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QuikSand 05-02-2005 01:55 PM

Kellen WInslow, Jr. -- Now, about that incentive-laden contract...
 
It appears that our "warrior" lost a battle with a parking lot curb.

Plain Dealer article

QuikSand 05-02-2005 01:57 PM

ESPN article

Ben E Lou 05-02-2005 02:00 PM

Somewhere, Ron Gant is wincing.

Warhammer 05-02-2005 02:01 PM

Doesn't he have an incentive to break Ki-Jana Carter's record for most games missed?

Franklinnoble 05-02-2005 02:08 PM

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy...

CleBrownsfan 05-02-2005 02:08 PM

I give up... :rolleyes:

stevew 05-02-2005 02:26 PM

...just when you thought cleveland was getting its shit together.

Samdari 05-02-2005 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew
...just when you thought cleveland was getting its shit together.


What exactly made you think that?

stevew 05-02-2005 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Samdari
What exactly made you think that?

Good draft, quality owner, new coach, good offseason moves. Now I'm not sure whats up with their line or defense, but they have a decent blend on offense adding Droughns and Edwards and hopefully having Winslow over the middle.

scooper 05-02-2005 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew
Good draft, quality owner, new coach, good offseason moves. Now I'm not sure whats up with their line or defense, but they have a decent blend on offense adding Droughns and Edwards and hopefully having Winslow over the middle.


You mean Droughns the holdout? That's a nice move. Trade for a system RB who immediately holds out.

JeeberD 05-02-2005 02:54 PM

You would have thought that these guys would have learned something from the whole Jason Williams thing...

stevew 05-02-2005 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by scooper
You mean Droughns the holdout? That's a nice move. Trade for a system RB who immediately holds out.



Oh, didnt realize he was holding out. Cleveland sucked ass over the last several years, its pretty obvious. All I'm saying is that they made some good moves, and this happening hurts pretty bad. I hate the Browns anyways.

scooper 05-02-2005 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew
Oh, didnt realize he was holding out. Cleveland sucked ass over the last several years, its pretty obvious. All I'm saying is that they made some good moves, and this happening hurts pretty bad. I hate the Browns anyways.


Yep, he's one of a handful of guys Rosenhaus has holding out right now. TO being the big one, of course. I'm not fond of them either, but I fear with Savage around, the bad decisions may start to dwindle. Unless that dirty Cuyahoga water rots his mind.

Cringer 05-02-2005 03:57 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!

Winslow is a dork

yabanci 05-02-2005 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CleBrownsfan
I give up... :rolleyes:


You can always root for Denver. At least the defensive line will make you feel at home.

amdaily 05-02-2005 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by scooper
You mean Droughns the holdout? That's a nice move. Trade for a system RB who immediately holds out.


That was a terrible move. I would never trade for RB from Denver, much less one that was already crying for a new contract.

When all is said and done, I think William Green will be the Browns leading rusher this year. Droughins will look horrible when and if he comes back and Suggs will get hurt very early on, again. Green appears to have everything back in order and could be the back he was during the second half of his rookie year.

Sharpieman 05-02-2005 04:03 PM

Wait, who was supposed to be the browns QB this year?

Joe 05-02-2005 04:07 PM

Winslow's a fuckin soldier.

Sharpieman 05-02-2005 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharpieman
Wait, who was supposed to be the browns QB this year?

Sharpie, it will be either Trent Dilfer or rookie Charlie Frye. So in retrospect, having Winslow uninjured wouldn't matter.

SunDevil 05-02-2005 04:33 PM

Karma is a bitch

duckman 05-02-2005 04:44 PM

"I don't see no fruit basket! Are you trying to starve my client?!"

Maple Leafs 05-02-2005 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman
"I don't see no fruit basket! Are you trying to starve my client?!"

"I ain't leaving until I get my happy ending!"

wade moore 05-02-2005 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharpieman
Sharpie, it will be either Trent Dilfer or rookie Charlie Frye. So in retrospect, having Winslow uninjured wouldn't matter.


I'm rooting for URFA Lang Campbell... woohoo!

CleBrownsfan 05-02-2005 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by yabanci
You can always root for Denver. At least the defensive line will make you feel at home.


Yeah, good luck with that sorry ass ex-Cleveland DL :p

cthomer5000 05-03-2005 07:42 PM

This story will be just too funny if he ends up owning the Browns a large portion of his signing bonus.

Draft Dodger 05-03-2005 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharpieman
Sharpie, it will be either Trent Dilfer or rookie Charlie Frye. So in retrospect, having Winslow uninjured wouldn't matter.


does "Sharpie" always answer his own questions?

cincyreds 05-03-2005 07:56 PM

He's an idiot!!

He is a spoiled brat whose got alot of money, but hopefully not for long.

I'd cut him right now if he were on my team.

Stupid arrogant, no good for nothing....

JonInMiddleGA 05-03-2005 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cincyreds
He's an idiot!!


They should have known that when they drafted him.

No, wait, I forgot ... he's a solider :rolleyes:

sabotai 05-03-2005 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA
They should have known that when they drafted him.

No, wait, I forgot ... he's a solider :rolleyes:


No, no...he's a fucking soldier!

Sharpieman 05-03-2005 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger
does "Sharpie" always answer his own questions?

No, not always. But thats not the only thing Sharpieman can do. He can also answer questions in the third person.

Sharpieman 05-03-2005 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000
This story will be just too funny if he ends up owning the Browns a large portion of his signing bonus.

That will probably be the case, because it says specifically in his contract that he can't ride motorcycle.

yabanci 05-03-2005 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CleBrownsfan
Yeah, good luck with that sorry ass ex-Cleveland DL :p


As a Raider fan, I say the same thing ;)

stevew 05-04-2005 04:14 AM

Im by no means an afficianado of bikes(I do watch American Chopper from time to time), but i googled what he was riding, a Suzuki GSX-R750, which is a slightly higher quality "crotch rocket" type bike. No wonder he got hurt.

Apathetic Lurker 05-04-2005 04:43 AM

What did people expect? A brain surgeon? Miami is only school where they hold a parade for you if you score double digits on the Wonderlic

johneh 05-04-2005 07:56 AM

There is actually reports now that he was seen earlier that day at a motorcycle show in Canton (approx. 60 miles from where he crashed) with a bunch of more expereinced riders who were popping wheelies, and when Winslow left the show he did a wheelie going about 50 mph. I guess there are several people who can back up the story as he made no secret at the show about being Winslow.

Hammer755 05-04-2005 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog
Somewhere, Ron Gant is wincing.

I was listening to Gant calling a Braves game early in the season when they started talking about Brian Jordan giving Freddy Gonazales a motorcycle as a reward for giving up his number 33. One of the other announcers (the young Carey, I think) asked Gant something along the lines of 'Hey, you know a thing or two about motorcyles, don't you Ron?' Gant kind of reluctantly stammered out, 'Haha, yeah I know a bit about them.'

Raven Hawk 05-04-2005 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai
No, no...he's a fucking soldier!


Now he's hoping for a fucking purple heart . . .

Surtt 05-04-2005 01:43 PM

Maybe he was swerving to avoid a land mine.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER 05-04-2005 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew
Im by no means an afficianado of bikes(I do watch American Chopper from time to time), but i googled what he was riding, a Suzuki GSX-R750, which is a slightly higher quality "crotch rocket" type bike. No wonder he got hurt.

I other words its not newbie friendly.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER 05-04-2005 10:31 PM

Dola: Can it be possible that he's in worse shape than we are being lead to believe?

JeeberD 05-04-2005 11:28 PM

Heard on the radio not long ago that he's still in the hospital with a swollen shoulder and a swollen leg...both so swollen that an MRI can't be done on either part yet.

Doesn't sound life threatening at all, but certainly could be career threatening...

yabanci 05-05-2005 12:28 AM

Some new reporting on the incident (summarized by pro football talk):

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Our buddy Pat McManamon of The Akron Beacon Journal reports that Browns tight end Kellen Winslow's motorcycle wreck was the final incident of a long day of riding his relatively new toy.

Per McManamon, Winslow had driven his motorcycle to Canton on Sunday and visited a "bike superstore." Upon leaving the store, an off-duty cop saw Winslow pop a wheelie.

"I looked at the guy working with me and said, 'That's a million-dollar wheelie,'" Eric Stanbro told McManamon.

Winslow held the wheelie for about 100 feet, and the bike was moving fast at the time.

"He gunned it,'' Stanbro said. "He was going real fast. I'd estimate between 40 and 50 miles per hour."

But Winslow appeared to be a novice rider. "It appeared to us he was riding with a bunch of very experienced riders,'' Stanbro said. "The way they were dressed, their bikes. His bike had a 30-day tag on. He looked a little uncertain."

robbgmaier 05-05-2005 01:22 AM

as a moutaineer fan, who saw this fuckalinski catch a 4th and 15 pass late in the game which ended up resulting in a winning drive against us.....I laugh my ass off everytime I see this thread. Can we pump it up a little and turn it into the thread that just won't die? I'm thinking of cartoons with little pop up bubbles, .....hanging out with friends....priceless.......the joy of buying a new toy....priceless......being stupid and disrespectful about the terms of an NFL footbool contract.....20 million or so....

HA HA HA HA HA HA.

HA HA HA HA HA HA.

yeah, I know, that's mean......HA HA HA HA HA HA

Cringer 05-05-2005 01:45 AM

I bet some would think it's unfair it the Browns cut him, afterall, theysigned a contact.... :rolleyes:

BigJohn&TheLions 05-05-2005 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apatheric Lurker
What did people expect? A brain surgeon? Miami is only school where they hold a parade for you if you score double digits on the Wonderlic


I thought that Winslow wondered why his helmet had a "U" on it when "It would be me wearing it." :D

albionmoonlight 05-05-2005 09:27 AM

http://www.tribune-chronicle.com/spo...1winslow05.asp

Possible torn ACL. Done for season if that's the case.

If he is gone, then I am interested to see how the Browns handle it. On the one hand, they could use the cap relief that getting his bonus and salary back will bring. On the other hand, I am sure that his agents are telling the Browns Front Office that if they don't "do the right thing" and honor his contract (despite the fact that he breached it), they will do everything that they can to portray the Front Office as cheap, callous, and penny pinching to future free agents.

Flasch186 05-05-2005 11:45 AM

LOL

Herd just repeated that, torn ACL...lost for year "Serious"

ageofquarrel 05-05-2005 11:58 AM

Reports have been saying that the day of the accident Winslow was in a bike shop watching a video called Star Boyz. The Star Boyz are a Clevand area crotch rocket stunt team, the funny thing I found out today is I used to know their team manager.

Blackadar 05-05-2005 12:02 PM

Cost of motorcycle: $10,000.00

Cost of helmet: $150.00

Cost of good protection gear: $350.00

Cost of safety lesions: $500.00



Ruining a promising NFL career over stupidity: Priceless

BigJohn&TheLions 05-05-2005 12:12 PM

So let me get this straight...

Winslow hit Jim's garage door, knocked his entire home off its foundation and took out a pole?


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