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Senator 02-03-2006 01:31 PM

Jeeber - refute
 
http://www.dougshaw.com/essays/olive.html

rkmsuf 02-03-2006 01:32 PM

Ooh, now you gone and done it. It's throw down time, beotch!

Desnudo 02-03-2006 01:34 PM

His use of the word "mayhap" totally discredits him. Didn't read past that, tbh.

Desmond 02-03-2006 01:46 PM

You think they sell Olives there don't you? Thats what you think isn't it?

Raven Hawk 02-03-2006 01:49 PM

By the same logic, Denny's is in business solely to extract Coffee money from me.

QuikSand 02-03-2006 02:06 PM

There are far better reasons not to eat at the OG.

Ksyrup 02-03-2006 02:07 PM

Don't buy the wine. If the food isn't worth it, then don't eat there.

Pretty simple.

Senator 02-03-2006 02:24 PM

Thank you spin doctors. I want Jeeber to refute these charges.

This well written article seeped with extensive data has really spun my world upside down. How can I expect to eat somewhere when I know that they are trying to maximize profits? This is unheard of in the business community.

Butter 02-03-2006 02:27 PM

I've been to OG once or twice in the past few months, and I can't say I notice them overly pushing the wine. But then that web site was written in the mid '70's, so way to be timely with these charges, Senator.

Subby 02-03-2006 04:07 PM

What a great essay. Unfortunately, I doubt it will make a dent in the collective consumer habits of America's burgeoning lemming population...

Drake 02-03-2006 04:09 PM

I've never been to Olive Garden. Is it any good?

Desnudo 02-03-2006 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator
Thank you spin doctors. I want Jeeber to refute these charges.

This well written article seeped with extensive data has really spun my world upside down. How can I expect to eat somewhere when I know that they are trying to maximize profits? This is unheard of in the business community.


Mayhap you might consider that providing wine selections with dinner is an attempt at improving the relationship between Olive Garden and customer. Especially knowing that only the atypical Olive Garden denizen is likely to be well-versed in the lineage of the listed vineyards?

JeeberD 02-03-2006 05:44 PM

The website isn't loading for me. When I can get it to work then I'll come back with a reply...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69
I've been to OG once or twice in the past few months, and I can't say I notice them overly pushing the wine.

Oh, and we do push wine a TON! We're supposed to recommend a wine and ask if the guests want a sample three/four times during their meal. Once when they order drinks, once when they order their food, once when the GET their food, and once if/when they order dessert. Personally, if a table tells me once that they don't want wine I'm not gonna force it on them. I'm there to make money, and pushing a product on them that they don't want isn't a way to do that...

sovereignstar 02-03-2006 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD
The website isn't loading for me. When I can get it to work then I'll come back with a reply...


Oh, and we do push wine a TON! We're supposed to recommend a wine and ask if the guests want a sample three/four times during their meal. Once when they order drinks, once when they order their food, once when the GET their food, and once if/when they order dessert. Personally, if a table tells me once that they don't want wine I'm not gonna force it on them. I'm there to make money, and pushing a product on them that they don't want isn't a way to do that...


I think that reply will do.

Senator 02-03-2006 07:11 PM

Good enough for me.


Not guilty.

duckman 02-03-2006 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator
Good enough for me.


Not guilty.


You're letting him off the hook too easy. Afterall, he is a UTEP fan.

KWhit 02-03-2006 08:25 PM

Did you guys see the Coke/Olive Garden program aimed at keeping customers from ordering tap water? It was linked to in the essay.

http://www.stayfreemagazine.org/public/coke.html

I liked this opening: "Water. It's necessary to sustain life, but to many Casual Dining restaurant chains it contributes to a dull dining experience to the customer."

It's called H2NO.


:)

Buccaneer 02-03-2006 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake
I've never been to Olive Garden. Is it any good?


[shakes head and just walks away quietly]

Ksyrup 02-03-2006 10:28 PM

Guess where we ate tonight. I tried for Carrabba's, but the wife likes the salad and breadsticks.

Anyway, they brought wine over only once, and took both of our water orders (kids had milk) without a problem.

sovereignstar 02-03-2006 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup
Guess where we ate tonight. I tried for Carrabba's, but the wife likes the salad and breadsticks.

Anyway, they brought wine over only once, and took both of our water orders (kids had milk) without a problem.


OG fanboy

JeeberD 02-03-2006 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit
Did you guys see the Coke/Olive Garden program aimed at keeping customers from ordering tap water? It was linked to in the essay.

http://www.stayfreemagazine.org/public/coke.html

I liked this opening: "Water. It's necessary to sustain life, but to many Casual Dining restaurant chains it contributes to a dull dining experience to the customer."

It's called H2NO.


:)


We're supposed to offer you San Peligrino sparkling water or Aqua Panna still water...neither of which I do. :)

thealmighty 02-04-2006 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD
...neither of which I do. :)


Send me free breadsticks or this post will mysteriously find its way to OG headquarters (no wine, please).


:D

st.cronin 02-04-2006 12:58 PM

It really should be criminal they way they overcook their pasta.

bbor 02-04-2006 02:42 PM

Ease up on the OG eh.

JeeberD 02-04-2006 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thealmighty
Send me free breadsticks or this post will mysteriously find its way to OG headquarters (no wine, please).


:D


Stop on by and I'll hook a brutha up. :)

sterlingice 02-04-2006 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup
Guess where we ate tonight. I tried for Carrabba's, but the wife likes the salad and breadsticks.

Anyway, they brought wine over only once, and took both of our water orders (kids had milk) without a problem.

I dunno, I think Carrabba's food is light years better than OG's. Then again, you also pay for it- Carrabba's is $5-10 more per person.

SI

sterlingice 02-04-2006 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit
Did you guys see the Coke/Olive Garden program aimed at keeping customers from ordering tap water? It was linked to in the essay.

http://www.stayfreemagazine.org/public/coke.html

I liked this opening: "Water. It's necessary to sustain life, but to many Casual Dining restaurant chains it contributes to a dull dining experience to the customer."

It's called H2NO.


:)

Yeah, that one bugged me a lot. I *like* water. It doesn't ruin my dining experience. And I can tell when some places don't want you to drink it and it's annoys the heck out of me. I tend to drink 3-4 glasses with a meal as, usually, when I'm going out to eat, it's after a long day so 2 of those are downed before food even makes it. But there are those places who just won't come by and refill your water, except, begrudginly, when you get your food because, at least, at that point, you can flag them down.

SI

CraigSca 02-04-2006 04:04 PM

Why no love for OG? It does what it does. The hatred should be collectively unleashed on Applebees.

vex 02-04-2006 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo
His use of the word "mayhap" totally discredits him. Didn't read past that, tbh.


"It was never a fancy restaurant, "

The multi-colored text did it for me.

terpkristin 02-04-2006 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigSca
Why no love for OG? It does what it does. The hatred should be collectively unleashed on Bob Evans.

Fixed that for you.
Talk about a restaurant that can really kill breakfast (and I would eat breakfast foods 3 meals a day if it were feasible with my schedule).

/tk

JeeberD 02-04-2006 04:35 PM

Finally read the site...what the fuck got stuck in that dude's craw?


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