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Galaril 04-22-2006 08:41 PM

New Movie: Star Trek 11 in 2008
 
Star Trek the early years sounds promising. With the guy from Lost writing and direct this could be good.

hhttp://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/e...567498000.html

amdaily 04-22-2006 08:44 PM

Ya to no Berman
Na to early years
and Na to Abrams. I hate the fucker/ What's his name from B5 should have got his shot at Trek. Or that other guy who is working on 24 now.

bosshogg23 04-22-2006 08:45 PM

Read about that yesterday, good news IMO. Glad to see the franchise didnt take several years off like was speculated.

Franklinnoble 04-22-2006 08:45 PM

Bah. Sounds like 'Star Trek: 90210'

amdaily 04-22-2006 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble
Bah. Sounds like 'Star Trek: 90210'


Indeed. I hope it fails so it will finally take several, needed, years off.

Schmidty 04-22-2006 08:49 PM

Crap news.

I want more ST: TNG or even a ST: DS9 (my favorite) movie.

DaddyTorgo 04-22-2006 08:51 PM

read about that yesterday too. UGH. if you wanna talk about putting a nail in the coffin of the franchise, that oughta do it. UGH.

amdaily 04-22-2006 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty
Crap news.

I want more ST: TNG or even a ST:DS9 (my favorite) movie.


Agreed. The one series (DS9) that was interesting from the start to the end and it gets no respect :mad:

Young Drachma 04-22-2006 09:40 PM

There needs to be DS9 movie, with Sisko back where he belongs. But this time, as an Admiral. After all, the guy ran a whole station and they had the nerve to originally not have him as a Captain.

Anyway...you're right. It gets no respect at all.

Coffee Warlord 04-22-2006 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amdaily
Ya to no Berman
Na to early years
and Na to Abrams. I hate the fucker/ What's his name from B5 should have got his shot at Trek. Or that other guy who is working on 24 now.


J Michael Straczynski was the B5 dude. And what sucks is he actually expressed interest in doing a Trek series not too long ago. And was shot down.

Fuckers. He coulda done it quite well.

But yes. DS9 REALLY improved as it went along, mainly, I think, because it took a page out of B5: Continual plotlines. For the most part, no particle of the week, no deflector dishes, etc etc. That, and they finally started making the Federation falllable.

Franklinnoble 04-22-2006 10:58 PM

I agree that Star Trek needs a few more years off. I wouldn't miss it if it took the next decade off, and let some new blood come into the picture.

Coffee Warlord 04-22-2006 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble
I agree that Star Trek needs a few more years off. I wouldn't miss it if it took the next decade off, and let some new blood come into the picture.


I don't even think it necessarily needs time off. It just needs 1) a fresh writer/director and 2) to not have ANYTHING to do with the old characters.

Abe Sargent 04-22-2006 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by amdaily
Agreed. The one series (DS9) that was interesting from the fourth or fifth season to the end and it gets no respect :mad:



FIXED!



-Anxiety

bosshogg23 04-22-2006 11:28 PM

Im curious what people think time off would do to improve the quality or lack thereof with Star Trek.

M GO BLUE!!! 04-22-2006 11:41 PM

Quote:

In its article Friday that broke the story, Variety didn't use the "P" word, but the trade paper made the Abrams movie sound very much like one, noting it'll show Kirk and Spock's "first meeting at Starfleet Academy and [their] first outer space mission."

Maintaining calm is author Win Scott Eckert, who has been collecting, compiling and otherwise straightening out Starfleet chronology since he was a boy back in the 1970s, and has the 184-page Star Trek Annotated Timeline to show for the effort. He, for one, is looking forward to the new movie, and isn't worried it'll wreak havoc with Kirk and Spock as fans know them.

"There is really very little that is Trek "canon" [meaning, info gleaned from the TV shows and movies] about these characters' early careers," Eckert said in an email interview Friday. "So, I can't see any reason why this prequel would not fit into canonical Trek continuity."
Maybe they kiss..

sabotai 04-22-2006 11:44 PM

They need to make a movie involving Q!

SFL Cat 04-22-2006 11:50 PM

I think they need to give Star Trek a 10-15 year break. Its not like they need to do anything new for a while. After all, they have reruns from 5 series now that they can run...over...and over....and over.....and over.

bbor 04-22-2006 11:53 PM

Dork alert!!!!!!!

bbor 04-22-2006 11:54 PM

Dola

I'm really looking forward to this movie.

I own all of them

:D

bosshogg23 04-22-2006 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor
Dola

I'm really looking forward to this movie.

I own all of them

:D


But have you visited Star Trek Experience? :cheesy:

Bad-example 04-22-2006 11:59 PM

Voyager is the series that really gets no respect. Truly a shame, because some of the writing was superb.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty
I want more ST: TNG or even a ST: DS9 (my favorite) movie.


I agree that a Next Gen/DS9/Voyager era movie would be the best choice. They could use characters from all three series.

A Q movie, though...well, I am not sure how they would explain how the immortal Q (John DeLancie) turned into a 50+ year old mushy potato of a man. Maybe if they used a new actor.

SFL Cat 04-23-2006 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bbor
Dork alert!!!!!!!


Friggin' Klingon.

Galaril 04-23-2006 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad-example
Voyager is the series that really gets no respect. Truly a shame, because some of the writing was superb.

I agree that a Next Gen/DS9/Voyager era movie would be the best choice. They could use characters from all three series.

A Q movie, though...well, I am not sure how they would explain how the immortal Q (John DeLancie) turned into a 50+ year old mushy potato of a man. Maybe if they used a new actor.



I miss Seven of 9.;)

Bad-example 04-23-2006 12:16 AM

Heh...me too. The episode where the doctor tries to coach her on dating was great!

saldana 04-23-2006 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bosshogg23
But have you visited Star Trek Experience? :cheesy:


yes. yes i have.

anyway, i cant wait to see who they come up with to play a teenage kirk and spock...i swear to god if sean william scott gets anywhere near this movie i am taking my starfleet academy bumper sticker off (ok, im not that bad, but i have been to the star trek exp. and thought it was awesome)

Fonzie 04-23-2006 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sabotai
They need to make a movie involving Q!


Yes yes.

This was all but promised in the series finale when he said, "See you...out there!"

IwasHere 04-23-2006 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble
Bah. Sounds like 'Star Trek: 90210'

I thought someone already tried this idea with Space Above and Beyond?

JeffNights 04-23-2006 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by IwasHere
I thought someone already tried this idea with Space Above and Beyond?


Now Am I alone when I say Space was not that bad of a show?

TazFTW 04-23-2006 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffNights
Now Am I alone when I say Space was not that bad of a show?


Nope, I liked it.

ice4277 04-23-2006 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bosshogg23
Im curious what people think time off would do to improve the quality or lack thereof with Star Trek.


I guess I could understand, maybe from a commercial standpoint, that a long time off could build more desire for a new product. Right now it seems there is more ambivalence than anything else.

But from a creative standpoint, yeah, I don't think time would be the difference. They just need to come at things from a new angle, catch up with the times. The last couple series seem very sterile and boring compared with newer fare such as Firefly and Galactica. They definitely need a new group of people in charge.

IwasHere 04-23-2006 08:49 AM

Do we have any readers out there. I still enjoy the books very much.

Reading the Dominion Wars and what Picard and his crew were up to during this time was great. I also really enjoy the Cross over books. Q-Squared was fun seeing how the Squire of Gothos was actually a young Q in training. Peter David is my favorite Trek author.


BTW. I am still waiting for my Quantum Leap movie!

Barkeep49 04-23-2006 09:10 AM

What I find interesting is that this isn't the first rumored Trek project. That was the one where they were going to bring in the guy from Gladiator, but the script he turned in was so terrible they shelved the whole project.

sterlingice 04-23-2006 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ice4277
But from a creative standpoint, yeah, I don't think time would be the difference. They just need to come at things from a new angle, catch up with the times. The last couple series seem very sterile and boring compared with newer fare such as Firefly and Galactica. They definitely need a new group of people in charge.


That I'd definitely agree with. Enterprise should have been good. The premise was there- show what happened at the very beginning: people go into space, people meet all the characters for the first time, all the aliens, etc. And it just never really goes anywhere- it just lacked writing and directing skill.

Voyager, well, that was kindof crappy to begin with. Had a few good episodes, but, on the whole, when you're cross promoting with your big chested character and WWF, which your station also carries, it's just time to give up.

(Tho I love how people vastly overrate Firefly, it's almost comical.)

SI

Schmidty 04-23-2006 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice
(Tho I love how people vastly overrate Firefly, it's almost comical.)

SI


I totally agree with that. It's a decent show, but people act as if it's the greatest show in television history.

kcchief19 04-23-2006 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana
anyway, i cant wait to see who they come up with to play a teenage kirk and spock...i swear to god if sean william scott gets anywhere near this movie i am taking my starfleet academy bumper sticker off (ok, im not that bad, but i have been to the star trek exp. and thought it was awesome)

I think the worst case scenario would be Ben Affleck.

I have also been to The Star Trek Experience and I thought it was pretty cool. I was three days removed from a bout with stomach flu, so it's a miracle that after eating lunch there I was able to make it through the ride without incident.

kcchief19 04-23-2006 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ice4277
I guess I could understand, maybe from a commercial standpoint, that a long time off could build more desire for a new product. Right now it seems there is more ambivalence than anything else.

But from a creative standpoint, yeah, I don't think time would be the difference. They just need to come at things from a new angle, catch up with the times. The last couple series seem very sterile and boring compared with newer fare such as Firefly and Galactica. They definitely need a new group of people in charge.

See, that's why I'm actually encouraged by this. While I'm not completely sold on Abrams as being the guy to pull it off (Armageddon, anyone?), I think this is the direction to go -- get someone with creativity outside the Star Trek family and play in a new sandbox.

I hear the calls for a DS9 or Voyager movie, but those are movies that wouldn't have any appeal outside the hardcore fans -- which we have determined is a $43 million gross based on the last outing of the TNG. There is no appeal outside the diehards for this one. A fresh take from a hot, creative writer might be able to pull in the more casual fans.

The thing about going back to the past is I think it makes making the movie appeal to fans without being distracting is impossible. I think that bothered people about Enterprise -- I know it bothered fans I talked to. The original series had low-grade graphics and sets -- If you make a $500,000 Star Trek movie today, it's going to look like it took place a thousand years after the original series. To keep fans from bitching about how the movie looks out of chronology, the story and creativity has to be out of the park.

IwasHere 04-23-2006 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19
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The thing about going back to the past is I think it makes making the movie appeal to fans without being distracting is impossible. I think that bothered people about Enterprise -- I know it bothered fans I talked to. The original series had low-grade graphics and sets -- If you make a $500,000 Star Trek movie today, it's going to look like it took place a thousand years after the original series. To keep fans from bitching about how the movie looks out of chronology, the story and creativity has to be out of the park.

I don't get this.

I know the Jetsons are set in the far off future of 2003, but I still watch them.

samifan24 04-23-2006 03:34 PM

I grew up watching ST:TNG and loved the run from about season 3 onward. However I have very little interest in watching a "prequel." I'm excited that Berman is not associated with the project, though.

Coffee Warlord 04-23-2006 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffNights
Now Am I alone when I say Space was not that bad of a show?


Ups and downs. The first few episodes were excellent, it hit a major rut in the middle, and I don't remember the last few episodes before it croaked.

BrianD 04-23-2006 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty
I totally agree with that. It's a decent show, but people act as if it's the greatest show in television history.


It was a very good show with great potential. The fact that it died an untimely death will make it seem even better. People love a fallen hero.

Raiders Army 04-23-2006 04:49 PM

I guess the people who dressed up as stormtroopers for Stars Wars have something to look forward to besides the next Harry Potter movie.

bosshogg23 04-23-2006 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army
I guess the people who dressed up as stormtroopers for Stars Wars have something to look forward to besides the next Harry Potter movie.


Damn im watching Harry Potter currently, own some Star Trek movies and dig Star Wars.

Someone trying to say something? :D

DaddyTorgo 04-23-2006 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army
guess the people who dressed up in black and gold for another losing season have nothing to look forward to.


fixed it for ya :D

BrianD 04-23-2006 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bosshogg23
Damn im watching Harry Potter currently, own some Star Trek movies and dig Star Wars.

Someone trying to say something? :D


And I'm currently on Episode 4 of a full Star Wars marathon. There is nothing wrong with us. :)

Raiders Army 04-23-2006 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bosshogg23
Damn im watching Harry Potter currently, own some Star Trek movies and dig Star Wars.

Someone trying to say something? :D

Maybe something about those people who dress up and wait in line for movie premieres. ;)

Raiders Army 04-23-2006 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo
fixed it for ya :D

We'll see. Talk to me in December.

Kodos 08-22-2006 09:14 AM

http://imdb.com/title/tt0796366/fullcredits

I missed this the first time around. Matt Damon as Kirk?


And to echo the other Q fans, we need a Q movie! And I would definitely see another Next Generation movie.

Fonzie 08-22-2006 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos
http://imdb.com/title/tt0796366/fullcredits

I missed this the first time around. Matt Damon as Kirk?


And to echo the other Q fans, we need a Q movie! And I would definitely see another Next Generation movie.


A Q movie must happen. Make it so!

Bee 08-22-2006 11:43 AM

Matt Damon is too good of an actor to play Kirk.

kcchief19 08-22-2006 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos
http://imdb.com/title/tt0796366/fullcredits

I missed this the first time around. Matt Damon as Kirk?


And to echo the other Q fans, we need a Q movie! And I would definitely see another Next Generation movie.


Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchief19
I think the worst case scenario would be Ben Affleck.


Although I think Damon would be hated by the fanboy community, I don't hate the idea of Damon as Kirk for one major reason -- he's not Ben Affleck.


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