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Passacaglia 05-06-2005 12:08 PM

Which book is more girly?
 
So, lurker and i were talking about girly books, and got into a big fight about which book is more girly, Gone with the Wind by Margeret Mitchelll, or Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen. So, anyway, before you guys return all the wedding gifts you got us, we figured we'd see which book you think is girliest.

Izulde 05-06-2005 12:08 PM

Pride and Prejudice by far.

Honolulu_Blue 05-06-2005 12:12 PM

Hrmmm...

Well, I would have to go with Pride & Prejudice. At least there's a war in Gone with the Wind. You have some soldiers mucking about in P&P, but that's about it.

Lady H_B loves the BBC version of P&P. All 5+ hours of it. Apparently Colin Firth smolders as Mr. Darcy as no man has smoldered before. There have been repeated viewings, during the last of which I was in the other room playing Championship Manager but could still hear it. By hour 4 I felt so wussified that I had to leave and go see the "Dawn of the Dead" re-make to compensate. It worked wonders. That said, there are quite a few amusing scenes in the BBC P&P and the actors are top notch. Perfect casting. (Did I say that last part out loud?)

SackAttack 05-06-2005 12:12 PM

The correct answer is "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."

They're both girly.

lurker 05-06-2005 12:28 PM

The movies (both) are great, but let's make it about which book is more girly. As in, reading which one in public makes a guy more mockable?

Edit -- Passacaglia, you call that a big fight? Wow, we really do have an uneventful relationship :)

Passacaglia 05-06-2005 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker
Edit -- Passacaglia, you call that a big fight? Wow, we really do have an uneventful relationship :)


Just trying to liven it up for the crew here, since a thread that was JUST about girly books wouldn't fly. :p

lurker 05-06-2005 12:33 PM

Oh yeah, good plan. But we better not talk too much about fights, or else we'll make people "uncomfortable".

SackAttack, the exact line "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" isn't even in the book :p

Crapshoot 05-06-2005 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker
Oh yeah, good plan. But we better not talk too much about fights, or else we'll make people "uncomfortable".

SackAttack, the exact line "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" isn't even in the book :p


Yup- most people don't know that.
As to the question, I think Pride and Prejudice (and Austen in general) is awesome, but I could certainly see people thinking of it as "Girly"...

Raiders Army 05-06-2005 12:35 PM

Which one has a picture of Fabio on the cover? That's the one I'm voting for.

lurker 05-06-2005 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue
That said, there are quite a few amusing scenes in the BBC P&P


If you thought there were a few amusing scenes in the movie, you should really read the book. There's quite a lot of understated humor in that book that doesn't translate to the movie.

Honolulu_Blue 05-06-2005 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker
If you thought there were a few amusing scenes in the movie, you should really read the book. There's quite a lot of understated humor in that book that doesn't translate to the movie.


I have read the book. We had to in my junior year of highschool. I was a bit young (and uninterested at the time), but I remember thinking it wasn't too bad.

miked 05-06-2005 12:53 PM

Anything by Jane Austen trumps the girly debate.

Raiders Army 05-06-2005 12:54 PM

I thought those Sweet Valley Twins books were really girly...or whatever they were called.

lurker 05-06-2005 12:55 PM

So this is the point where I start debating. Passacaglia, if you think this will influence the voters, let me know and maybe I'll delete it!

Wouldn't it make more sense that since Pride and Prejudice is seen as more of a classic novel and that it's read in literature classes it's more gender-neutral than a book that was generally only read for pleasure, and generally by women?

CHEMICAL SOLDIER 05-06-2005 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack
The correct answer is "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."

They're both girly.

LMAOF :D

miked 05-06-2005 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker
So this is the point where I start debating. Passacaglia, if you think this will influence the voters, let me know and maybe I'll delete it!

Wouldn't it make more sense that since Pride and Prejudice is seen as more of a classic novel and that it's read in literature classes it's more gender-neutral than a book that was generally only read for pleasure, and generally by women?


If I saw a male reading Pride and Prejudice on the street, I would automatically assume it was for a class as few males would decide this is a book they would like to read.

lurker 05-06-2005 01:12 PM

That seems really weird and unfortunate, but probably true. Why wouldn't this hypothetical male think "hey, this is a classic novel, I should see what's so good about it that make people decide to analyze it"? I didn't stop and think Hemingway or Hardy only wrote guy books. I thought there must be a reason they're recommended so I should read them.

Passacaglia 05-06-2005 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker
So this is the point where I start debating. Passacaglia, if you think this will influence the voters, let me know and maybe I'll delete it!


Nah, you don't need to delete it, since you're already getting your butt kicked! :p

hhiipp 05-06-2005 01:53 PM

Whichever one you're reading is the one I'd say is more girly.

albionmoonlight 05-06-2005 01:55 PM

I'm with you, Lurker. P&P is a much better book and, accordingly, less girly in my eyes. It has quality that transcends gender.

But, as you can see, we are wrong. Girly is what the masses say it is, and the masses say that, while D'Arcy may be Firthalicious, he is--in the end--girly.

Crapshoot 05-06-2005 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by miked
If I saw a male reading Pride and Prejudice on the street, I would automatically assume it was for a class as few males would decide this is a book they would like to read.


I disagree - I think Austen is awesome. Having an interest in reading classic literature doesnt make you any less of a man or any such thing.

Crapshoot 05-06-2005 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker
That seems really weird and unfortunate, but probably true. Why wouldn't this hypothetical male think "hey, this is a classic novel, I should see what's so good about it that make people decide to analyze it"? I didn't stop and think Hemingway or Hardy only wrote guy books. I thought there must be a reason they're recommended so I should read them.


I'm with you. This is akin to ignoring Agatha Christie because she's a female detective story writer in favor of Doyle or what not.

B & B 05-06-2005 02:06 PM

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lurker 05-06-2005 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia
Nah, you don't need to delete it, since you're already getting your butt kicked! :p


Well, the quality voters know which one is better. The ones on my side are able to expand on their opinions, so they're obviously more literate. :D We should have made it a public poll so we wouldn't have to count the votes of those who obviously never read either one.

Honolulu_Blue 05-06-2005 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker
Well, the quality voters know which one is better. The ones on my side are able to expand on their opinions, so they're obviously more literate. :D We should have made it a public poll so we wouldn't have to count the votes of those who obviously never read either one.


To qualify. While I voted P&P to be more "girly" than GWTW, it is by no means a reflection of which one is "better" than the other. P&P is a literary classic. A great book and a fantastic piece of literature. While GWTW is a classic as well, I do think P&P is a better book.

One being more "girly" than the other speaks nothing of the merits of the texts. It is simply an assessment of how "girly" (whatever the hell that means) each book is.

If y'all wanted this to be a vote as to which is the better book, you should have said so. Unless "girly" in the Lurkacaglia family is a synonym for "bad", which just wouldn't be right.

lurker 05-06-2005 02:17 PM

No, I knew what you were saying. I was just doing some trash-talking.

My contention is just that the better book should be seen as less girly, because calling it girly implies that men wouldn't enjoy reading it. But I'm aware that that's not necessarily the opnion others hold.

wade moore 05-06-2005 02:26 PM

I voted before reading the thread.

I selected Gone with the wind.


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