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kingfc22 02-10-2006 03:47 PM

Soccer: USA vs. Japan
 
The game is 8 PM PST tonight in San Francisco. And I am going!!!

This will be the first time I have attended a US men's national team game. I hope we play some or majority of our A-squad tonight just because I'm selfish and want to see the best we have.

Eaglesfan27 02-10-2006 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22
The game is 8 PM PST tonight in San Francisco. And I am going!!!

This will be the first time I have attended a US mens national team game. I hope we play some or majority of our A-squad tonight just because I'm selfish and want to see the best we have.


I'm so very jealous.

Enjoy the game. :D

TazFTW 02-10-2006 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22
I hope we play some or majority of our A-squad tonight just because I'm selfish and want to see the best we have.


Nope. Here's the roster for the game.

Goalkeepers (3): Kevin Hartman (Los Angeles Galaxy), Matt Reis (New England Revolution), Zach Wells (Houston 1836)

Defenders (5): Bobby Boswell (D.C. United), Jimmy Conrad (Kansas City Wizards), Todd Dunivant (Los Angeles Galaxy), Heath Pearce (FC Nordsjælland), Eddie Pope (Real Salt Lake)

Midfielders (6): Brian Carroll (D.C. United), Clint Dempsey (New England Revolution), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy), Chris Klein (Real Salt Lake), Ben Olsen (D.C. United), Kerry Zavagnin (Kansas City Wizards)

Forwards (6): Brian Ching (Houston 1836), Eddie Johnson (FC Dallas), Pat Noonan (New England Revolution), Chris Rolfe (Chicago Fire), Taylor Twellman (New England Revolution), Josh Wolff (Kansas City Wizards)

ice4277 02-10-2006 05:50 PM

Have a good time. I had the opportunity to go to US/England last year and it was a lot of fun.

Desnudo 02-10-2006 06:21 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing Eddie Johnson back in action.

RPI-Fan 02-10-2006 08:25 PM

It's not TOO bad of a lineup, with one maybe defender on the WC roster (Pope), two definite middies (Donovan & Dempsey), two borderlines (Klein & Zavs), and potentially 4 forwards (Rolfe, Twellman, Wolff, Johnson).

I'd love to see Rolfe play w/ Johnson for at least 60 minutes tonight.

Sublime 2 02-10-2006 09:30 PM

I hope Twellman made his case in the last friendly to keep around for Germany, I like the way he works hard and of course he's a New England boy.

DaddyTorgo 02-10-2006 10:10 PM

3-6-1 for Japan?? that's a new look. should provide a nice challenge for these USA midfielders/defenders

MikeVick7 02-10-2006 10:11 PM

Well I've found my new Hattrick formation, the 3-6-1. Say what? :)

TazFTW 02-10-2006 10:11 PM

Japan is playing a 3-6-1. Interesting.


US starting 11


RPI-Fan 02-10-2006 10:27 PM

Early thoughts (20 mins gone)...


Klein: Terrible
Donovan: Very good
Wolff: Better than usual
Conrad: Don't trust him with the ball
Pope: Not very good

DaddyTorgo 02-10-2006 10:29 PM

klein=not consistent enough with his passes
wolff=always a step behind, or just barely failing to keep control
donovan=spot on

DaddyTorgo 02-10-2006 10:31 PM

dola

impressive possession spell by USA though.

haha. beautiful knockdown header by Twellman. and a goal for Pope!

MikeVick7 02-10-2006 10:31 PM

More thoughts...Japan's wore themselves out with their pressing defense about 13 minutes in.

TazFTW 02-10-2006 10:34 PM

The 3-6-1 is arse.

RPI-Fan 02-10-2006 10:34 PM

That was a heck of a play by Twellman. When Dunivant hit that ball I thought for sure the keeper would be all over it.

RPI-Fan 02-10-2006 10:35 PM

Lando + Confidence = wow

DaddyTorgo 02-10-2006 10:35 PM

yeah i don't think japan has the defensive talent to play the 3-6-1 successfully. or the midfield defensive talent even

RPI-Fan 02-10-2006 10:38 PM

What's interesting (and encouraging?) about this game is that Japan is a very similar team to us. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts, yadda yadda.

And we are smoking them, with them having more of an A-team out there than we do.

DaddyTorgo 02-10-2006 10:38 PM

nice D by noonan there, coming back to cut that off.

DaddyTorgo 02-10-2006 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

And we are smoking them, with them having more of an A-team out there than we do.

i'm not THAT familiar with Japan's players, but they aren't playing any of their overseas players in this match, and they have at least as many overseas players that start for the national team as we do. so I don't know how much more of an A-team this is for them. but like i said, i'm far from an expert.

RPI-Fan 02-10-2006 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo
i'm not THAT familiar with Japan's players, but they aren't playing any of their overseas players in this match, and they have at least as many overseas players that start for the national team as we do. so I don't know how much more of an A-team this is for them. but like i said, i'm far from an expert.


I thought they had fewer overseas guys than we do?

DaddyTorgo 02-10-2006 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan
I thought they had fewer overseas guys than we do?

well that was totally an educated guess by me. but the announcers did say they had "plenty" earlier.

RPI-Fan 02-10-2006 10:45 PM

What a goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

TazFTW 02-10-2006 10:45 PM

That was sweet.

RPI-Fan 02-10-2006 10:46 PM

Twellman >= McBride ???

DaddyTorgo 02-10-2006 10:48 PM

at this point i almost want to say that, but then again we have to keep in mind we havn't seen mcbride in a while.

but yes, twellman is on fire. and dempsey+noonan+twellman work so well together, which enhances that. whereas mcbride+reyna+donovan work so well together which enhances mcbride.

the homer in me wants to say twellman > mcbride, but it's too early

DaddyTorgo 02-10-2006 10:49 PM

dola. that goal was beautiful though. laid off so well by twellman

RPI-Fan 02-10-2006 10:51 PM

The three guys I'd love to see get a lot of time:

Johnson, Rolfe, and Pearce

ISiddiqui 02-10-2006 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo
at this point i almost want to say that, but then again we have to keep in mind we havn't seen mcbride in a while.

but yes, twellman is on fire. and dempsey+noonan+twellman work so well together, which enhances that. whereas mcbride+reyna+donovan work so well together which enhances mcbride.

the homer in me wants to say twellman > mcbride, but it's too early

Also remember that McBride is tied for 8th in the EPL in goal scoring (though lower when you count cup games), and only 1 goal in the Prem behind Rooney.

I think it is way too easy to count Twellman as better than McBride from a couple meaningless friendlies.

Mr. Wednesday 02-10-2006 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan
Twellman >= McBride ???

I don't think so, personally -- McBride has been lighting up the EPL this season with Fulham. Either one of Twellman's assists is certainly in Brian's repertoire.

DaddyTorgo 02-10-2006 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui
Also remember that McBride is tied for 8th in the EPL in goal scoring (though lower when you count cup games), and only 1 goal in the Prem behind Rooney.

I think it is way too easy to count Twellman as better than McBride from a couple meaningless friendlies.

exactly. i didn't know that mcbride was tied for 8th in the EPL. but the point is very true, it's easy to say that about twellman right now as the "flavor of the month" especially as we havn't seen mcbride in a USA jersey in a while now. but mcbride definately has the track record.

ISiddiqui 02-10-2006 11:13 PM

Goal.

DaddyTorgo 02-10-2006 11:14 PM

TWELLLLMANNNNNN

RPI-Fan 02-10-2006 11:15 PM

I'll take the "flavor of the month", as long as it's in June. :)

DaddyTorgo 02-10-2006 11:15 PM

gah. why does balboa want wolff in germany? wolff is no good! grrr

ISiddiqui 02-10-2006 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan
I'll take the "flavor of the month", as long as it's in June. :)

I have a feeling that Italy, Czech Republic, and Ghana are going to be a good deal better than Japan... and won't be playing a 3-6-1 ;).

ISiddiqui 02-10-2006 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo
gah. why does balboa want wolff in germany? wolff is no good! grrr

Then who's the 4th forward? Not like the 4th forward is really going to see much playing time anyway though.

RPI-Fan 02-10-2006 11:19 PM

I get frustrated with Bruce's decisions as much and as fast as anyone, anywhere.

But I just think I'll give up questioning him. He is an amazing international manager.

MikeVick7 02-10-2006 11:19 PM

So is Landon Donovan's last name really pronounced Done-ovan?

This play-by-play guy insists on pronouncing it that way.

Havok 02-10-2006 11:20 PM

Of course im most impressed with Twellman.... i hope he continues to improve.

Also, Lando is just such a stud. Dam fun watching him create chance after chance and his passes/Free Kicks are so freaking accurate.

RPI-Fan 02-10-2006 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVick7
So is Landon Donovan's last name really pronounced Done-ovan?

This play-by-play guy insists on pronouncing it that way.


That's the left-back, Done-i-vint. (Dunivant)

Donovan is Don-uh-vinn, or as I prefer, Don-oh-vinn. :)

ISiddiqui 02-10-2006 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan
I get frustrated with Bruce's decisions as much and as fast as anyone, anywhere.

But I just think I'll give up questioning him. He is an amazing international manager.

I've always wondered why anyone bothered questioning Arena in the first place. What? You want to back to Sampson?

MikeVick7 02-10-2006 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan
That's the left-back, Done-i-vint. (Dunivant)

Donovan is Don-uh-vinn, or as I prefer, Don-oh-vinn. :)

Ahhh...my bad. I'm not familiar with the other dude.

DaddyTorgo 02-10-2006 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui
Then who's the 4th forward? Not like the 4th forward is really going to see much playing time anyway though.

well if that's the case why not give it to Rossi? (sarcasm). or shit...adu (less sarcasm but not serious).

you're right...the 4th forward isn't going to see much if any playing time, but you might as well make it a productive spot.

then again...In Bruce We Trust

Havok 02-10-2006 11:23 PM

Eddie Johnson in the game now... if he can stay healthy i see no reason why he shouldn't be playing somewhere in Europe.

RPI-Fan 02-10-2006 11:23 PM

After a slow start, Noonan has realy found a groove up and down that left flank tonight.

ISiddiqui 02-10-2006 11:24 PM

BAD! BAD DEFENSE! BAD!

RPI-Fan 02-10-2006 11:25 PM

Klein pretty much wore out his (albeit slim) WC chances tonight. Worst performance by a U.S. player this calander year, IMO.

ISiddiqui 02-10-2006 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo
well if that's the case why not give it to Rossi? (sarcasm). or shit...adu (less sarcasm but not serious).

you're right...the 4th forward isn't going to see much if any playing time, but you might as well make it a productive spot.

then again...In Bruce We Trust

I think Adu needs to learn some humility, IMO. He's a great talent, but sometimes he just seems to drift out of games. Let him know that we expect a full 90 minutes from him.

And I'd rather have Wolff than Ching, I think.


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