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Blade6119 06-01-2006 01:03 PM

Gotta love Democrats
 
Reid defends accepting free ringside tickets
Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid is broadly defending accepting free ringside boxing tickets from the Nevada Athletic Commission while the state agency was trying to influence him on federal boxing regulations.

The senior senator from Nevada is also defending several actions he took that benefited disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff's clients and partners as they donated to him.

Reid, a former boxer and boxing judge, said he feels he did nothing wrong.

An Associated Press report found Reid took free seats for three big Las Vegas fights between 2003 and 2005 -- as he was pressing legislation to increase government oversight of the sport.

One measure would have formed a federal boxing commission that might have usurped Nevada Athletic Commission authority.

Reid also had separate meetings in June 2003 in his Senate offices with two Abramoff tribal clients and a former staffer who went to work for Abramoff.

sovereignstar 06-01-2006 01:05 PM

gotta love generalization

chinaski 06-01-2006 01:05 PM

gotta love people who label an entire group because of the actions of one person.

chinaski 06-01-2006 01:05 PM

lol nice sov

SirFozzie 06-01-2006 01:05 PM

Yeah, they take the perks and then vote against the folks who try to bribe them (as Reid did in this case) Damn Democrats won't stay bribed, unlike Republicans.

BrianD 06-01-2006 01:06 PM

To be fair, it seems like we haven't had a political trolling attempt in a while. We were due.

Fonzie 06-01-2006 01:07 PM

The real news here is that Harry Reid was a boxer.

chinaski 06-01-2006 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fonzie
The real news here is that Harry Reid was a boxer.


hah yes, that took me by surprise.

Honolulu_Blue 06-01-2006 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD
To be fair, it seems like we haven't had a political trolling attempt in a while. We were due.


Yeah, the last I remember was a few weeks (months?) back when PSUColonel had his meltdown.

CamEdwards 06-01-2006 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fonzie
The real news here is that Harry Reid was a boxer.


Well, to be fair you could say that Horseshack and Screech were boxers as well.

Raiders Army 06-01-2006 01:21 PM

Damn, when was he a boxer? When it was bare-knuckle boxing?

Huckleberry 06-01-2006 01:24 PM

Wait, isn't the Associated Press part of the mainstream media? Why aren't they covering this up? Who didn't get the liberal bias memo?

MalcPow 06-01-2006 01:27 PM

The smoke here is that McCain was at the fight as well, and reimbursed $1400 for his seat, while Reid did not because, as he put it, it was his "home state." He defended his actions to his constituents on those grounds, and now he and his staff are backtracking because that defense does not follow within senate rules.

Blade6119 06-01-2006 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry
Wait, isn't the Associated Press part of the mainstream media? Why aren't they covering this up? Who didn't get the liberal bias memo?

ESPN.com's boxing section...say it when i was reading there

Butter 06-01-2006 01:28 PM

Gotta love former mods who need some way to vent.

Toddzilla 06-01-2006 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MalcPow
The smoke here is that McCain was at the fight as well, and reimbursed $1400 for his seat, while Reid did not because, as he put it, it was his "home state." He defended his actions to his constituents on those grounds, and now he and his staff are backtracking because that defense does not follow within senate rules.

IIRC, it is expressly *permitted* in the Senate Ethics Rules - there is an exception for gifts from governmental agencies like the Nevada Athletic Commission.

Blade6119 06-01-2006 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69
Gotta love former mods who need some way to vent.

Im happy to get in a fight over this is you want to keep being an ass...your comments speak enough about your personal character, and since you think so little of me ill be happy to come down to your level and play if you want.

SirFozzie 06-01-2006 01:34 PM

Yeah, I may have been upset that Blade was made a mod, but this is no worse then a lot of the other political threads that have gone around, constantly bring up former mod etcetera is a cheap shot. (and if I crossed that line with my first line in this post, sorry blade, I meant it more to defend you)

Blade6119 06-01-2006 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie
Yeah, I may have been upset that Blade was made a mod, but this is no worse then a lot of the other political threads that have gone around, constantly bring up former mod etcetera is a cheap shot. (and if I crossed that line with my first line in this post, sorry blade, I meant it more to defend you)

I have no problems with your comments or even the other disregarding my views. But butter made it personal, and i dont respond well to comments like that.

MalcPow 06-01-2006 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla
IIRC, it is expressly *permitted* in the Senate Ethics Rules - there is an exception for gifts from governmental agencies like the Nevada Athletic Commission.


Accepting gifts from a party that is going to be impacted by legislation you're working on, and has a strong motivation to influence you, is a no-no. It's basically the spirit of these ethics laws. I think Reid is fine legally, but he is backtracking fast from his comments earlier this week that he would continue to accept these gifts all the time (now he says he won't accept anything that might imply a conflict).

sovereignstar 06-01-2006 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119
I have no problems with your comments or even the other disregarding my views. But butter made it personal, and i dont respond well to comments like that.


You make the bed you sleep in, douchebag.

larrymcg421 06-01-2006 01:40 PM

There is no smoke. The commission is not allowed to take money for these seats. McCain insisted and they gave his money to charity.

MalcPow 06-01-2006 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421
There is no smoke. The commission is not allowed to take money for these seats. McCain insisted and they gave his money to charity.


Not to get too much into this (as I don't really feel strongly about this at all) but senators aren't allowed to accept gifts from groups that have vested interests in legislation they're working on.

Blade6119 06-01-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar
You make the bed you sleep in, douchebag.

And people want to call me the troll here...im stunned sometimes at how classless FOFC has become...

John Galt 06-01-2006 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119
And people want to call me the troll here...im stunned sometimes at how classless FOFC has become...


No offense Blade6199, but you are hardly the paragon of class.

albionmoonlight 06-01-2006 01:54 PM

Wow, this thread isn't ending well?

I thought for sure that it would when I read the title.

Color me shocked.

stevew 06-01-2006 01:55 PM

Vote Blade6119

rkmsuf 06-01-2006 01:56 PM

gotta love boxing giving fofc a black eye

Raiders Army 06-01-2006 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf
gotta love boxing giving fofc a black eye

better than an erect penis I always say...

rkmsuf 06-01-2006 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army
better than an erect penis I always say...


harry reid was often erect while boxing

stevew 06-01-2006 01:59 PM

unvote Blade8675309

Vote rkmsuf

Blade6119 06-01-2006 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by John Galt
No offense Blade6199, but you are hardly the paragon of class.

I dont claim to be, but i did not make this personal in any way. It is the colorful FOFC membership who took that step...

NoMyths 06-01-2006 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119
And people want to call me the troll here...im stunned sometimes at how classless FOFC has become...

"Gotta love Democrats" is classy?

Flasch186 06-01-2006 02:02 PM

I believe I called this one in another thread wherein I was hammered by lefties as simply pandering to the right to earn some sort of credibility. Man when that other shoe drops you gotta move quick like, cat like I say, like A cheetah!! Woo Zoom zow!! im over here now, standing in the "I was right" corner. There I go, zip, over here!!

ignore me

Blade6119 06-01-2006 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMyths
"Gotta love Democrats" is classy?

Not at all, but i didnt personally attack anyone. Like i said, im not claiming to be a pedestal of class, but im not calling you a douche and taking potshots at your personaly history

John Galt 06-01-2006 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119
I dont claim to be, but i did not make this personal in any way. It is the colorful FOFC membership who took that step...


I just think that someone shouldn't lament how "classless FOFC has become" in a thread they started titled "Gotta love Democrats." But maybe that's just me.

edit: apparently, it is not "just me" as I was a little slow to reply.

Flasch186 06-01-2006 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Galt
I just think that someone shouldn't lament how "classless FOFC has become" in a thread they started titled "Gotta love Democrats." But maybe that's just me.


coulda been me today, im awfully fast. I coulda typed it, and hid thereafter....you dont know. Its crazy the quickness Im feelin' today, like a african swallow fast.

st.cronin 06-01-2006 02:06 PM

Ah, to be alive during FOFC's golden age.

duckman 06-01-2006 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flasch186
I believe I called this one in another thread wherein I was hammered by lefties as simply pandering to the right to earn some sort of credibility. Man when that other shoe drops you gotta move quick like, cat like I say, like A cheetah!! Woo Zoom zow!! im over here now, standing in the "I was right" corner. There I go, zip, over here!!

ignore me


EDITED: Picture reported as NSFW.

Toddzilla 06-01-2006 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamEdwards
Well, to be fair you could say that Horseshack and Screech were boxers as well.

I missed this amidst all the trolling. Well played, indeed.

Toddzilla 06-01-2006 02:11 PM


rkmsuf 06-01-2006 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew
unvote Blade8675309

Vote rkmsuf


there's no unvoting in werewolf

Flasch186 06-01-2006 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman
[IMG]EDIT: Image NSFW[/IMG]


Listen troll

I would like to be able to make jokes and stuff if at all possible without having you troll about in your boat looking to stir up shit where none is necessary. Please chill the fuck out. I would like to be able to participate AND ENJOY coming here and Im sure the moderators would agree.

Thanks.

edit: making a thread NSFW is awesome to.

duckman 06-01-2006 02:13 PM


wade moore 06-01-2006 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Galt
I just think that someone shouldn't lament how "classless FOFC has become" in a thread they started titled "Gotta love Democrats." But maybe that's just me.


I thought it was pretty funny too.

rkmsuf 06-01-2006 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman


LOL

KWhit 06-01-2006 02:15 PM

I never would have guessed that this thread would end up this way.

stevew 06-01-2006 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla


That's pretty funny.

rkmsuf 06-01-2006 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew
That's pretty funny.


Resembles a Harry Reid fight.

duckman 06-01-2006 02:19 PM



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