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Turns Out She's A Real-Life Runaway Bride
So, what is the media going to do with this story now that they don't have a murder mystery to sensationalize?
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And what is up with the New Mexico police??? She tells 'em a fake kidnapping story, and no criminal charges??? Sheesh.
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Can the collective tax base of America send her a bill for the investigation and search?
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I'd like a side of crazy with my fiance please
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She's definitely got crazy eyes.
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Definitely nutso, but in this instance, the media are as much to blame as she is. I am not sure why this story got so out of control and was CNN's top story for like 4 days. Despite the fact that my dad works for CNN, I find their news coverage to be pretty pathetic. Not Fox News pathetic, but it's only a small step above.
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They were already gearing up to hang her (now ex- I guess) fiance. He had the audacity to set "terms" for a police polygraph. The buzz was already starting " what does he have to hide?" Shoot, if your girlfriend, spouse, or significant other dissapears, the first thing you need to do is hire a criminal lawyer. If not, the police will have you in jail and crucified in the press so fast it'll make your head spin. The justice system today isn't about finding "truth" but closing cases, and they take the easiest path to do that. The SO is always the easiest path. |
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That was my thought, too. |
Hmmmm....she held onto the kidnap story for four hours and "cracked" under law enforcement interrogation. The FBI came in to question her to try to identify the kidnappers, even.
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re: the media coverage -- I can't remember who it was I heard say this on Thursday (I think it was Boortz, but might have been Hannity or Savage) but it was a very accurate observation: It's a slow week for news, with very little of interest coming out of Washington, so for the time being, this story gets the spotlight.
It's the same reason we got Tawana Brawley & Al Sharpton way back when. |
It's foolhardy to blame the media for a circus like this -- I don't see anyone else in business doing "the right thing," all I see is everyone trying to make more money. It's capitalism at work.
This is the kind of stuff the sheep eat up. Look no further than the ratings for Scott Peterson and Jon Benet Ramsey. We get more of this crap because a large segment of the population can't get enough of this. If people would think for two seconds and have a fascination with anything of substance that isn't cheap melodrama, we wouldn't get crap like this. It's a free market at work. God bless America. |
I am told that WSB Radio just played "I Ran" by A Flock Of Seagulls, heading into a commercial from their coverage of this story. Too funny.
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My problem is that "Freedom of the Press" gives these guys some advantages, but with it comes a bit of responsibility. The Media is all about grabbing their protections but not one whit about truth or honesty in their reporting. If this were true capitalism, they wouldn't have to hide behind the Bill of Rights, and the (ex-)fiance would have a case against the media for slander or libel. So no, with the media it's not all about capitalism. |
I just ran an errand, and can confirm that WSB Radio is playing a song with a relationship to this story on every break.
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Umm ... how do you figure? If they reported on the negotiations about him taking a lie detector, there's no slander or libel there. If commentators discuss the possibilities & ramifications of such a lie detector test, I see nothing slanderous or libelous there, it's a discussion of a situation that's already public. (See below). I just don't know of anything said about the guy that wasn't/isn't true, so I don't quite see how they've engaged in anything slanderous or libelous here. There's no requirement that the truth be flattering. Now, whether this was worth all the hoopla, that's a different matter, but I'm just not seeing anything inappropriate done to the fiancee here. To borrow from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slander#Truth In the various states, whether by case law or actual legislation, there are generally several "privileges" that can get a defamation case dismissed without proceeding to trial. These include the allegedly defamatory statement being one of opinion rather than fact; or being "fair comment and criticism", as it is important to society that everyone be able to comment on matters of public interest. If a defamation lawsuit actually gets to trial, truth is an affirmative defense. Another is if the allegedly defamatory statement is not actually capable of being defamatory—an insulting statement that does not harm someone's reputation is prima facie not libelous. Another defense that is presented by accused media companies is "fault"—a series of court rulings led by New York Times Co. v. Sullivan (376 U.S. 254) established that for a plaintiff to win a libel case, "actual malice" or "reckless negligence" must be proved on the part of the defendant if the statement in question is about a public official or public figure. In the case of a private figure, the plaintiff must merely prove negligence. |
I hope FoxNews drops this story quickly. I get freaked out everytime that chicks bulging eyes appear on my TV screen. :eek:
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Unless I missed something big, there was nothing reported that would warrant a libel claim.
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No case for libel or slander? The media already has people thinking he's a crook. |
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That about sums it up for me. |
Chick has psycho "Linda Cohn" eyes, and her fiance' looks Chris Farley in a few pictures. Nice combo.
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Hey, at least they didn't let her shoot up a courthouse and then run around free. |
If my wedding had 600 people and 28 bridesmaids+groomsmen, I might have taken a long bus ride, too.
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My problem with this is that they are usually jumping the gun. Wait until the police have something solid, but instead the media latches on to any little tidbit they can dig up and then plaster it everywhere. Did they list every person the police brought in for questioning, or did they just focus on him? |
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On the latter point, it matters not one whit. On the former, all the media did was report on the thing that every single person I talked about this case IRL to was already thinking/wondering before the media ever mentioned the lie detector stuff about the fiancee -- did he do it. The media didn't create that, human nature & past events created that. |
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They probably figure they've got bigger issues to worry about. |
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Oh wow. I didn't know they got them involved, too. They were going for blood. |
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As for the FBI, I don't think that means they were going for blood. I was under the impression that FBI involvement is standard operating procedure for kidnapping cases. |
FBI may also get involved when it's multiple states, I think.
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the irony is that if this were an inner city welfare mother, she be charged in a heartbeat with making a false missing persons report and lying to police. But on the other hand, if she were an inner city welfare mother the police would not have wasted all these resources looking for her and the national media would never have reported it.
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kidnapping becomes a federal crime when the victim is transported across state lines. |
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yea but is false claims about being drug across state lines a federal crime? |
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If it weren't such a circus that people were paying attention to, they wouldn't have put nearly as many people on the case. Quote:
That was my fiance's reaction to the story and I can't say I blame her. Quote:
To be fair, if my significant other disappeared, I doubt the first thing on my mind would be to cover my ass. It's just not what's on your mind, I'd presume. Plus if you get a criminal lawyer, don't they just jump on you as "having something to hide". Quote:
Well, of course, it's another one of those "non news" stories. What else is new? SI |
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Sure they do, but which is worse, people thinking your guilty or prison? People will think you're guilty either way. If the police get you to believe hiring a lawyer is a bad idea, they have already got you convicted. |
the poor husband was getting questioned as someone who might have been involved in her disapperance for awhile.
Geez, those are some crazy eyes. |
she wouldn't have to worry about cold feet over the wedding after this. I would send her a big fat bill for any portion of the wedding and kick her out the door. If she left, and then heard that they were questioning her fiance about her disappearance and she did not call to set the record straight then I would not spend another day with her IMO.
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of course, now he could kill her and dispose of her body and everyone would think she just ran off again.
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Are we about to miss the perfect crime??? |
How come no one else has brought up the Margot Kidder phenomenon? She looks just like her - and wasn't Margot Kidder found in Beverly Hills wearing a Care Bears t-shirt and pair of knee-highs?
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What ever happened to the evil genius thread? This one would be perfect in it :D :D SI |
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The Police, acting compassionate. The Youth Ministry worker, calling for vengeance. Whoda thunk it? |
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asking that police enforce the law is now asking for vengeance? |
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Law Enforcement Officers use discretion all of the time. The warning instead of the ticket for speeding. The decision not to charge someone for a ticky-tack firearms regulations violation when that person's just shot someone in self defense. The, in fact, decision not to bring charges for creating a disturbance whilst running a scavenger hunt. But if you want them to go all Old Testament on us, good for you. |
How much money does law enforcement spend in writing a ticket. How many investigative hours are spent when law enforcement doesn't charge someone with a "ticky-tack" firearms violation. How much time and energy was spent investigating a disturbance that turned out to be a scavenger hunt.
This was front page news for several days, and this woman never had the courage to simply tell police "I'm fine, I just need some time away." I'd say in this case, if laws were violated, charges would be appropriate. |
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It's not her responsibility to tell police where she is at all times. Filing a false report is a crime. She should be punished. But leaving the area because you want some time alone is not. And shouldn't be. |
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Thank you, Captain Obvious. I was simply stating that if, after this became front page news and she was aware that there was a massive search to find her, she let law enforcement know what the situation was... she might have avoided the possible charges. I was not advocating a society in which we tell police we're going to the grocery store to pick up a gallon of milk. :rolleyes: |
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Looks like somebody beat you to it ... armed with a fugly stick. |
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