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Antmeister 08-03-2006 03:50 PM

What did this clown do now?
 
Looks like our resident poster cheated in yet another league. I am surprised so many people agreed for him to come back. Sorry but this is not RailsFS, but our resident clown. :D

http://primetime-football-league.com...pic.php?t=2156

Antmeister 08-03-2006 04:00 PM

Ok, that was foolish. They say that they didn't know if he cheated in the PFL and that is why they are considering the reinstatement. Oops.

sovereignstar 08-03-2006 04:03 PM

Anyone that believes Justin cheated on purpose is a fucking moron.

sovereignstar 08-03-2006 04:05 PM

And anyone that is in that shithole of a league will continue to be cast in a negative light to me. How anyone could even be a part of that league with some of the characters that have remained in that league is beyond me.

Pumpy Tudors 08-03-2006 04:08 PM

omg multiplayer fof drama

sovereignstar 08-03-2006 04:12 PM

-jshipman9476: i don't feel i cheated but whatever is best for the league...i understand

-They suspected me of cheating, a claim that I am NOT going to deny.

-My goal was to get caught and then drop or get kicked out of every league except the PFL. Then I could concentrate more time to the wife and a little more time to the PFL.

---

Right.

Subby 08-03-2006 04:15 PM

heh - when I first read that I thought you meant you didn't think he cheated at all...and you were the one who uncovered it. :)

BrianD 08-03-2006 04:17 PM

Quote:

I in no way want to come off as sounding like I think Justin will cheat again

"Once a cheater always a cheater"

Nice. :D

Mustang 08-03-2006 04:44 PM

*L*

I like this line...

'on one hand, richard nixon was pardoned but on the other milli vanilli never got another chance so I'm torn'

Joe 08-03-2006 05:31 PM

someone sent this to me yesterday:
"A guy comes onto AIM a while ago using the name PFLCheaters, tells me that Justin Shipman is already back in PFL using a new screen name and an ip masker as Titans Owner Romgrnt."

Now.. this guy is in like 5 leagues so... sounds like shipman. Any way to test it?

Ryan S 08-03-2006 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George W Bush
someone sent this to me yesterday:
"A guy comes onto AIM a while ago using the name PFLCheaters, tells me that Justin Shipman is already back in PFL using a new screen name and an ip masker as Titans Owner Romgrnt."

Now.. this guy is in like 5 leagues so... sounds like shipman. Any way to test it?


I am about 99% certain that Romgrnt is Justin Shipman.

Joe 08-03-2006 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan S
I am about 99% certain that Romgrnt is Justin Shipman.


that is what my other information says as well

molson 08-03-2006 08:21 PM

It still boggles my mind that someone would cheat at a sports sim.

Fouts 08-03-2006 08:21 PM

This guy must love attention. Too bad it's all negative.

Iceman99 08-03-2006 08:39 PM

Are you guys serious that he is using that screen name? If that is true I am so done with that league...

I joined PFL before the scandal and was just happy to own the Buc's.... But I will not play around with that crap...

Fonzie 08-03-2006 08:43 PM

Someone named RomGrnt recently took over the Toronto franchise in the FOFL.

Joe 08-03-2006 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman99
Are you guys serious that he is using that screen name? If that is true I am so done with that league...

I joined PFL before the scandal and was just happy to own the Buc's.... But I will not play around with that crap...


I guess it's quittin time

jamesUMD 08-03-2006 09:41 PM

I am pretty sure he's the Cowboy's in the Wigfl but I know now to watch the contracts. It'll be sweeter to be a cheater.

NickSaban 08-03-2006 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan S
I am about 99% certain that Romgrnt is Justin Shipman.


Ya'll may or may not know, but I'm the Admin of the PFL's website. That's an interesting allegation, but as of now, I don't believe it. The IPs don't match, and aren't even close. All of Justin's other handles have IP addresses that overlap.

If I had to guess, I would say that RomGrmt's ISP resets his IP address every so often, so he has a ton of (similar) IP addresses he has posted from, and he's probably posted a couple of times from another computer, be that work or a friend's house or something. My guess is that whoever it was that IM'd TexasGM is trying to take advantage of recent posts to stir up a little controversy.

Antmeister 08-03-2006 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickSaban
Ya'll may or may not know, but I'm the Admin of the PFL's website. That's an interesting allegation, but as of now, I don't believe it. The IPs don't match, and aren't even close. All of Justin's other handles have IP addresses that overlap.

If I had to guess, I would say that RomGrmt's ISP resets his IP address every so often, so he has a ton of (similar) IP addresses he has posted from, and he's probably posted a couple of times from another computer, be that work or a friend's house or something. My guess is that whoever it was that IM'd TexasGM is trying to take advantage of recent posts to stir up a little controversy.


I believe jshipman already admitted to it according to this thread:
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=51645

Quote:

To this point, he and I have traded PMs and he maintains that he is Grant Romero. Fair enough.

We are removing him from FOFL, effective immediately.


NickSaban 08-03-2006 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antmeister
I believe jshipman already admitted to it according to this thread:
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=51645


Just caught that thread. Thanks for the heads up. I'm on it.

sovereignstar 08-03-2006 11:09 PM

Cheese dick sent an e-mail to Cringer on May 11th in hopes of getting back into the ImperialFL. Thank god our waiting list is about a half-dozen long.

Antmeister 08-04-2006 04:01 AM

Wow. What jshipman did was wrong, but isn't it a little drastic to change the name of the league because of a ridiculous cheater. Since he had joined a number of leagues under a different alias, I don't think what they are suggesting here is warranted:
http://primetime-football-league.com...pic.php?t=2164

One of the GMs is even leaving the league. Damn.

NickSaban 08-04-2006 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antmeister
Wow. What jshipman did was wrong, but isn't it a little drastic to change the name of the league because of a ridiculous cheater. Since he had joined a number of leagues under a different alias, I don't think what they are suggesting here is warranted:
http://primetime-football-league.com...pic.php?t=2164

One of the GMs is even leaving the league. Damn.


Situation in the PFL is a little different than other leagues Justin was a part of, b/c not only was he part of our league, he was its founder and original commissioner. If he truly did come back as romgrnt, than it might be better just to flush the entire FOF community of what has been referred to as a tainted PFL and start from scratch. And besides, it would be fun to have a league with 2006 player files.

KODIAKBEAR 08-04-2006 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar
And anyone that is in that shithole of a league will continue to be cast in a negative light to me. How anyone could even be a part of that league with some of the characters that have remained in that league is beyond me.


If you are talking about the PFL, then I resent the very lies that are coming out of your mouth/or terminal. You may have your opinions, but that does not make them facts for you to be calling a whole league and their owners names. "From the mouth the heart speaks" If anyones charecter should be in question it should be those who make false statements without knowing all the facts.

I respectfully request that you keep one of my leagues the PFL, if that is who you are refering to out of your mouth.


Sincerely Kodiakbear
PFL Chicago Bears

Pumpy Tudors 08-04-2006 08:01 AM

This is like the most serious dramabomb in the history of history.

rkmsuf 08-04-2006 08:03 AM

All I can envision are girly punches.

Hoya1 08-04-2006 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KODIAKBEAR
If you are talking about the PFL, then I resent the very lies that are coming out of your mouth/or terminal. You may have your opinions, but that does not make them facts for you to be calling a whole league and their owners names. "From the mouth the heart speaks" If anyones charecter should be in question it should be those who make false statements without knowing all the facts.

I respectfully request that you keep one of my leagues the PFL, if that is who you are refering to out of your mouth.


Sincerely Kodiakbear
PFL Chicago Bears


The fact that the PFL has had more "cheating" going on by its participants does put your league in a negative light. The fact that there's even a vote to let the commissioner of cheaters back into your league does nothing to shed yourselves from this.

st.cronin 08-04-2006 09:13 AM

We need a class on comma usage. Summon: Quiksand.

Antmeister 08-04-2006 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickSaban
Situation in the PFL is a little different than other leagues Justin was a part of, b/c not only was he part of our league, he was its founder and original commissioner. If he truly did come back as romgrnt, than it might be better just to flush the entire FOF community of what has been referred to as a tainted PFL and start from scratch. And besides, it would be fun to have a league with 2006 player files.


Uh wow! I haven't been keeping up with this stuff. I know of the FastFL and their issues, but I didn't read enough about the PFL. I mean I knew about the jshipman incident, but I didn't realize he was the founder. I also didn't realize that there was a history of having some cheaters in the league (well according to the other posts I am reading here). Damn.

QuikSand 08-04-2006 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin
We need a class on comma usage. Summon: Quiksand.


Lost cause.

Honolulu_Blue 08-04-2006 09:35 AM

I have no idea what's going on.

Subby 08-04-2006 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KODIAKBEAR
If you are talking about the PFL, then I resent the very lies that are coming out of your mouth/or terminal. You may have your opinions, but that does not make them facts for you to be calling a whole league and their owners names. "From the mouth the heart speaks" If anyones charecter should be in question it should be those who make false statements without knowing all the facts.

I respectfully request that you keep one of my leagues the PFL, if that is who you are refering to out of your mouth.

Sincerely Kodiakbear
PFL Chicago Bears

If you are going to post here more, then I think this whole drama is worth it.

Bee 08-04-2006 09:43 AM

I'm confused. Why did sovereignstar have Kodiakbear's league in his mouth? Also, does that make sovereignstar gay?

edit: Not that there's anything wrong with that...

VPI97 08-04-2006 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee
I'm confused. Why did sovereignstar have Kodiakbear's league in his mouth?

He lost a bet with Suicane.

Quote:

Also, does that make sovereignstar gay?
Without question.

Honolulu_Blue 08-04-2006 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee
I'm confused. Why did sovereignstar have Kodiakbear's league in his mouth? Also, does that make sovereignstar gay?

edit: Not that there's anything wrong with that...


He probably mistook it for Suicane's leauge. And, yes, I think it might. It makes him "bi" at the very least.

Honolulu_Blue 08-04-2006 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VPI97
He lost a bet with Suicane.


Without question.


Great minds, my friend. . . Great minds.

Honolulu_Blue 08-04-2006 09:48 AM

Dola

1...

2...

3...

JINX!

Anytime you make a post, you owe me a quarter until I release you from this jinx.

EagleFan 08-04-2006 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson
It still boggles my mind that someone would cheat at a sports sim.


Originally it boggled my mind too, until I started running online leagues a few years back. I had to stop because I could no longer trust people online. I did get pretty good at sniffing out the serious ones, but that just made it more disturbing to me as there always seemed to be someone in the league who was cheating and that was ruining the integrity of the league as a whole (especially when trying a historical league in OOTP and teams were tanking it in years when there were big name players coming out the next year).

QuikSand 08-04-2006 09:58 AM

If anyone could grab an entire league with his mouth, you'd think it would be the bear guy. *shurg*

Fidatelo 08-04-2006 11:31 AM

So what is the FOFC username of this Justin guy? I just want to know who to call a douchebag next time he posts.

Pumpy Tudors 08-04-2006 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fidatelo
So what is the FOFC username of this Justin guy? I just want to know who to call a douchebag next time he posts.

I've heard that it starts with "P" and ends with "umpy Tudors."

Ksyrup 08-04-2006 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors
I've heard that it starts with "P" and ends with "umpy Tudors."


This would have been much more entertaining coming from someone other than you.

Eaglesfan27 08-04-2006 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors
I've heard that it starts with "P" and ends with "umpy Tudors."



:D

Pumpy Tudors 08-04-2006 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup
This would have been much more entertaining coming from someone other than you.

I like to nip that shit in the bud.

cartman 08-04-2006 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup
This would have been much more entertaining coming from someone other than you.


I've heard that it starts with "P" and ends with "umpy Tudors."

sovereignstar 08-04-2006 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KODIAKBEAR
If you are talking about the PFL, then I resent the very lies that are coming out of your mouth/or terminal. You may have your opinions, but that does not make them facts for you to be calling a whole league and their owners names. "From the mouth the heart speaks" If anyones charecter should be in question it should be those who make false statements without knowing all the facts.

I respectfully request that you keep one of my leagues the PFL, if that is who you are refering to out of your mouth.


Sincerely Kodiakbear
PFL Chicago Bears


That's right Cochise, go eat some more fried bread.

Ksyrup 08-04-2006 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman
I've heard that it starts with "P" and ends with "umpy Tudors."


OK, maybe I was wrong.

gottimd 08-04-2006 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors
I've heard that it starts with "P" and ends with "umpy Tudors."


Pete Grumpy Tudors?

CraigSca 08-04-2006 11:50 AM

Speaking of leagues...which was the one that was going to have a sim every 7 minutes? If they are intact, should they be in season 2,067 by now?

Also - rongrmt is in the NFLFO as the Tampa Bay GM. I'm going to give the Commish time to do something about this -- I hope he does the right thing.


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