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Swaggs 05-16-2006 11:09 PM

College Football: Coach "Hot Seat" Ratings
 
Saw this on the WVU board and thought it was worthy of passing along, since we are, sadly, so far from football season right now.

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Quote:

Hot Seat Rating Key
Rating What it means Coaches
0-0.5 Don't even think it -- can't be touched 33
1-1.5 Very safe -- change highly unlikely 39
2-2.5 Safe -- solid position 31
3-3.5 On the bubble -- you never know 15
4-4.5 Warm seat -- feeling the pressure 0
5 On the hot seat -- it's time to win now 1


Team Coach Yrs Rating
Air Force DeBerry 23 3.5
Akron Brookhart 3 1
Alabama Shula 4 1.5
Arizona M. Stoops 3 2
Arizona State Koetter 6 2.5
Arkansas Nutt 9 2.5
Arkansas State Roberts 5 1.5
Army Ross 3 1
Auburn Tuberville 8 0.5
Ball State Hoke 4 3
Baylor Morriss 4 2
Boise State Peterson 1 1
Boston College O'Brien 10 0.5
Bowling Green Brandon 4 1
Buffalo Gill 1 1
BYU Mendenhall 2 2
Cal Tedford 5 0.5
Central Florida O'Leary 3 0.5
Central Michigan Kelly 3 3
Cincinnati Dantonio 3 1.5
Clemson T.Bowden 8 2
Colorado Hawkins 1 1
Colorado State Lubick 14 2
Connecticut Edsall 8 1
Duke Roof 4 3.5
East Carolina S. Holtz 2 1.5
Eastern Michigan Genyk 3 3
Florida Meyer 2 1.5
Florida Atlantic Schnellenberger 6 1
Florida International Strock 5 1.5
Florida State B. Bowden 31 1
Fresno State P. Hill 10 1
Georgia Richt 5 0.5
Georgia Tech Gailey 5 3
Hawaii Jones 8 1
Houston Briles 4 1
Idaho Erickson 1 1
Illinois Zook 2 3
Indiana Hoeppner 2 1
Iowa Ferentz 8 0
Iowa State McCarney 10 1.5
Kansas Mangino 4 3
Kansas State Prince 1 0
Kent State Martin 3 3
Kentucky Brooks 4 5
La.-Lafayette Bustle 5 2
La.-Monroe Weatherbie 4 2.5
Louisiana Tech Bicknell 8 1
Louisville Petrino 4 1
LSU Miles 2 0
Marshall Snyder 2 1.5
Maryland Friedgen 6 2.5
Memphis West 6 0
Miami (Fla.) Coker 6 3
Miami (Ohio) Montgomery 2 0.5
Michigan Carr 12 2.5
Michigan St. J.L. Smith 4 2.5
Middle Tennessee Stockstill 1 0
Minnesota Mason 11 2
Mississippi Orgeron 2 1
Mississippi State Croom 3 2
Missouri Pinkel 6 3
N.C. State Amato 6 2.5
Navy P.Johnson 5 0
Nebraska Callahan 3 1.5
Nevada Ault 22 0.5
New Mexico Long 9 1
New Mexico St. Mumme 2 3
North Carolina Bunting 6 3
North Texas Dickey 9 2
Northern Illinois Novak 11 0
Northwestern Walker 8 1
Notre Dame Weis 2 0
Ohio Solich 2 2.5
Ohio State Tressel 6 0
Oklahoma B. Stoops 8 0
Oklahoma State Gundy 2 1
Oregon Bellotti 12 0
Oregon State Riley 4 2
Penn State Paterno 41 1
Pittsburgh Wannstedt 2 2.5
Purdue Tiller 10 2.5
Rice Graham 1 1.5
Rutgers Schiano 6 0.5
San Diego State Long 1 1
San Jose State Tomey 2 1.5
SMU Bennett 5 2.5
South Carolina Spurrier 2 0
South Florida Leavitt 10 0
Southern Cal Carroll 6 0
Southern Miss Bower 16 0.5
Stanford Harris 2 2
Syracuse Robinson 2 2.5
Texas Christian Patterson 5 0
Temple Golden 1 1
Tennessee Fulmer 15 2.5
Texas Brown 9 0
Texas A&M Franchione 4 3.5
Texas Tech Leach 7 0.5
Toledo Amstutz 6 0
Troy Blakeney 16 0
Tulane Scelfo 8 0.5
Tulsa Kragthorpe 4 0
UAB W.Brown 12 1.5
UCLA Dorrell 4 1.5
UNLV Sanford 2 1
Utah Whittingham 2 1.5
Utah State Guy 2 2.5
UTEP Price 3 0
Vanderbilt B. Johnson 5 2.5
Virginia Groh 6 2.5
Virginia Tech Beamer 19 0
Wake Forest Grobe 6 2
Washington Willingham 2 3
Washington State Doba 4 2.5
West Virginia Rodriguez 6 0
Western Michigan Cubit 2 2
Wisconsin Bielema 1 1
Wyoming Glenn 4 2.5


Swaggs 05-16-2006 11:10 PM

Dolacrap.

Anyone know which tags I can use to format that better?

TazFTW 05-17-2006 12:01 AM

Kentucky is the must win? They know they're Kentucky, right?

Swaggs 05-17-2006 12:18 AM

Kind of lame to consider that only one head coach is legitimately on the hot seat.

I have to think NC State's Chuck Amato (2.5) is far more likely to be fired with a sub-.500 record than, say, Maryland's Ralph Friedgen (2.5) or UNC's John Bunting (3.0).

I also think that Miami's Larry Coker (3.0) and Tennessee's Phil Fulmer (2.5), and probably Michigan's Lloyd Carr (2.5), could not survive a season with 7 or fewer wins next year.

dawgfan 05-17-2006 12:25 AM

Hmm. I'm going to have to disagree with Bellotti getting a "0" at Oregon - he was taking an awful lot of heat going into last year, having come off his first losing season. He's been by far the most successful Head Coach at Oregon, but with success comes raised expectations. There have been whispers for a few years now that Bellotti's greatest success was due to the presence of Jeff Tedford on his staff. Finding (and keeping) good assistants like Gary Crowton would appear to be key to Bellotti maintaining his history of success.

I'm not saying he's on the hot seat by any means, but I think he's more like a 1.0 on their scale than a 0.0 - he's quite safe, but he's not completely untouchable either. I'd also say that Bill Doba at WSU is probably closer to a 3.0 than a 2.5 - there is growing disappointment around Pullman about the decline of the team since Mike Price left. I think he got Ty Willingham at the UW correct.

On the whole, I think the ratings were a bit too conservative.

Ksyrup 05-17-2006 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TazFTW
Kentucky is the must win? They know they're Kentucky, right?


But with me moving into town, expectations will rise suddenly.

JeeberD 05-17-2006 08:01 AM

Uhhhh...Mike Price is "on the bubble"? Who the fuck is the moron who made this list? CMP has become an icon in El Paso and it would take some sort of extremely serious meltdown before he was ever fired...

JeeberD 05-17-2006 08:07 AM

Dola-

Oops...the formatting got me. The 3 is number of years on the job, not his rating. That 0 looks much, MUCH better. :o

Huckleberry 05-17-2006 08:53 AM






Team



CoachYrsRating
Air ForceDeBerry233.5
AkronBrookhart31
AlabamaShula41.5
ArizonaM. Stoops32
Arizona StateKoetter62.5
ArkansasNutt92.5
Arkansas StateRoberts51.5
ArmyRoss31
AuburnTuberville80.5
Ball StateHoke43
BaylorMorriss42
Boise StatePeterson11
Boston CollegeO'Brien100.5
Bowling GreenBrandon41
BuffaloGill11
BYUMendenhall22
CalTedford50.5
Central FloridaO'Leary30.5
Central MichiganKelly33
CincinnatiDantonio31.5
ClemsonT.Bowden82
ColoradoHawkins11
Colorado StateLubick142
ConnecticutEdsall81
DukeRoof43.5
East CarolinaS. Holtz21.5
Eastern MichiganGenyk33
FloridaMeyer21.5
Florida AtlanticSchnellenberger61
Florida InternationalStrock51.5
Florida StateB. Bowden311
Fresno StateP. Hill101
GeorgiaRicht50.5
Georgia TechGailey53
HawaiiJones81
HoustonBriles41
IdahoErickson11
IllinoisZook23
IndianaHoeppner21
IowaFerentz80
Iowa StateMcCarney101.5
KansasMangino43
Kansas StatePrince10
Kent StateMartin33
KentuckyBrooks45
La.-LafayetteBustle52
La.-MonroeWeatherbie42.5
Louisiana TechBicknell81
LouisvillePetrino41
LSUMiles20
MarshallSnyder21.5
MarylandFriedgen62.5
MemphisWest60
Miami (FL)Coker63
Miami (OH)Montgomery20.5
MichiganCarr122.5
Michigan StateSmith42.5
Middle TennesseeStockstill10
MinnesotaMason112
MississippiOrgeron21
Mississippi StateCroom32
MissouriPinkel63
N.C. StateAmato62.5
NavyP.Johnson50
NebraskaCallahan31.5
NevadaAult220.5
New MexicoLong91
New Mexico StateMumme23
North CarolinaBunting63
North TexasDickey92
Northern IllinoisNovak110
NorthwesternWalker81
Notre DameWeis20
OhioSolich22.5
Ohio StateTressel60
OklahomaB. Stoops80
Oklahoma StateGundy21
OregonBellotti120
Oregon StateRiley42
Penn StatePaterno411
PittsburghWannstedt22.5
PurdueTiller102.5
RiceGraham11.5
RutgersSchiano60.5
San Diego StateLong11
San Jose StateTomey21.5
SMUBennett52.5
South CarolinaSpurrier20
South FloridaLeavitt100
Southern CalCarroll60
Southern MissBower160.5
StanfordHarris22
SyracuseRobinson22.5
Texas ChristianPatterson50
TempleGolden11
TennesseeFulmer152.5
TexasBrown90
Texas A&MFranchione43.5
Texas TechLeach70.5
ToledoAmstutz60
TroyBlakeney160
TulaneScelfo80.5
TulsaKragthorpe40
UABW.Brown121.5
UCLADorrell41.5
UNLVSanford21
UtahWhittingham21.5
Utah StateGuy22.5
UTEPPrice30
VanderbiltB. Johnson52.5
VirginiaGroh62.5
Virginia TechBeamer190
Wake ForestGrobe62
WashingtonWillingham23
Washington StateDoba42.5
West VirginiaRodriguez60
Western MichiganCubit22
WisconsinBielema11
Wyoming Glenn42.5

MalcPow 05-17-2006 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs
Kind of lame to consider that only one head coach is legitimately on the hot seat.

I have to think NC State's Chuck Amato (2.5) is far more likely to be fired with a sub-.500 record than, say, Maryland's Ralph Friedgen (2.5) or UNC's John Bunting (3.0).

I also think that Miami's Larry Coker (3.0) and Tennessee's Phil Fulmer (2.5), and probably Michigan's Lloyd Carr (2.5), could not survive a season with 7 or fewer wins next year.


Completely agree. I think one of those big jobs will open up this year, and Carr might be in a lot of trouble with Notre Dame, Michigan St, and Ohio St all looking like they will have very good teams. There's a good chance they'll lose all three of those games, and they might get smoked in a couple of them. Some people need to really step up or Carr is going to have problems.

scooper 05-17-2006 09:12 AM

Many wanted Brooks removed at Kentucky last year. It was kind of expected, thus the very hot seat this year.

I don't think their fans expect SEC titles, but they expect some competitiveness. The shift of football power in KY to Louisville kind of irks them. For all their troubles, they actually have a decent passionate football fanbase in KY.

mckerney 05-17-2006 09:21 AM

Team Coach Yrs Rating
Minnesota Mason 11 2 :(

cartman 05-17-2006 09:21 AM

And Franchione is definitely in the 4 to 4.5 range at A&M. If he doesn't go at least 9-3 this season, and not get blown out by Texas or Oklahoma, he's probably gone.

ice4277 05-17-2006 10:42 AM

This list is teh suck. Both Carr and Smith are on the hot seats at U of M and MSU.

Wolfpack 05-17-2006 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs
Kind of lame to consider that only one head coach is legitimately on the hot seat.

I have to think NC State's Chuck Amato (2.5) is far more likely to be fired with a sub-.500 record than, say, Maryland's Ralph Friedgen (2.5) or UNC's John Bunting (3.0).

I also think that Miami's Larry Coker (3.0) and Tennessee's Phil Fulmer (2.5), and probably Michigan's Lloyd Carr (2.5), could not survive a season with 7 or fewer wins next year.


Chuck's probably more at 3.0, maybe 3.5. However, even if he went sub-.500, I don't think he'll be fired this year (unless it was a collapse of 3-8 or worse proportions). It'd be too close on the heels of the Sendek departure and the beating the school took nationally from that.

The Fridge had a superb start to his time at Maryland, so I don't think he should be in any trouble for a little bit yet. His main concern is winning with his own recruits. He proved he could win a lot with his predecessor's recruits, but not since the team largely was built with his kids.

Bunting ought to be higher, maybe 3.5-4, because he's come rather close to getting booted, but managed to have a decent year when he needed it to save his bacon.

scooper 05-17-2006 01:03 PM

Bunting has the beginnings of a nice recruiting class going. It's amazing what kind of time that can buy a coach.

Schmidty 05-17-2006 01:07 PM

John L. Smith is a 5. No question. The AD talks in circles when asked about Smith's future.

If MSU doesn't show marked improvement this season and go to a decent bowl game, Smith is gone.

General Mike 05-17-2006 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooper
Bunting has the beginnings of a nice recruiting class going. It's amazing what kind of time that can buy a coach.


We'll see what happens after September 2nd. :D

scooper 05-17-2006 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Mike
We'll see what happens after September 2nd. :D


Well, that's two out of conference losses for them.

Swaggs 05-17-2006 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfpack
Chuck's probably more at 3.0, maybe 3.5. However, even if he went sub-.500, I don't think he'll be fired this year (unless it was a collapse of 3-8 or worse proportions). It'd be too close on the heels of the Sendek departure and the beating the school took nationally from that.

The Fridge had a superb start to his time at Maryland, so I don't think he should be in any trouble for a little bit yet. His main concern is winning with his own recruits. He proved he could win a lot with his predecessor's recruits, but not since the team largely was built with his kids.

Bunting ought to be higher, maybe 3.5-4, because he's come rather close to getting booted, but managed to have a decent year when he needed it to save his bacon.


I think that, outside of scandel or health problems, there is absolutely no way that Bunting is fired this season. He has the makings of an amazing recruiting class in place, he is an alum, and is only in his third year. I think both Bunting and the Fridge are free and clear this season, but if their teams are terrible this season, they will be in danger next year.

Amato, just from the local news and board I read, seems like he is in a make-or-break type situation right now. He could secure himself nicely with a 9+ win season (which is in the realm of possibility) or get himself fired with a 3 or 4 win season (which is also possible).

Wolfpack 05-17-2006 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs
I think that, outside of scandel or health problems, there is absolutely no way that Bunting is fired this season. He has the makings of an amazing recruiting class in place, he is an alum, and is only in his third year. I think both Bunting and the Fridge are free and clear this season, but if their teams are terrible this season, they will be in danger next year.


Third? Try sixth year upcoming. He took over in 2001. Combined record over five years? 24-36.

Oh, and Carolina's classes are always, always overrated. Two words: "Ronald Curry".

kingnebwsu 05-18-2006 01:04 AM

Can anyone count the number of people rated 4 or higher? Reminds me of an episode of "The Critic"...

Duke Phillips: "Your job is to rate movies on a scale of good to excellent."

Jay Sherman: "What if a movie's bad?"

Duke Phillips: "That's what good's for."


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