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sabotai 05-20-2005 07:00 PM

College Football History, Relegation Style
 
This will be a historic replay of college football histroy with one littly, tiny twist. It will be done relegation style. That's right! Teams will be broken up into conferences much like in the English world of soccer. The best teams move up, the worst teams move down

The Setup

College Platinum Conference (CPC) - The top conference. 12 teams. Bottom 2 teams get relegated to the CGC.

College Gold Conference (CGC) - The second top conference. 12 teams. The top 2 teams get promoted into the CPC and the bottom 2 go down to the CSC.

College Silver Conference (CSC) - The third top conference. 12 Teams. The top 2 teams get promoted to the CGC. The bottom team gets relegated out.

We start in 1900, with 41 teams. 36 are in conferences, leaving 5 independant teams. The Independant with the best record enters the CSC.

The Schedule

Each team plays each other once. That gives us an 11 game schedule for the regular season.

In the independants, they will all play each other twice for an 8 game schedule.

Each conference then plays a 6 team tournament, with the top 2 teams getting byes, for the conference championship. The games in these tournements count towards the final record and standings.

Then, we go to the big tournement. A 32 team tournement. The setup for the 1900 season will be every team, seeded by conference and then record, that was not relegated. That gives up 31 teams. The last spot will be taken by the independant team with the best record. The games played in this tournement do not count towards records and standings.

The Game

The game I will be using to do this will be Quick Play Football, an "excel and dice" game I found on www.tabletop-sports.com. Each team gets a few ratings and that's it. So no rosters or stats will be kept. It's just scores and records.

Each team that finishes first in their conference will receive a +1 bonus to all of their values for the next season.

If ia team is not rated the following year, they retain the values they had the previous season, but with a -1 penalty to all of them.

sabotai 05-20-2005 07:03 PM

1900 Preseason

College Platinum Conference
Yale
Pennsylvania
Harvard
Princeton
Wisconsin
Lafayette
Minnesota
Cornell
Iowa
Columbia
Syracuse
Beloit

College Gold Conference
Brown
Nebraska
Carlisle
Michigan
Bowdoin
Northwestern
Illinois
Chicago
Notre Dame
Army
Navy
Dickinson

College Silver Conference
Drake
Wesleyan
Williams
Knox
Indiana
Penn State
Lehigh
Holy Cross
Amherst
Purdue
Trinity
Tufts

Independants
Massachusetts
Dartmouth
Bucknell
Grinnell
Iowa State

General Mike 05-20-2005 07:09 PM

No Rutgers? B'otch!

sabotai 05-20-2005 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Mike
No Rutgers? B'otch!


They're not rated in the file I have. I searched and they don't appear until 1914. And then they disappear, and then come back, and then disappear....

sabotai 05-20-2005 08:21 PM

Week 1 Schedule

CPC
Yale at Harvard
Pennsylvania at Princeton
Wisconsin at Minnesota
Lafayette at Cornell
Iowa at Syracuse
Columbia at Beloit

CGC
Brown at Carlisle
Nebraska at Michigan
Bowdoin at Illinois
Northwestern at Chicago
Notre Dame at Navy
Army at Dickinson

CSC
Drake at Williams
Weslayen at Knox
Indiana at Lehigh
Penn State at Holy Cross
Amherst at Trinity
Purdue at Tufts

Ind.
Massachusetts at Dartmouth
Bucknell at Iowa State

Wolfpack 05-20-2005 11:06 PM

Yale and Harvard out of the gate? Sheesh. So much for tradition. ;)

In the end, I expect it will come down to Yale and Iowa, which were both unbeaten in my 1900 replay.

sabotai 05-21-2005 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfpack
Yale and Harvard out of the gate? Sheesh. So much for tradition. ;)

In the end, I expect it will come down to Yale and Iowa, which were both unbeaten in my 1900 replay.


There's no tradition like a new tradition. :D

And looking at the numbers, you're probably right. Yale has the most complete team, but Iowa is packing an offensive powerhouse.

sabotai 05-21-2005 12:04 PM

CPC Week 1 Results

Games
Yale 14, Harvard 13
Pennsylvania 16, Princeton 14
Wisconsin 37, Minnesota 13
Lafayette 0, Cornell 14
Iowa 41, Syracuse 14
Columbia 19, Beloit 8

Standings
Code:

CPC                Wins        Loses
 Yale                1       
 Pennsylvania        1       
 Wisconsin        1       
 Cornell        1       
 Iowa                1       
 Columbia        1       
 Harvard                1
 Princeton                1
 Lafayette                1
 Minnesota                1
 Syracuse                1
 Beloit                        1
 


tucker342 05-22-2005 03:31 PM

Go Iowa!:)

sabotai 05-25-2005 08:13 PM

CGC Week 1 Results

Brown 3, Carlisle 7
Nebraska 7, Michigan 10
Bowdoin 14, Illinois 12
Northwestern 0, Chicago 21
Notre Dame 17, Navy 3
Army 3, Dickinson 24

Standings After Week 1
Code:

CGC                Wins        Loses               
 Carlisle        1       
 Michigan        1       
 Bowdoin        1       
 Chicago        1       
 Notre Dame        1       
 Dickinson        1       
 Brown                        1
 Nebraska                1
 Northwestern                1
 Illinois                1
 Army                        1
 Navy                        1
 


Wolfpack 05-25-2005 08:29 PM

I'll go ahead and call a shot for 1901. If Michigan doesn't get out of the second division after this year, they'll slaughter everyone and everything en route to a 13-0 mark and the conference title next year. About the only team I can see stopping them is Harvard. It wasn't Fielding Yost's "point-a-minute" squad for nothing.

sabotai 05-25-2005 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfpack
I'll go ahead and call a shot for 1901. If Michigan doesn't get out of the second division after this year, they'll slaughter everyone and everything en route to a 13-0 mark and the conference title next year. About the only team I can see stopping them is Harvard. It wasn't Fielding Yost's "point-a-minute" squad for nothing.


It's going to be hard for them to get out of the Gold Conference, too, since their team isn't all that good, really. I'd say the frontrunners for promotion would be Carlisle, Bowdoin and Notre Dame. But yeah, they'll likely tear it up next year.

sabotai 05-25-2005 08:52 PM

CSC Week 1 Results

Drake 7, Williams 7
Wesleyan 21, Knox 3
Indiana 7, Lehigh 3
Penn State 7, Holy Cross 9
Amherst 9, Trinity 0
Purdue 22, Tufts 16

CSC Standings After Week 1
Code:

CSC                    Wins    Loses        Ties                   
 Wesleyan        1        0        0
 Indiana        1        0        0
 Holy Cross        1        0        0
 Amherst        1        0        0
 Purdue                1        0        0
 Drake                0        0        1
 Williams        0        0        1
 Knox                0        1        0
 Penn State        0        1        0
 Lehigh                0        1        0
 Trinity        0        1        0
 Tufts                0        1        0
   


sabotai 05-25-2005 09:05 PM

Independants Week 1 Results

Massachusetts 0, Dartmouth 3
Bucknell 7, Iowa State 3

Independant Standings After Week 1
Code:

Ind.                Wins        Loses        Ties
 Dartmouth        1        0        0
 Bucknell        1        0        0
 Grinnell        0        0        0
 Massachusetts        0        1        0
 Iowa State        0        1        0


sabotai 05-25-2005 09:12 PM

Week 2 Schedule

CPC
Princeton at Yale
Harvard at Pennsylvania
Cornell at Wisconsin
Minnesota at Lafayette
Beloit at Iowa
Syracuse at Columbia

CGC
Michigan at Brown
Carlisle at Nebraska
Chicago at Bowoin
Illinois at Northwestern
Dickinson at Notre Dame
Navy at Army

CSC
Knox at Drake
Williams at Wesleyan
Holy Cross at Indiana
Lehigh at Penn State
Tufts at Amherst
Trinity at Purdue

Ind.
Grinnell at Bucknell
Iowa State at Massachusetts

MIJB#19 05-26-2005 08:40 AM

Minor bitching: relegating up? Don't you mean promoting, or is my English that bad?

Wolfpack 05-26-2005 10:09 AM

Just think of it as negative Newspeak. Sort of like saying, "plus unbad" or "double plus unbad". :D

sabotai 05-26-2005 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIJB#19
Minor bitching: relegating up? Don't you mean promoting, or is my English that bad?


Yeah, yeah, I fixed it. :p

sabotai 05-29-2005 02:00 PM

CPC Week 2 Results

Princeton 6, Yale 24
Harvard 6, Pennsylvania 17
Cornell 0, Wisconsin 40
Minnesota 15, Lafayette 24
Beloit 14, Iowa 26
Syracuse 10, Columbia 19

CPC Standings after Week 2
Code:

CPC                    Wins    Loses        Ties        PF        PA
 Yale                2        0        0        38        19
 Pennsylvania        2        0        0        33        20
 Wisconsin        2        0        0        87        13
 Iowa                2        0        0        67        28
 Columbia        2        0        0        38        18
 Cornell        1        1        0        14        40
 Lafayette        1        1        0        24        29
 Harvard        0        2        0        19        31
 Princeton        0        2        0        20        40
 Minnesota        0        2        0        28        61
 Syracuse        0        2        0        24        60
 Beloit                0        2        0        22        45
 


Wolfpack 05-29-2005 09:48 PM

How do you intend to handle promotion/relegation with respect to schools that don't consistently field teams, especially during these first few years when teams are in one year but not the next? Are they considered to have been "relegated" if they drop out for a year (or longer), thus sparing another team the axe or what?

sabotai 05-29-2005 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfpack
How do you intend to handle promotion/relegation with respect to schools that don't consistently field teams, especially during these first few years when teams are in one year but not the next? Are they considered to have been "relegated" if they drop out for a year (or longer), thus sparing another team the axe or what?


What I'm going to do is just keep them in the league, use the prior year's ratings but put a -1 penalty to all of the values. If they are still gone, I add another -1 penalty, et.c If they go long enough without coming back, they'll be dreadfully horrible and I'll just cut them out for good (but not until they are out of the top conferences)

New teams coming in always start as Ind. or in the bottom group (if their addition to the league gives enough for another conference).

sabotai 06-11-2005 03:02 PM

CGC Week 2 Results

Michigan 0, Brown 13
Carlisle 20, Nebraska 10
Chicago 21, Bowdoin 21
Illinois 14, Northwestern 0
Dickinson 23, Notre Dame 13
Army 7, Navy 0

CGC Standings after Week 2
Code:

CGC                    Wins    Loses        Ties        PF        PA
 Dickinson        2        0        0        47        16
 Carlisle        2        0        0        27        13
 Chicago        1        0        1        42        21
 Bowdoin        1        0        1        35        33
 Notre Dame        1        1        0        30        26
 Illinois        1        1        0        26        14
 Brown                1        1        0        16        7
 Michigan        1        1        0        10        20
 Army                1        1        0        10        24
 Nebraska        0        2        0        17        30
 Navy                0        2        0        3        24
 Northwestern        0        2        0        0        35
   


sabotai 06-12-2005 10:48 AM

CSC Week 2 Results

Knox 6, Drake 6
Williams 0, Wesleyan 10
Holy Cross 0, Indiana 14
Lehigh 0, Penn State 21
Tufts 3, Amherst 10
Trinity 3, Purdue 24

CSC Standings after Week 2
Code:

CSC                    Wins    Loses        Ties        PF        PA
 Purdue                2        0        0        46        19
 Wesleyan        2        0        0        31        3
 Indiana        2        0        0        21        3
 Amherst        2        0        0        19        3
 Penn State        1        1        0        28        9
 Holy Cross        1        1        0        9        21
 Drake                0        0        2        13        13
 Knox                0        1        1        9        27
 Williams        0        1        1        7        17
 Tufts                0        2        0        19        32
 Lehigh                0        2        0        3        28
 Trinity        0        2        0        3        33
 
   



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