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Butter 03-15-2006 12:49 PM

ANOTHER NCAA tourney game
 
A friend of mine posted this game for another message board I frequent, and I thought it might be fun to run it here.

Here are the rules:

The premise is simple: Pick five of the 65 NCAA tournament teams. You'll then get points based on the seeding of the team and how many games they win. So while it's good to pick the winner, a couple of well-placed upset-minded teams going far can be just as valuable.

For each game a team you pick wins, you get the same number of points that matches that team's seed. You also get bonus points equal to what round they won in.

Say you pick Duke... If the Blue Devils win their first game, you get 2 points (1 for being a No. 1 seed, and one for the first-round win). A win in their second game nets you an additional three points (1 for the seed, 2 for the second-round win). Should the Dookies go all the way, that would be worth a total of 27 points (2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 = 27).

You might think that picking a high-seeded upset would get you a lot of points. That's true to some extent, but not always. Last year's two tournament darlings, No. 7 West Virginia (Elite Eight) and No. 12 Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Sweet Sixteen) each netted 27 points. The same exact score as National Champs UNC. In fact, the highest scoring team last year was Final Four-bound Michigan State - the No. 5 seed Spartans racked up 30 points ((5 *4) + (1 + 2 + 3 + 4)) on the way to St. Louis.

So to enter - all you have to do is pick five teams and list them in this thread. You have until Thursday, noon Eastern Time - the start of the first games - to get your picks in. I'll compile the points and give scoring updates at the end of each day.

If you want to change your picks, just edit them in your original post. Any post having an edit time of after noon Eastern time Thursday, March 16th will be ineligible.

Please list your picks as follows:

Name of team (Seed) (Ex: Duke (1))

You have 22 hours... go!

Here's each team's seeds to assist you with your picking:

No. 1 seeds
Connecticut
Duke
Memphis
Villanova

No. 2 seeds
Ohio State
Tennessee
Texas
UCLA

No. 3 seeds
Florida
Gonzaga
Iowa
North Carolina

No. 4 seeds
Boston College
Illinois
Kansas
LSU

No. 5 seeds
Nevada
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
Washington

No. 6 seeds
Indiana
Michigan State
Oklahoma
West Virginia

No. 7 seeds
California
Georgetown
Marquette
Wichita State

No. 8 seeds
Arizona
Arkansas
George Washington
Kentucky

No. 9 seeds
Alabama-Birmingham
Bucknell
UNC-Wilmington
Wisconsin

No. 10 seeds
Alabama
N.C. State
Northern Iowa
Seton Hall

No. 11 seeds
George Mason
San Diego State
Southern Illinois
Wisconsin-Milwaukee

No. 12 seeds
Kent State
Montana
Texas A&M
Utah State

No. 13 seeds
Air Force
Bradley
Iona
Pacific

No. 14 seeds
Murray State
Northwestern State (La.)
South Alabama
Xavier

No. 15 seeds
Belmont
Davidson
Pennsylvania
Winthrop

No. 16 seeds
Albany
Monmouth
Oral Roberts
Southern

rafini 03-15-2006 12:57 PM

Connecticut (No. 1)
Texas (No. 2)
UCLA (No. 2)
North Carolina (No. 3)
Pittsburgh (No. 5)

Karlifornia 03-15-2006 01:00 PM

Connecticut (1)
Iona (13)
Florida (3)
Kansas (4)
Arizona (8)

Edited to add seedings

Sublime 2 03-15-2006 01:11 PM

Duke (1)
Uconn (1)
BC (4)
MSU (6)
Florida (3)

timmynausea 03-15-2006 01:21 PM

Georgetown (7)
West Virginia (6)
Michigan State (6)
UCLA (2)
Connecticut (1)

Ramzavail 03-15-2006 01:33 PM

Syracuse
Michigan State
Villanova
UNC
Pitt

Lathum 03-15-2006 01:34 PM

Uconn 1
BC 4
Texas A&M 12
West Virginia 6
Duke 1

Jas_lov 03-15-2006 01:35 PM

Duke (1)
Iowa (3)
BC (4)
Kansas (4)
North Carolina (3)

oliegirl 03-15-2006 01:41 PM

Duke (1)
Villanova (1)
Gonzaga (3)
Michigan State (6)
Illinois (4)

digamma 03-15-2006 01:41 PM

Duke(1)
Connecticut(1)
Kansas(4)
Florida(3)
Utah State(12)

Neuqua 03-15-2006 01:42 PM

Connecticut (1)
UCLA (2)
Southern Illinois (11)
Georgetown (7)
Michigan State (6)

digamma 03-15-2006 01:43 PM

Dola...

I've also seen this done with a couple of control teams thrown in:

The Weenies
Duke
UConn
Villanova
Memphis
UCLA (the #2 seed across from the lowest #1)

The Anti-Weenies
Southern
Albany
Monmouth
Oral Roberts
Belmont (the 15 playing the highest #2)

Radii 03-15-2006 01:44 PM

North Carolina (3)
Texas (2)
Pittsburgh (5)
Villanova (1)
Seton Hall (10)

MJ4H 03-15-2006 01:46 PM

Alabama-Birmingham(9)
Connecticut(1)
Gonzaga(3)
Arkansas(8)
Michigan State(6)

We play a very similar game to this in our group of friends. I never 'fill out a bracket' anymore because I vastly prefer this type of game. However, I think it is much more fun picking 10 teams instead of 5 (this is what we do). Also, we give bonuses for having a final four team and the national champion in your list.

bbor 03-15-2006 02:32 PM

UConn 1

Duke 1

Texas 2

Pitt 5

Michigan state 6

Johnny93g 03-15-2006 02:39 PM

I will stay away from Indiana, way to biased to predict anything for them

Ill take:
Villanova (1)
UConn(1)
Ohio St(2)
Michigan St(6)
Kent St(12)

JeeberD 03-15-2006 02:46 PM

Duke (1)
UConn (1)
Florida (3)
Gonzaga (3)
Bucknell (9)

rkmsuf 03-15-2006 02:56 PM

Pit (5)
Arkansas(8)
Duke(1)
Villanova (1)
UConn (1)

Huckleberry 03-15-2006 03:57 PM

Texas (2)
Kansas (4)
San Diego St. (11)
Connecticut (1)
Arkansas (8)

BuffaloHuskey 03-15-2006 04:19 PM

UConn (1)
Kansas (4)
Mich State (6)
West Virginia (6)
B.C. (4)

ThunderingHERD 03-15-2006 04:29 PM

Duke (1)
UConn (1)
UCLA (2)
BC (4)
UNC (3)

My final four and UNC for the hell of it.

ram 03-15-2006 04:55 PM

Wisconsin-Milwaukee (11)
Michigan State (6)
Boston College (4)
UCLA (2)
UCONN (1)

BillyNYC 03-16-2006 12:04 AM

Duke (1)
Connecticut (1)
Villanova (1)
Florida (3)
Kansas (4)

WVUFAN 03-16-2006 12:21 AM

I'll take:

UConn (1)
George Washington (8)
LSU (4)
Pittsburgh (5)
West Virginia (6)

Eaglesfan27 03-16-2006 12:40 AM

Villanova (1)

Duke (1)

Gonzaga (3)

North Carolina (3)

Syracuse (5)

TazFTW 03-16-2006 12:44 AM

Texas (2)
UCLA (2)
UCONN (1)
Boston College (4)
LSU (4)

kingfc22 03-16-2006 01:10 AM

UCONN (1)
Illinois (4)
LSU (4)
BC (4)
Winthrop (15)

Vince 03-16-2006 01:44 AM

UCLA (2)
Syracuse (5)
West Virginia (6)
George Washington (8)
Bucknell (9)

hoopsguy 03-16-2006 06:55 AM

UCLA (2)
Seton Hall (10)
Wichita State (7)
Pacific (13)
LSU (4)

Samdari 03-16-2006 07:22 AM

Interesting strategy, picking first round opponents.

I'll take
UConn
Iona
Wisconsin Milwaukee
Pitt
Arkansas

hoopsguy 03-16-2006 07:52 AM

The thought there is that I don't think highly of Tennessee, but I think the winner of the 2nd round game has a better chance to get two wins than Winthrop in the first round.

Quik posted in another thread on the notion that there is little value in picking the 15 over the 2, unless it is a weighted pool. Well, this one is weighted and I do think that Tennessee is weak. So I'm taking a shot with the first round teams who would get Tennessee (or perhaps Winthrop) in the 2nd round.

Bottom line, it is a strategy as opposed to a D'oh!

Butter 03-16-2006 07:59 AM

I'm entering too.

Boston College (4)
Kansas (4)
Gonzaga (3)
Utah State (12)
Wichita State (7)

Samdari 03-16-2006 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy
The thought there is that I don't think highly of Tennessee, but I think the winner of the 2nd round game has a better chance to get two wins than Winthrop in the first round.

Quik posted in another thread on the notion that there is little value in picking the 15 over the 2, unless it is a weighted pool. Well, this one is weighted and I do think that Tennessee is weak. So I'm taking a shot with the first round teams who would get Tennessee (or perhaps Winthrop) in the 2nd round.

Bottom line, it is a strategy as opposed to a D'oh!


I said interesting, not awful. Thanks for the insight, that always makes these things more interesting.

Samdari 03-16-2006 08:40 AM

Just looked at the bracket again and decided I'd like to change my 5th team. Is this allowed?

Butter 03-16-2006 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdari
Just looked at the bracket again and decided I'd like to change my 5th team. Is this allowed?


Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rules
If you want to change your picks, just edit them in your original post. Any post having an edit time of after noon Eastern time (Thursday) will be ineligible.


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wade moore 03-16-2006 09:13 AM

I'll give this a (biased) go...

UNCW (9)
Geargetown (7)
Villanova (1)
Tennessee (2)
Memphis (1)

wade moore 03-16-2006 09:14 AM

And a side note:

The brackets that I'm doing with my friends on CBSSportsline use this scoring method for EVERYTHING. So that changes logic for picking your brackets a bit compared to the FOFC Yahoo League, but I just went ahead and copied mine from CBS over to Yahoo.

Butter 03-16-2006 09:18 AM

You can put in 5 teams, Wade.

Kam 03-16-2006 09:35 AM

Villanova (1)
Gonzaga (2)
Florida (3)
Nevada (5)
West Virginia (6)

wade moore 03-16-2006 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69
You can put in 5 teams, Wade.


Oops, thanks, updated my post.

Honolulu_Blue 03-16-2006 09:45 AM

Duke (1)
Boston College (4)
Michigan State (6)
Florida (3)
UCLA (2)

Butter 03-16-2006 11:07 AM

Registration is closed.

Good luck, gentlemen... and oliegirl. :)

Butter 03-16-2006 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69
I'm entering too.

Boston College (4)
Wichita State (7)


w00t!

Samdari 03-16-2006 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdari
Wisconsin Milwaukee


Easily too.

I will go on record right now, however, as saying Iona was a stupid pick.

Butter 03-17-2006 08:06 AM

Day 1 leaders:

Lathum and ram each have 20, thanks to hitting all 3 of their Day 1 picks, including a sub-10 seed winning. I'm happily 3rd with 17 points, but my Utah State pick didn't pan out.

Most picks come today... but it'll get real interesting after the weekend's games.

wade moore 03-17-2006 09:00 AM

Ugh, I might be wishing i picked GMU instead of UNCW.

Lathum 03-17-2006 09:47 AM

woohoo go A&M

hoopsguy 03-18-2006 05:12 PM

Butter, Wichita State is looking solid for us so far ...

Just missed on Pacific - would have been a real boost to have them to at least the 2nd round, particularly with Montana as the opponent.

Lathum 03-18-2006 05:33 PM

go A&M!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hoopsguy 03-18-2006 07:23 PM

Glad to have A&M out (no offense, Lathum) - didn't need to see people racking up points on these guys. I'm in a pay pool for this with the same picks I have here and I expect that some of the others in that one have the Aggies.


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