Broncos d-line = Browns d-line of last year?
 

Earlier, the Broncos traded for Gerard Warren. They just recently signed Courtney Brown and now this

From FoxSports,

There have been people saying, for years, "The Broncos turn any stiff into a good RB - they should just trade these guys after they have a good year or two." Maybe the Broncos are reading their own clippings.

As for whether you would want the whole Browns' defensive line, I guess that's up for grabs.

Did I miss Cleveland apparently having such a dominant D-Line that other teams couldn't wait to raid it???

I really like Shanahan, but this is just nuts.

Bad trade for both teams. The Browns get a RB that will never produce anything outside of Denver, and the Broncos get a mediore DL who is injured to begin with.

This makes perfect sense. The Browns are converting from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and feel that the guys they had didn't fit into a 3-4 so they're dumping them.

The Broncos are converting from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and feel that the guys they had didn't fit into a 3-4 so they're picking up guys that will fit from a team that didn't need them anymore.

Perfect sense. Yup.

Does anybody find it strange that all of a sudden half the league is switching to a 3-4, but nobody has players that fit the scheme and will end up with the Raiders D from last year?

Tatum Bell pretty much locked the job up at the end of last year. Mike Anderson is coming back and the Broncos have a couple of guys they really like at the fullback spot. Not really reading the clippings there, they just have too many guys for too few spots.

As for Denver snagging the entire Browns D-Line. . . that scares the hell out of me. The only good thing is that none of these guys are a huge cap concern if they suck. Warren is in the final year of his deal. Brown signed an incentive laden contract and Ekuban doesn't have the richest deal in the world either.

I like this trade for the Browns. While Reuben will never match what he did last year in Denver, he's a good "intangibles" guy. He'll do anything asked of him, is a solid blocker, is a very good special teams performer and can run the ball in spot duty. I think Browns will be happy with the guy they are getting.

Ekuban?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmmm, now this just clouds up my fantasy football backfield. Hope Bell locks the spot up tight in training camp so Anderson doesn't get any delusions of stardom. I could really use Bell to be a 1,200 yard, 8 TD back.

I don't disagree... but has there been a time in the last, say, eight years when this wasn't really the case for Denver? They have had such good fortune (or good planning/scouting) with running backs, it seems like anyone is basically expendable.

I'm not being critical... I don't happen to think that Droughns is any more exciting than Bell or Griffith or anyone else. Just seems like they are following through, and spinning off guys who had a good little run in their system.

Now if the Browns could just give away the rest of their team they might be competitive this year

Brown was a very good pickup for Denver. I would have liked to have seen Cleveland resign him - he was cut because of a $2.5m bonus due, and they were in negotiations even afterwards. His problem isn't talent, just injuries... but he's played well when he has played, and he was a great character guy. I wish him well.

I don't get why the Browns dont want Suggs or Green? Well Green I can maybe understand. But Droughns?

Yep, no doubt about it QS. If you are a running back with the Broncos, the worst thing you can do is ask for a huge pay raise. :)

They shipped Portis last year and Gary a year or so before that. They were really close to shipping Anderson out as well, but he accepted his role and stayed.

Droughns wanted a big pay raise and demanded a trade at the start of the off season. Big mistake on his part. I doubt he knew how horrible the market would be for RB's this offseason when he initially made his demand. He won't get anymore of a shot to start in Cleveland than he did here.

As for the Browns thing, even in this era of FA, has anyone ever seen 3 defensive lineman go from one team to another in the same off season? Once thing that may not be mentioned in the national papers is that Denver picked up the DL coach of the Browns this offseason. I'm sure the familiarity with the guys is one of the reasons they are doing it.

That said, Cleveland wasn't exactly the '75 Steelers. I'm not sure how any of these guys are going to be better than what we had here last year.

This is the deal pending the players passing their physicals.

Denver gets DE Ebenezer Ekuban and DT Michael Myers (yes another Browns D-lineman), Browns get RB Reuben Droughns.

Sweet. The Rockies used to have Mike Myers pitch in the bullpen. Everytime the guy makes a tackle, I want the Halloween music.

Our overtaking of the entire Browns line is almost complete. From the coach to the players, we've got em all. They are ALL ours.

Oh dear God it's true. They really are all ours. . .

Actually, with Ekuban and Myers it looks like they're trying to become the old Cowboys d-line as well...