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HomerSimpson 09-02-2006 12:32 AM

San Diego: Mentors, we don't need no stinken Mentors!
 
I agreed with San Diego's decision to give the starting job to Rivers, but I didn't think they would also fire every otherQB on their roster with any NFL experience. Kind of like playing russian roulette with a loaded semi-automatic handgun......Bang your dead, Bang your dead, Bang your dead.


What idiot out there would even think of beginning a season with a starting QB that has never started an NFL game, a backup QB that has never thrown an NFL pass, and a 3rd string QB that has never played in an NFL game?


No experience required?

Poli 09-02-2006 12:40 AM

Marty S. He's primed for retirement, anyways. :)

Raiders Army 09-02-2006 06:06 AM

And people were laughing when the Raiders snagged Jeff George. :)

DanGarion 09-02-2006 10:12 AM

Where is Mark Rypien, when you need him?

kcchief19 09-02-2006 10:19 AM

If Rivers goes down, what is the upside of AJ Feeley? None. The season is over. So why not try a different barrell?

I don't know that there are serviceable veteran quarterbacks available that really make sense -- hence Oakland Jeff George. And I think NFL teams are finally learning that an unproven youngster with upside makes more sense than a retread with no upside. Think Tom Brady, Jake Delhomme and Mark Bulger, not A.J. Feeley, Gus Frerotte and any Huard.

General Mike 09-02-2006 12:20 PM

I agree. Nobody has a backup QB worth a damn anymore. It's better to just throw the youngster in the mix.

Abe Sargent 09-02-2006 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Mike (Post 1236265)
I agree. Nobody has a backup QB worth a damn anymore. It's better to just throw the youngster in the mix.


Nobody? Untrue. Take a look at backup QBs like David Garrard, backup QB for the Jags for years now.

General Mike 09-02-2006 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anxiety (Post 1236282)
Nobody? Untrue. Take a look at backup QBs like David Garrard, backup QB for the Jags for years now.


I agree, Garrard is good, and I should have mentioned him, but who else is a good backup? Jeff Garcia? Trent Dilfer?

Vince 09-02-2006 01:15 PM

Everret Glenn.

Maple Leafs 09-02-2006 01:16 PM

Rumor is they'll be getting Volek.

Glengoyne 09-02-2006 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1236334)
Rumor is they'll be getting Volek.


Now that would be interesting.

sterlingice 09-03-2006 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Mike (Post 1236328)
I agree, Garrard is good, and I should have mentioned him, but who else is a good backup? Jeff Garcia? Trent Dilfer?


Well, that's the thing. If they were good enough to start, they would be starting. You have to have a different standard for a backup QB- someone who is good enough that if the rest of your team is firing on all cylinders, he won't lose you the game.

So, by that token, there are a few decent backups around the league. Whoever isn't starting in Chicago isn't a bad backup- Grossman with potential, Griese as a starter for quite a few years. Garcia and Dilfer who you mentioned join others like Collins and Ferotte who were starters for quite a few years elsewhere. Boller was crap as a starter but not bad as a backup with the lower standards.

SI

Easy Mac 09-03-2006 03:16 PM

I'm still not sure why people say grossman has potential. what has he shown in 8 games?


Code:

Year  TM |  G |  Comp  Att  PCT    YD  Y/A  TD INT |  Att  Yards  TD |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
 | 2003 chi |  3 |    38    72  52.8  437  6.1  2  1 |    3    -1  0 |
| 2004 chi |  3 |    47    84  56.0  607  7.2  1  3 |    11    48  1 |
| 2005 chi |  2 |    20    39  51.3  259  6.6  1  2 |    0    0  0 |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
|  TOTAL  |  8 |  105  195  53.8  1303  6.7  4  6 |    14    47  1


JonInMiddleGA 09-03-2006 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac (Post 1236955)
what has he shown in 8 games?


A better completion percentage than Reggie Ball.

stevew 09-03-2006 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac (Post 1236955)
I'm still not sure why people say grossman has potential. what has he shown in 8 games?



That he's extremely injury prone. :cool:

watravaler 09-03-2006 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac (Post 1236955)
I'm still not sure why people say grossman has potential. what has he shown in 8 games?


Code:

Year  TM |  G |  Comp  Att  PCT    YD  Y/A  TD INT |  Att  Yards  TD |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
 | 2003 chi |  3 |    38    72  52.8  437  6.1  2  1 |    3    -1  0 |
| 2004 chi |  3 |    47    84  56.0  607  7.2  1  3 |    11    48  1 |
| 2005 chi |  2 |    20    39  51.3  259  6.6  1  2 |    0    0  0 |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
|  TOTAL  |  8 |  105  195  53.8  1303  6.7  4  6 |    14    47  1




You know that 8 games is a tiny sample size. He will be fine this year.

stevew 09-03-2006 03:52 PM

Someone's team should sign Tommy Maddox. He's still out there. ;)

Izulde 09-03-2006 04:12 PM

I think Joey Harrington makes a decent backup QB now that he's out of Detroit.

sterlingice 09-03-2006 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac (Post 1236955)
I'm still not sure why people say grossman has potential. what has he shown in 8 games?


(To be fair, I've never really bought into Grossman out of college but others seem to think differently. That said, 8 games is too small of a sample size)

SI

Buccaneer 09-03-2006 05:27 PM

It appears they also need another OLB with Foley being shot. Why would this get major Breaking News status?


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