought she was seeing, Schweitzer, a biologist by training, compared the Tyrannosaur samples with bone taken from a dead ostrich. She chose an ostrich because birds are thought to be the closest living relatives of dinosaurs and ostriches are big birds.

Both the dinosaur and ostrich blood vessels contained small, reddish brown dots that could be the nuclei of the endothelial cells that line blood vessels.

Taking the minerals out of both ostrich bone and the Tyrannosaur bone — a simple experiment that can be duplicated by anyone using a chicken bone, for example, and vinegar — yielded flexible fibers. Microscopic examination showed what look like bone cells called osteocytes in both.

The finding certainly shows fossilization does not proceed as science had assumed, Schweitzer said. Since the discovery, she has found similar samples of soft tissue in two other Tyrannosaur fossils and a hadrosaur.

The fossil was dug up out of Montana's Hell Creek Formation, a rich source of fossils.

Paleontologist Jack Horner said it was encased in 1,000 cubic yards (metres) of sandstone. "It's a fantastic specimen," he told the briefing.

"The specimen was very far away from road, (so) everything had to be done with a helicopter." The field team used standard procedure as they excavated the bones, wrapping them in plaster jackets before transporting them..

This particular dinosaur fossil was too big to lift and they reluctantly cracked a thighbone.

Usually paleontologists put preservatives on fossils right away, but Schweitzer has been trying to find soft tissue in dinosaur fossils, so this one was left alone.

Horner said he hoped museums around the world would start cracking open bones and looking for soft tissue in their fossils.

"Dinosaurs are relatively rare and we certainly think of Tyrannosaurus rex as being really rare — although it really isn't — so people tend not to want to cut holes into the bone or cut them in half," he said.

"But to study the cellular and molecular structures of these things you have to do that." The "good stuff," he said, is on the inside.



Tissue fragments from a Tyrannosaurus rex femur are shown at left, when it is flexible and resilient and when stretched (arrow) returns to its original shape. The middle photo shows the bone after it is air dried. The photo at right shows regions of bone showing fibrous character, not normally seen in fossil bone.

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Coolest. Thing. Ever! :eek:

tanglewood 03-25-2005 07:42 AM

Wow.




So, Jurassic park anyone? ;) (Sorry, had to be the first.)

Ksyrup 03-25-2005 07:46 AM

No kidding. Perhaps after the terrorists get through with their evil plan to rob us of our cultural icons by kidnapping movie stars, this will be their next plan - sick regenerated dinosaurs on us.

tanglewood 03-25-2005 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup
No kidding. Perhaps after the terrorists get through with their evil plan to rob us of our cultural icons by kidnapping movie stars, this will be their next plan - sick regenerated dinosaurs on us.


hxxp://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/suspects/59123

We are playing right into their hands!

Flasch186 03-25-2005 08:04 AM

I see this quote coming someday:

"Well at the time it seemed like a agood idea."

Bubba Wheels 03-25-2005 08:09 AM

Does this mean that, someday soon, we have to start watching out for kooky neighbors keeping these as 'exotic pets' like they do cougars and such today?

Radii 03-25-2005 08:46 AM

Very very cool.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER 03-25-2005 08:47 AM

Can't believe soft tissue would last 70 million years.

rkmsuf 03-25-2005 08:51 AM

How long before something like this ends up in someone's chili?

CHEMICAL SOLDIER 03-25-2005 08:55 AM

In pecisely 5...4...3..2....

WSUCougar 03-25-2005 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf
How long before something like this ends up in someone's chili?

T-Rex-Mex?

Ksyrup 03-25-2005 08:59 AM

LOL

rkmsuf 03-25-2005 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar
T-Rex-Mex?


Har!

jamesUMD 03-25-2005 09:01 AM

Quote:

Can't believe soft tissue would last 70 million years.

ZipLock bag (with the yellow and blue makes green seal of course)

Ksyrup 03-25-2005 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf
Har!


Can it until September 19th, matey.

rkmsuf 03-25-2005 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup
Can it until September 19th, matey.


blimey

Kodos 03-25-2005 11:01 AM

One step closer to being eaten by an actual T. Rex. YESSSS!!!!

Crapshoot 03-25-2005 11:24 AM

Wait a minute- I thought that the Earth was only 6,000 years old.. :D

Sun Tzu 03-25-2005 11:28 AM


DaddyTorgo 03-25-2005 11:48 AM

DENVER...THE LAST DINOSAUR...HE'S MY FRIEND...AND A WHOLE LOT MORE!


Saw this article last night and was like "WHOA!!" Awesome news! Go science!

Franklinnoble 03-25-2005 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CHEMICAL SOLDIER
Can't believe soft tissue would last 70 million years.



Me either. I smell bullshit.

Kodos 03-25-2005 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble
Me either. I smell bullshit.


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The finding certainly shows fossilization does not proceed as science had assumed, Schweitzer said. Since the discovery, she has found similar samples of soft tissue in two other Tyrannosaur fossils and a hadrosaur.

Seems like something that would be easy enough for another scientist to verify independently. I strongly suspect no bullshit. :)

Glengoyne 03-25-2005 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos
Seems like something that would be easy enough for another scientist to verify independently. I strongly suspect no bullshit. :)


I concur with the Alien mind on this one.

sterlingice 03-25-2005 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup
No kidding. Perhaps after the terrorists get through with their evil plan to rob us of our cultural icons by kidnapping movie stars, this will be their next plan - sick regenerated dinosaurs on us.


But if we don't go ahead with our American plans of cloning dinosaurs and making an amusement park, then the terrorists have won.

SI

JediKooter 03-25-2005 04:57 PM

Now all we need is to get Bill Lambier to put on the Sleestack costume.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER 03-25-2005 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter
Now all we need is to get Bill Lambier to put on the Sleestack costume.

I personally liked the 1990's Land of The Lost remake.


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