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Hurst2112 08-18-2005 01:09 AM

OT: Settle a bet...for a steak dinner
 
Ok,

My wife and I like to bet steak dinners for various things. I am up on the food by 1 meal (friend's escapades with boyfriends...long story).

Anyway, I was wondering if anybody knew the proper term for the following:

My wife says that the USA does not have a formal name. I said that the name is "The United States of America". She said no because provinces are states. She mentioned that Canada and Mexico (whom both have provinces) are united and consider themselves "united states". I laughed and made the steak dinner bet.

Who is right? I understand that America is describing a region. It IS unusual that Canada and Mexico are names of countries and then there is the US of A. Strange, but I think I am right.

Swaggs 08-18-2005 01:16 AM

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article...d%20States&ct=

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officially United States of America

Peregrine 08-18-2005 01:29 AM

You are right.

Hurst2112 08-18-2005 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Peregrine
You are right.


Yeah, i figured I was but try telling that to the Mrs....

thanks

Peregrine 08-18-2005 01:41 AM

If she wants more details, you can tell her that yes, Canada has states, but at the time the U.S was being formed, Canada barely existed, and not in an organized form of provinces. We took on the name United States of America in the Articles of Confederation in 1777, which was the precursor to the Constitution.

Alf 08-18-2005 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hurst2112
I said that the name is "The United States of America"

Seems both of you lost , since the name is "United States of America" not "The United States of America"

Ragone 08-18-2005 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Peregrine
If she wants more details, you can tell her that yes, Canada has states, but at the time the U.S was being formed, Canada barely existed, and not in an organized form of provinces. We took on the name United States of America in the Articles of Confederation in 1777, which was the precursor to the Constitution.




actually i'm pretty sure canada calls them provinces.. not states :P

Peregrine 08-18-2005 03:40 AM

Yeah that's what they call their states.

Raiders Army 08-18-2005 05:53 AM

You're right. Puerto Rico doesn't count either.

gottimd 08-18-2005 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf
Seems both of you lost , since the name is "United States of America" not "The United States of America"

Kind of like Prom and "the Prom"?

JeeberD 08-18-2005 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hurst2112
She mentioned that Canada and Mexico (whom both have provinces) are united and consider themselves "united states". I laughed and made the steak dinner bet.


I swear I've heard Los Estados Unidos de Mexico before...

Draft Dodger 08-18-2005 10:05 AM

get extra food by telling her that Canada is the Dominion of Canada

Karlifornia 08-18-2005 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd
Kind of like Prom and "the Prom"?



No, no. Actually, it's more like McRib and "The McRib".

Is McRib back yet?

Is the McRib back yet?

sabotai 08-18-2005 03:06 PM

According to the link provided, Mexico is officially "United Mexican States". I guess Canada is simply Canada since it doesn't say anything for it.

ISiddiqui 08-18-2005 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD
I swear I've heard Los Estados Unidos de Mexico before...


Mexico's official name is the United Mexican States, or Estados Unidos Mexicanos.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico

stevew 08-18-2005 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd
Kind of like Prom and "the Prom"?


Man, you just made my head hurt.

timmynausea 08-18-2005 03:58 PM

It is officially The Ohio State University, though, right? You might be able to stump her with that one, too.

Surtt 08-18-2005 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger
get extra food by telling her that Canada is the Dominion of Canada


Is Canada "officially" independent?

I thought it was part of the British Commonwealth and has the queen as its ruler.

wishbone 08-18-2005 05:23 PM

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Samdari 08-18-2005 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD
I swear I've heard Los Estados Unidos de Mexico before...


I believe that refers to Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California :)

cougarfreak 08-18-2005 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Surtt
Is Canada "officially" independent?

I thought it was part of the British Commonwealth and has the queen as its ruler.


Canada was granted independence in 1931.


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