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Lathum 04-18-2006 06:46 PM

Victor Zambrano sucks
 
I mean really sucks...

I want Kazmir back.

duckman 04-18-2006 06:48 PM

no pics plz k thx

JS19 04-18-2006 07:07 PM

I was just about to go the the MLB thread and post the same thing. I have a pure hatred for this guy.

JS19 04-18-2006 07:15 PM

Another 2 run bomb to Jones. Why can't this guy just tear an arm ligament and call it a season already, or a career.

General Mike 04-18-2006 07:20 PM

Between him and Jorge Julio, I will have pulled out all my hair by the end of May.

Philliesfan980 04-18-2006 07:23 PM

Wow, poor babies, you have 1 bad reliever and 1 bad starting pitcher. 99% of the league envies you.

Pyser 04-18-2006 07:28 PM

we are met fans! we only know how to complain!

those mother f^&*($in braves!!!!

General Mike 04-18-2006 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philliesfan980
Wow, poor babies, you have 1 bad reliever and 1 bad starting pitcher. 99% of the league envies you.


At least 1 of each. Trachsel isnt great, Bannister looks ok, but we'll see when he makes his 2nd loop around the league and the bullpen, well I just don't trust Duaner Sanchez or Darren Oliver or Pedro Feliciano.

ISiddiqui 04-18-2006 07:45 PM

Well, I trust Duaner so far... aside from that, I agree with that post.

Easy Mac 04-18-2006 07:48 PM

If Zambrano could only pitch against the last 4 Braves hitters he'd have a perfect game.

ISiddiqui 04-18-2006 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum
I mean really sucks...

I want Kazmir back.


I have a sick feeling that that trade will be considered similar to the Red Sox dealing Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson when all is said and done :(.

JS19 04-18-2006 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui
I have a sick feeling that that trade will be considered similar to the Red Sox dealing Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson when all is said and done :(.


Yes it will. While Kazmir is off competing for Cy Young awards, we will be watching Zambrano, well hopefully on the DL, but if not, then watching him give up many more bombs to Andruw Jones.

SackAttack 04-18-2006 08:01 PM

Sanchez is going to be a rock-solid reliever for you guys, but yeah, you'd have been better off keeping Seo and dumping Zambrano.

Logan 04-18-2006 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui
I have a sick feeling that that trade will be considered similar to the Red Sox dealing Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson when all is said and done :(.


Disagree. Larry Anderson was actually good at the time and helped the Sox for a bit.

bulletsponge 04-18-2006 08:24 PM

whos Kazmir?

FBPro 04-18-2006 08:41 PM

Whiny Mut fans...OMG......is there anything worse?

bulletsponge 04-18-2006 08:50 PM

Quote:

Whiny Mut fans...OMG......is there anything worse?

Whiney Red soxs fans, whiney Cubs fans

stevew 04-18-2006 09:16 PM

Shit, everyone knows the Mets will pay 20 million a season for Kazmir when he hits FA just to save face.

sterlingice 04-18-2006 09:24 PM

Whiny Yankee fans?

SI

ISiddiqui 04-18-2006 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SackAttack
Sanchez is going to be a rock-solid reliever for you guys, but yeah, you'd have been better off keeping Seo and dumping Zambrano.


Another head scratcher! Why let Seo go?! Maybe because it would have looked back to dump Zambrano, basically admitting the Mets let Kazmir go for nothing.

JS19 04-18-2006 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletsponge
whos Kazmir?


One of these "can't miss" prospects the Mets gave away to Tampa Bay. He's supposed to be a stud, in his early career I would say he's looked pretty good, one thing is for sure, he won't/can't be worse than Zambrano.

ISiddiqui 04-18-2006 10:52 PM

Last year went 10-9 with a 3.77 ERA (114 ERA+) in basically his first full year.

bulletsponge 04-19-2006 12:45 AM

Quote:

One of these "can't miss" prospects the Mets gave away to Tampa Bay. He's supposed to be a stud, in his early career I would say he's looked pretty good, one thing is for sure, he won't/can't be worse than Zambrano

Ive learned 1 lesson from playing sports managment games, never ever trade away young studs. especialy when your desperate.

JS19 04-19-2006 01:17 AM

Too bad Jim Duquette (i think he was the GM at the time) didn't learn this. Worst part is the Mets are still paying for this mistake every time Zambrano takes the mound.

panerd 04-19-2006 07:50 AM

I drafted Heilman in my fantasy league expecting him to be the 5th starter. Looks like he is blowing that opportunity by being a rock solid middle reliever. Any chance of him getting some starts?

General Mike 04-19-2006 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panerd
I drafted Heilman in my fantasy league expecting him to be the 5th starter. Looks like he is blowing that opportunity by being a rock solid middle reliever. Any chance of him getting some starts?


Not if Bannister keeps pitching well.

ISiddiqui 04-19-2006 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Mike
Not if Bannister keeps pitching well.


Are you forgetting about Zambrano? Randolph is not going to be so thick headed to let him continue to pitch if he continues sucking it up.

Qwikshot 04-19-2006 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum
I mean really sucks...

I want Kazmir back.


I agree, it was a great song...


TazFTW 04-19-2006 05:18 PM

Go Hudson!

CraigSca 04-19-2006 05:28 PM

So, I'm guessing the wheels have fallen off the Met bandwagon?

ISiddiqui 04-19-2006 05:48 PM

They are 10-4... you expect them to win everything?

General Mike 04-19-2006 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigSca
So, I'm guessing the wheels have fallen off the Met bandwagon?



Yeah, the wheels fell off 5 miles back. :rolleyes:

FBPro 04-19-2006 08:51 PM

Love it, love it, love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lathum 04-23-2006 03:16 PM

Round 2

First inning home run on an 0-2 pitch.

General Mike 04-23-2006 04:20 PM

Christ he sucks.

Captain2711 04-23-2006 04:24 PM

Gotta love letting the pitcher get on with 2 outs and then subsequently loading the bases and giving up a homer to the team with the least amount of homers in the major. Bite the bullet Omar. Peterson can't fix him. Sign Kazmir as a free agent in 5 years.

Go Mets....and take Zambrano with you.

Logan 04-23-2006 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain2711
Gotta love letting the pitcher get on with 2 outs and then subsequently loading the bases and giving up a homer to the team with the least amount of homers in the major. Bite the bullet Omar. Peterson can't fix him. Sign Kazmir as a free agent in 5 years.

Go Mets....and take Zambrano with you.


The argument is always "the Mets keep him in the rotation because otherwise, they would have nothing to show for the Kazmir trade."

Here's my stance: If we didn't have to see him blow every start, we wouldn't be reminded of how much he sucks, and how little we got for Kazmir. Out of sight, out of mind...we'll move on. It's hard to move on when you have zero confidence in your starter every 5 days.

ISiddiqui 04-23-2006 04:31 PM

At some point you just have drop your losses and let them go. Put Heilman in the rotation instead. Maybe Zambrano can hang out in the bullpen (but rarely used) if they don't want to get rid of him entirely.

JS19 04-23-2006 04:34 PM

He's gotta go, thats all there is to it. The last place I would want is to see him is in the bullpen. At least in the rotation he can suck for 4 innings, giving us 5 to get back in the game. Put him in the pen, it goes without saying that he will blow it, leaving us with on 2 or 3 innings to get the lead back.

Captain2711 04-23-2006 04:44 PM

Maybe a package trade of Zambrano, Julio and Jose Valentin (another waste of a roster spot)? There's got to be another complete loser Peterson can "save."

General Mike 04-23-2006 04:47 PM

They traded 2 pitchers who are so much better than Zambrano in the offseason, one who they got nothing back for, and now I have to watch this piece of crap every 5 days?

Captain2711 04-23-2006 05:00 PM

It's official!! Victor Zambrano now has ERA worse than Jorge Julio.

Logan 04-23-2006 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS19
He's gotta go, thats all there is to it. The last place I would want is to see him is in the bullpen. At least in the rotation he can suck for 4 innings, giving us 5 to get back in the game.


Just like today. We're back to down 5-4 in the 6th.

Captain2711 05-01-2006 06:22 PM

1 inning down... only two runners reached.

JS19 05-01-2006 08:24 PM

Dont care what happened tonight, he still sucks.

Fouts 05-01-2006 09:38 PM

Please pay homage to Chan Ho Park when starting any "pitcher sucks" threads.

Fouts 05-06-2006 12:38 AM

Dola,

Zambrano vs Park tonight, neither pitcher allowed a run. Padres win in extra innings 1-0.

SackAttack 05-06-2006 12:41 AM

And somewhere in Hell, Satan turns up the thermostat a few degrees to ward off the creeping chill.

ShaefIllini 05-06-2006 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts
Dola,

Zambrano vs Park tonight, neither pitcher allowed a run. Padres win in extra innings 1-0.


Factually correct, but it was Carlos Zambrano. And Park not allowing a run against that Cub lineup shouldn't necessarily be looked at as a success, maybe just 'expected'.

Fouts 05-06-2006 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaefIllini
Factually correct, but it was Carlos Zambrano. And Park not allowing a run against that Cub lineup shouldn't necessarily be looked at as a success, maybe just 'expected'.


My bad, wrong Zambrano, but Chan Ho was on.


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